Hi Terra Cognita, Thank you so very much for your support.I like your vibe too.In fact you are on my heroes list.XXOO

Thank you. I was wondering if you had had the first hand experience of or knowledge of MAA’s taking confidential information from protected non-sec check sessions and publishing it in a declare or comm ev or some such thing.

I would not put it past them. But… I’ve not seen it yet myself, hence, I ask.

I read something here or on Marty’s blog from a trained C/S who told of being pushed and caving to c/sing for the reg. C/Sing extra sec check questions/auditing actions just to get the intensive comp and the re-sign before 2:00. C/Sing for extra steps just to use ints paid for. This is the sort of nightmare thing one worried about as a PC, but could not believe if one was to go forward.

Back in the day I recall things discussed at product conference that had no business out side of a pc folder. I recall ridicule, insensitiveness, and utter disregard of privacy. I’m sure it goes on on to this day on many levels.

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and congrats on getting out and beginning the long divorce proceedings. I’m newly UTR and out myself and it’s very freeing and magical and scary and things. Pretty wild, eh? Someday I’d like to get together in person with the Outs from my old gang. My wish now is for everyone I ever loved to be out.

*phew.

🙂

(and I know what you mean about the calls – I’m still having conversations with various people.) (I’m having conversations, I”m NOT “in comm”. 🙂 🙂 🙂

Ann B: I am not surprised. Little is sacred inside the church anymore.

I like your vibe, Ann.

Secretfornow: Hmm? For sure, auditors, C/S’s, DofP’s, and MAA’s all read what’s in these folders and talk among themselves. I suspect things get leaked.
Morally speaking, though, everything should be held in the strictest confidence: both from PC folders and ethics folders, alike. I hate that confessionals intended to heal have turned into sec-checking orgies intended to mine dirt to be used against one. Anything discussed in Div 4 or Div 1 between staff and public should be confidential. Period.
Seemingly benign “interviews,” too, have become a way of life inside the church. Supervisors, DofT’s–anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of the e-meter–conduct these when students begin to ask probing questions.
They get away with maintaining confidentiality by beginning each “session” with “I’m not auditing you.” Nothing is sacred anymore.
As for “acceptable truth,” I feel so much freer now that I’ve divorced myself from the church’s perverted mindset. An advanced org reg called me just the other day to get me back on the bridge. I lied my ass off, and not only felt perfectly fine, but felt proud! She wouldn’t have been able to “have” the truth, anyway.

Eileen,

You took me entirely out of context.

Where should that fall on the Hubbard chart of human evaluation, in regards to handling data?

Dio

WhatWall, give some RECENT examples of US soldiers waging war “outside” of the US Constitution (cite clause violating). I know of one example in the last 16 years that applies somewhat broadly but, no more.

Bingo Nickname.

Which are …? A reactive mind, perhaps?

And you get people who do not want to look at that. Socrates spoke of it, Freud wrote extensively about it, Hubbard went deeper into the actual mechanics of a being, and deciphered it, yet you get people who do not want to look at it (e.g. a U.S. Executive who wanted to try to shut a real solution down because it was “presumptively dangerous,” sort of like Jesus was). Or, on the optimistic side, you get people who know it’s there, but are waiting for this to sort itself out, and are understandably confused about the lack or organization, which in turn was disorganized by “the real issues” which were, as always, a personal knife fight of words and intentions. Isn’t responsibility what we are trying to address?

If someone reads this, I will a) get ignored, or b) get slammed again with some negative assertion.

The really funny thing is, that if you think in terms of an admin scale, and you ask anyone from any walk of life what they want as an ideal scene for the world, you get things like “peace, happiness, prosperity,” and variations thereof. Maybe you have to dig a little to unravel the false purposes, but even the evil man wants to improve his Conditions, he just donno how. Upper strata will talk in terms of “We know what we want, the question is about how to achieve it.” You get lower strata who will start with being in a position of a tyrant lording everything over all – and you have to debug that and handle the excuses and justifiers such as “but they won’t let me advance, it’s all rigged by criminals.”

For sure, the militaries of the world make mistakes (blunders). “The Charge of the Light Brigade” comes to mind. Media is guilty of more mistakes than the military. The “pure propaganda” came from Nazi’s and Communists, not the U.S..

Hi all.Ann I type one thing and it comes up another word…Nude fissures should be new cracks in the cult that widen by the second….Although all SO running around with no uniforms on is pretty funny to me!! XO Ann B.

Hi alcoboy, Like your style!XO