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		By: Skyler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 12:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366672&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

I am left wondering how much money they could really make by offering people an &quot;escape clause&quot; from this scam for $800 instead of people wasting their money by spending $800 on this stuff that will almost certainly be used for kindling or firewood of some kind.

If they have enuff members, I wonder if they would rake in more money by offering all current members to get out of the cult for a one time payment of $800?

I also wonder if the Aftermath Foundation could negotiate an escape or an &quot;OUT&quot; for existing member for one low flat rate fee? I wonder if the Rat would prefer to take the cash payment and let people out with no retaliation. Would that be worth $800 to him? At some point, as the membership tumbles down and further down, surely he would be willing to let people out for a one-time payment? That might just be a way to put an end this cult for once and for all. It just might save a whole bunch of people a whole lot of aggravation. After all, he must know that he will not be getting another penny from a great many people and he just might be willing to take that deal?

I am sorry if this sounds like a kind of heresy. But I&#039;m guessing that at some future time, it just may be a good way to end this cult once and for all?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366672">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>I am left wondering how much money they could really make by offering people an &#8220;escape clause&#8221; from this scam for $800 instead of people wasting their money by spending $800 on this stuff that will almost certainly be used for kindling or firewood of some kind.</p>
<p>If they have enuff members, I wonder if they would rake in more money by offering all current members to get out of the cult for a one time payment of $800?</p>
<p>I also wonder if the Aftermath Foundation could negotiate an escape or an &#8220;OUT&#8221; for existing member for one low flat rate fee? I wonder if the Rat would prefer to take the cash payment and let people out with no retaliation. Would that be worth $800 to him? At some point, as the membership tumbles down and further down, surely he would be willing to let people out for a one-time payment? That might just be a way to put an end this cult for once and for all. It just might save a whole bunch of people a whole lot of aggravation. After all, he must know that he will not be getting another penny from a great many people and he just might be willing to take that deal?</p>
<p>I am sorry if this sounds like a kind of heresy. But I&#8217;m guessing that at some future time, it just may be a good way to end this cult once and for all?</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2020 04:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366149&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Skyler. The original magazines were read by an intrepid crew and have since been thoroughly debunked,  though the verb &quot;Shermanized&quot; and noun &quot;Shermanator&quot; remain. His prose *could* be successfully entered in the Bulwer Lytton Fiction Contest, which looks for worse than the original purple prose which began:&quot;It was a dark and stormy night&quot;. I wonder how many thesauruses mr. Sherman destroyed by endlessly thumbing through them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366149">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>Skyler. The original magazines were read by an intrepid crew and have since been thoroughly debunked,  though the verb &#8220;Shermanized&#8221; and noun &#8220;Shermanator&#8221; remain. His prose *could* be successfully entered in the Bulwer Lytton Fiction Contest, which looks for worse than the original purple prose which began:&#8221;It was a dark and stormy night&#8221;. I wonder how many thesauruses mr. Sherman destroyed by endlessly thumbing through them.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2020 04:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366165&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

PeaceMaker, all those years were summed as Ron talked at ONE dinner, one evening of tall tales amongst a group of writers.]]></description>
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<p>PeaceMaker, all those years were summed as Ron talked at ONE dinner, one evening of tall tales amongst a group of writers.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2020 04:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366240&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aquamarine observed:
&quot;The upside is at least the cult didn’t get it.&quot;

Good one. maybe the Twit will run out of his swill, get sober for a second, and RUN to bulgravia.... ;-)]]></description>
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<p>Aquamarine observed:<br />
&#8220;The upside is at least the cult didn’t get it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good one. maybe the Twit will run out of his swill, get sober for a second, and RUN to bulgravia&#8230;. 😉</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2020 04:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366343&quot;&gt;ISNOINews&lt;/a&gt;.

ISNOINews, IF the politicians notice $360 million to scn and a paltry $6 mil to  tRUMP, they&#039;ll just peg her as a loon<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />.

A few  more days (or months) and this year&#039;s circus is over. Good riddance. 
Any way it goes, I expect to again see &quot;#NotMyPresident&quot; popping up its ugly head even worse than last time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366343">ISNOINews</a>.</p>
<p>ISNOINews, IF the politicians notice $360 million to scn and a paltry $6 mil to  tRUMP, they&#8217;ll just peg her as a loon™.</p>
<p>A few  more days (or months) and this year&#8217;s circus is over. Good riddance.<br />
Any way it goes, I expect to again see &#8220;#NotMyPresident&#8221; popping up its ugly head even worse than last time.</p>
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		By: Kronomex		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kronomex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2020 07:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366181&quot;&gt;lkjlkj&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for mentioning Mr. Foote because it reminded me that I still need to get the third volume of the trilogy..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366181">lkjlkj</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for mentioning Mr. Foote because it reminded me that I still need to get the third volume of the trilogy..</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 09:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366276&quot;&gt;Linear13&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Don&#039;t use Google and don&#039;t use Goggles!

If you use Goggles, you may discover some tiny print that says no matter how you play this game, you always lose. That is the true nature of this scum-sucking cult!

Lousy bunch of fucking crooks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366276">Linear13</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t use Google and don&#8217;t use Goggles!</p>
<p>If you use Goggles, you may discover some tiny print that says no matter how you play this game, you always lose. That is the true nature of this scum-sucking cult!</p>
<p>Lousy bunch of fucking crooks!</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 17:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366192&quot;&gt;Scribe&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with Scribe on this.]]></description>
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<p>I agree with Scribe on this.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 17:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366193&quot;&gt;Scribe&lt;/a&gt;.

And I believe him!]]></description>
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<p>And I believe him!</p>
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		By: ISNOINews		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366216&quot;&gt;Phillip&lt;/a&gt;.

No, I am not &quot;going to give it a rest&quot; for the following reasons.

First, the argument that a Scientologist billionaire giving almost $6 million to a presidential candidate is equivalent to whether she spends her money on Charman or White Cloud is risible. Such donations are clearly relevant to the the subject of Scientology, and particularly the issue of whether Scientology is attempting to safe-point President Trump and the Republican party.

Second, my point is neither anti-Trump nor pro-Trump. I would post precisely the same thing if the contributions had been made to the Biden campaign.

I believe it is significant when a Scientologist is politically active. I believe it is far more significant when a Scientologist billionaire is politically active.

The importance of these donations is not just how much is donated, but also what they portend for the future.

Republicans could reasonably think, &quot;If between them the Duggans have already donated almost $6 million to Trump, and the Duggan family donated $360 million to Scientology, how much might they donate to our candidates in the future?&quot;

Will any Republican in Washington take on or antagonize Scientology if it means pissing off the Duggans and causing them to stop making political contributions to Republicans? 

And again, I would ask precisely the same question if the contributions had been made to the Biden campaign. My concern is non-partisan. My concern is solely about the political influence of Scientology generally, regardless of party. For example, I furiously tweeted and posted the story (including here) about Biden VP hopeful Karen Bass having spoken at the Inglewood Org opening and praising Scientology front-groups six months before the story &quot;broke&quot; on the Daily Caller.

Third, as for the significance of her donations, Politico reports that when Trish Duggan had donated &quot;only&quot; $2 million, she was already the 74th biggest donor to federal outside money organizations (e.g., political action committees). See: 

https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors?cycle=2020&#038;view=om 

That is not insignificant. Now at $5 million, she could be tied for #33 on the list.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ron-the-epic-saga-of-bs/#comment-366216">Phillip</a>.</p>
<p>No, I am not &#8220;going to give it a rest&#8221; for the following reasons.</p>
<p>First, the argument that a Scientologist billionaire giving almost $6 million to a presidential candidate is equivalent to whether she spends her money on Charman or White Cloud is risible. Such donations are clearly relevant to the the subject of Scientology, and particularly the issue of whether Scientology is attempting to safe-point President Trump and the Republican party.</p>
<p>Second, my point is neither anti-Trump nor pro-Trump. I would post precisely the same thing if the contributions had been made to the Biden campaign.</p>
<p>I believe it is significant when a Scientologist is politically active. I believe it is far more significant when a Scientologist billionaire is politically active.</p>
<p>The importance of these donations is not just how much is donated, but also what they portend for the future.</p>
<p>Republicans could reasonably think, &#8220;If between them the Duggans have already donated almost $6 million to Trump, and the Duggan family donated $360 million to Scientology, how much might they donate to our candidates in the future?&#8221;</p>
<p>Will any Republican in Washington take on or antagonize Scientology if it means pissing off the Duggans and causing them to stop making political contributions to Republicans? </p>
<p>And again, I would ask precisely the same question if the contributions had been made to the Biden campaign. My concern is non-partisan. My concern is solely about the political influence of Scientology generally, regardless of party. For example, I furiously tweeted and posted the story (including here) about Biden VP hopeful Karen Bass having spoken at the Inglewood Org opening and praising Scientology front-groups six months before the story &#8220;broke&#8221; on the Daily Caller.</p>
<p>Third, as for the significance of her donations, Politico reports that when Trish Duggan had donated &#8220;only&#8221; $2 million, she was already the 74th biggest donor to federal outside money organizations (e.g., political action committees). See: </p>
<p><a href="https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors?cycle=2020&#038;view=om" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors?cycle=2020&#038;view=om</a> </p>
<p>That is not insignificant. Now at $5 million, she could be tied for #33 on the list.</p>
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