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		By: Francis Khoury		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Khoury]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2021 15:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399187&quot;&gt;Peridot&lt;/a&gt;.

I had the same realizations as a devout Catholic.  I kept meeting virtuous people who had different faith or no faith, and the claims I heard (and made) of us having a  corner on that market didn&#039;t hold up to reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399187">Peridot</a>.</p>
<p>I had the same realizations as a devout Catholic.  I kept meeting virtuous people who had different faith or no faith, and the claims I heard (and made) of us having a  corner on that market didn&#8217;t hold up to reality.</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399199&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

And THEN you&#039;d have to buy more because there was an error on one or more pages...perhaps a misplaced ( ) ; , &quot;&quot; + or messpelled wurd?   

Too funny!]]></description>
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<p>And THEN you&#8217;d have to buy more because there was an error on one or more pages&#8230;perhaps a misplaced ( ) ; , &#8220;&#8221; + or messpelled wurd?   </p>
<p>Too funny!</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2021 01:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399208&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Whatever it&#039;s called, recovery from scn is a long, sobering experience.  After 40 years, I still get blindsided by something or the other, like lately I&#039;m surprised how little empathy I&#039;m feeling for anyone who suffers a setback. I used to be 180-degree reversed in that department; trained as a kid to be empathetic and understanding.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399208">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Whatever it&#8217;s called, recovery from scn is a long, sobering experience.  After 40 years, I still get blindsided by something or the other, like lately I&#8217;m surprised how little empathy I&#8217;m feeling for anyone who suffers a setback. I used to be 180-degree reversed in that department; trained as a kid to be empathetic and understanding.</p>
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		By: Glenn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2021 00:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399409&quot;&gt;Balletlady&lt;/a&gt;.

Balletlady,

Thank you for all that you just wrote.  I truly hope your husband&#039;s kids re-connect sometime soon.  My mom kept her heart and door open and welcomed me back eventually.  

Best wishes to you and family.  

Glenn]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399409">Balletlady</a>.</p>
<p>Balletlady,</p>
<p>Thank you for all that you just wrote.  I truly hope your husband&#8217;s kids re-connect sometime soon.  My mom kept her heart and door open and welcomed me back eventually.  </p>
<p>Best wishes to you and family.  </p>
<p>Glenn</p>
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		By: Jeff Hawkins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Hawkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2021 20:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eleven books in a week is ridiculously small.  As many of you know, when I was in Scientology, I ran the national Dianetics books campaign in the 1980s. At its peak, that campaign was selling over 30,000 books a week out of major bookstores. Now you cannot find a single copy in most bookstores, and they have ceased all advertising. The reason I have spent to much time and energy exposing Scientology is to make up for selling so many books for Scientology. Hopefully someday this woman will also wake up and regret selling these books. Scientology doesn&#039;t help anyone - Clears and OTs have all the same problems that &quot;raw public&quot; have. And they do not have any &quot;OT abilities&quot; above what the &quot;raw public&quot; have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eleven books in a week is ridiculously small.  As many of you know, when I was in Scientology, I ran the national Dianetics books campaign in the 1980s. At its peak, that campaign was selling over 30,000 books a week out of major bookstores. Now you cannot find a single copy in most bookstores, and they have ceased all advertising. The reason I have spent to much time and energy exposing Scientology is to make up for selling so many books for Scientology. Hopefully someday this woman will also wake up and regret selling these books. Scientology doesn&#8217;t help anyone &#8211; Clears and OTs have all the same problems that &#8220;raw public&#8221; have. And they do not have any &#8220;OT abilities&#8221; above what the &#8220;raw public&#8221; have.</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Balletlady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2021 19:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399397&quot;&gt;Glenn&lt;/a&gt;.

Difficult &#038; costly lesson at time. I learned pretty quickly NOT to get involved with certain religions as something inside said &quot;If it sounds too good to be true, it&#039;s probably NOT true&quot;...

I had high school friends join the Hare Krishna, Moonies, Children of God etc...they gave up their parents, siblings, life...all &quot;too do good&quot;....or so they thought. Sadly down the road their entire WORLD collapsed before they realized what was going on . They were used, abused, beaten, taken advantage of, went hungry, cold, poor.  

One friend committed suicide as he just couldn&#039;t deal with the TRUTH of what that religion was all about. For some, their family willingly took them back, there were a few whose parents, siblings, friends rejected them as THEY had done to those same people. 

For me it was helping people whom I thought I could trust.  I am a pretty good judge of character, but WOLVES in SHEEP&#039;S clothing.....as you said....a lesson learned!

I&#039;ve met so many NICE people here &#038; I do wish everyone well &#038; healthy &#038; happy.  My husband &#038; family keep eyes opened for any COS stories &#038; updates.  Mike is a GEM for doing this. 

He&#039;s still hurting because of his &quot;disassociation from his older now adult children&quot;......nothing he can do about it...HIS heart &#038; door remain open &#038; loving &#038; forgiving.  Maybe ONE day, but I&#039;m not holding my breathe.....You cannot change someone who refuses help or to see the truth behind it all.

Have a Great week Glenn!  Our best wishes to you &#038; your family!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399397">Glenn</a>.</p>
<p>Difficult &amp; costly lesson at time. I learned pretty quickly NOT to get involved with certain religions as something inside said &#8220;If it sounds too good to be true, it&#8217;s probably NOT true&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I had high school friends join the Hare Krishna, Moonies, Children of God etc&#8230;they gave up their parents, siblings, life&#8230;all &#8220;too do good&#8221;&#8230;.or so they thought. Sadly down the road their entire WORLD collapsed before they realized what was going on . They were used, abused, beaten, taken advantage of, went hungry, cold, poor.  </p>
<p>One friend committed suicide as he just couldn&#8217;t deal with the TRUTH of what that religion was all about. For some, their family willingly took them back, there were a few whose parents, siblings, friends rejected them as THEY had done to those same people. </p>
<p>For me it was helping people whom I thought I could trust.  I am a pretty good judge of character, but WOLVES in SHEEP&#8217;S clothing&#8230;..as you said&#8230;.a lesson learned!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve met so many NICE people here &amp; I do wish everyone well &amp; healthy &amp; happy.  My husband &amp; family keep eyes opened for any COS stories &amp; updates.  Mike is a GEM for doing this. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s still hurting because of his &#8220;disassociation from his older now adult children&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;nothing he can do about it&#8230;HIS heart &amp; door remain open &amp; loving &amp; forgiving.  Maybe ONE day, but I&#8217;m not holding my breathe&#8230;..You cannot change someone who refuses help or to see the truth behind it all.</p>
<p>Have a Great week Glenn!  Our best wishes to you &amp; your family!</p>
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		By: Glenn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399382&quot;&gt;Balletlady&lt;/a&gt;.

Balletlady,

Yes, you did.  VWD to you and many, many thanks as well.  

Even before I found scientology I&#039;d learned I was a good person but also learned not to permit that or my urge to help others be shattered by anyone.  Tough lesson but worth it.  

On finding scientology my urge to help was &quot;excited&quot; as I felt I found something that actually worked and could be used to help others.  But sadly in the subsequent years it became clear that no results would come from services taken. There seemed to be no real effort to produce them.  And the primary effort of taking my money had become very clear.  So, once again I had to wise up, take full responsibility for all the losses I&#039;d allowed and cut the blood letting by walking away forever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399382">Balletlady</a>.</p>
<p>Balletlady,</p>
<p>Yes, you did.  VWD to you and many, many thanks as well.  </p>
<p>Even before I found scientology I&#8217;d learned I was a good person but also learned not to permit that or my urge to help others be shattered by anyone.  Tough lesson but worth it.  </p>
<p>On finding scientology my urge to help was &#8220;excited&#8221; as I felt I found something that actually worked and could be used to help others.  But sadly in the subsequent years it became clear that no results would come from services taken. There seemed to be no real effort to produce them.  And the primary effort of taking my money had become very clear.  So, once again I had to wise up, take full responsibility for all the losses I&#8217;d allowed and cut the blood letting by walking away forever.</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Balletlady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2021 13:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399312&quot;&gt;Glenn&lt;/a&gt;.

Glenn, you are so welcome!  If I can bring a smile, a laugh, a small chuckle to anyone&#039;s face, heart or soul....YOU&#039;VE made MY day.

After carrying the remnants of the abuse &#038; heavy burden of even guilt for  &quot;ever becoming involved with COS&quot; YOU ALL deserve to free yourselves &#038; think positively.

Always remember Glenn.....GOOD PEOPLE NEVER SEE THE BAD IN OTHERS.....we get taken advantage of because we have caring hearts.  We always try our best to help others &#038; to &quot;save the world&quot;  &#038; make it better for others. 

We FAIL to see that others are MORE than willingly to harm us or others to meet their OWN needs. We can &#038; DO get hurt &#038; sometimes feel shame.

For ME, I&#039;d rather be the NICE person...&#038;NOT the DM or TC&#039;s of the world.  Keep smiling my friend, no one has control of you now!  Take care!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399312">Glenn</a>.</p>
<p>Glenn, you are so welcome!  If I can bring a smile, a laugh, a small chuckle to anyone&#8217;s face, heart or soul&#8230;.YOU&#8217;VE made MY day.</p>
<p>After carrying the remnants of the abuse &amp; heavy burden of even guilt for  &#8220;ever becoming involved with COS&#8221; YOU ALL deserve to free yourselves &amp; think positively.</p>
<p>Always remember Glenn&#8230;..GOOD PEOPLE NEVER SEE THE BAD IN OTHERS&#8230;..we get taken advantage of because we have caring hearts.  We always try our best to help others &amp; to &#8220;save the world&#8221;  &amp; make it better for others. </p>
<p>We FAIL to see that others are MORE than willingly to harm us or others to meet their OWN needs. We can &amp; DO get hurt &amp; sometimes feel shame.</p>
<p>For ME, I&#8217;d rather be the NICE person&#8230;&amp;NOT the DM or TC&#8217;s of the world.  Keep smiling my friend, no one has control of you now!  Take care!</p>
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		By: Glenn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399227&quot;&gt;Balletlady&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, Balletlady.  

I wish I could show you the beamingly wide smile you just brought to my face!  Wonderful indeed.  Thanks a bunch.]]></description>
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<p>Oh, Balletlady.  </p>
<p>I wish I could show you the beamingly wide smile you just brought to my face!  Wonderful indeed.  Thanks a bunch.</p>
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		By: Zola		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2021 13:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399240&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard, if you are like most ex&#039;s, you probably got into scientology with the best of intentions to help yourself and others. Sounds like you never bought into the degradation of non-scientologists. Happy to hear that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/raw-meat-its-a-real-homor/#comment-399240">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Richard, if you are like most ex&#8217;s, you probably got into scientology with the best of intentions to help yourself and others. Sounds like you never bought into the degradation of non-scientologists. Happy to hear that.</p>
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