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		By: Ex-Cope Officer		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-227737</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 14:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226723&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry Mike, I should have said I was referring your own cognition on completing your version of Solo Nots, that it was &quot;all imagination&quot;.

Sorry for any confusion caused :))))))]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226723">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry Mike, I should have said I was referring your own cognition on completing your version of Solo Nots, that it was &#8220;all imagination&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sorry for any confusion caused :))))))</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226723</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2018 18:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226688&quot;&gt;Ex-Cope Officer&lt;/a&gt;.

Huh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226688">Ex-Cope Officer</a>.</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
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		By: Ex-Cope Officer		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226688</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ex-Cope Officer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2018 14:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225809&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

As I recall according to Mike &quot;its all imagination anyway&quot;.. But then he does foist his own case off all the time its hilarious reading. hehe!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225809">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>As I recall according to Mike &#8220;its all imagination anyway&#8221;.. But then he does foist his own case off all the time its hilarious reading. hehe!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226209</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2018 18:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225866&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for your reply, Foolproof.   Starting from the bottom of your comment:

I&#039;m swimming in MUs on the Basics.  I freely admit that. Whole track stuff.  I&#039;m not OT, not even Clear. The Basics is a long course, all theory, no practical.  Not even starrates.  Its all just reading and listiening to tapes. Many many tapes.  I&#039;d already read al the basics BOOKS.  The courses include many hours of tapes including the PDCs, the Factors. I like clearing words.  I loved KTL.  I have an ethic about reading and not going beyond misunderstood words.  So, I was pissed.  Here I had to go thru all this theory, and clear all these words which were part of material I wouldn&#039;t be using yet, material that I&#039;d be getting on the proper gradient and with starrates and clay demos and other practical drilling in concert with doing my Levels.  A waste of my time, and not helpful to me AND out-KSW (too long a runway).  The Basics are also mandated for NEW Scientologists before progressing onto anything else.  I disagreed.  So, yeah, Foolproof, I had MUs and they leaped off the page.  I know they&#039;re there.  Make of that what you will.

Next, I know you&#039;re not auditing us and I know that you&#039;re also attacked vciously by some here and I know that in an org an auditor is protected by HCO , that this sort of thing is kept off their lines. 

Many of the people on this blog DO have a &quot;button&quot; on help when it comes to Scientology. Many of the people on this blog associate Scientology NOT with help, but with extreme grief, loss and PAIN.
For such people Scientology is a PAIN SOURCE.  If not an engram, then part of a huge secondary or at least a powerful lock.

You don&#039;t look from their viewpoints Foolproof.  Their experiences OBVOUSLY differed from yours. You really don&#039;t know why but WHY it differed is not important at the outset.  It differed.  Get that.  But you CANNOT seem to get that.   You really don&#039;t know why, and yet you evalutate that it has to be what YOU think it is,  And you TELL them what YOU think it is, in a at best superior, condescending tone and at worst with outright insults.

Sure they insult you but you&#039;re an auditor and as such should be able to handle ANYTHING that&#039;s verbally thrown at you.  

You defend the tech and yet deny the abuses and character failings of the Founder.  Why?  Why not just admit these character failings and abuses?  The tech is the tech and if it works it works and nothing can make that be any different.  Yet you&#039;re defensive and evasive when put on the spot about your take on the things LRH did that were reprehensible and at times downright cruel and destructive. 

 Why not just admit these things, Foolproof?  The proof is so glaring, so out there and in-your-face that to deny them is absurd and unworthy of you.

The tech is the tech, LRH was LRH, you know?  What&#039;s the big deal?

And of course, NO ONE disagrees about Miscavige being a psychopath.  We&#039;re ALL solid on that, however else we may agree or disagree.

Oh, and last but not least, PLEASE don&#039;t feel chastened or chastised, Foolproof.  Good heavens, THAT would be the LAST thing any of us would ever want :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225866">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply, Foolproof.   Starting from the bottom of your comment:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m swimming in MUs on the Basics.  I freely admit that. Whole track stuff.  I&#8217;m not OT, not even Clear. The Basics is a long course, all theory, no practical.  Not even starrates.  Its all just reading and listiening to tapes. Many many tapes.  I&#8217;d already read al the basics BOOKS.  The courses include many hours of tapes including the PDCs, the Factors. I like clearing words.  I loved KTL.  I have an ethic about reading and not going beyond misunderstood words.  So, I was pissed.  Here I had to go thru all this theory, and clear all these words which were part of material I wouldn&#8217;t be using yet, material that I&#8217;d be getting on the proper gradient and with starrates and clay demos and other practical drilling in concert with doing my Levels.  A waste of my time, and not helpful to me AND out-KSW (too long a runway).  The Basics are also mandated for NEW Scientologists before progressing onto anything else.  I disagreed.  So, yeah, Foolproof, I had MUs and they leaped off the page.  I know they&#8217;re there.  Make of that what you will.</p>
<p>Next, I know you&#8217;re not auditing us and I know that you&#8217;re also attacked vciously by some here and I know that in an org an auditor is protected by HCO , that this sort of thing is kept off their lines. </p>
<p>Many of the people on this blog DO have a &#8220;button&#8221; on help when it comes to Scientology. Many of the people on this blog associate Scientology NOT with help, but with extreme grief, loss and PAIN.<br />
For such people Scientology is a PAIN SOURCE.  If not an engram, then part of a huge secondary or at least a powerful lock.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t look from their viewpoints Foolproof.  Their experiences OBVOUSLY differed from yours. You really don&#8217;t know why but WHY it differed is not important at the outset.  It differed.  Get that.  But you CANNOT seem to get that.   You really don&#8217;t know why, and yet you evalutate that it has to be what YOU think it is,  And you TELL them what YOU think it is, in a at best superior, condescending tone and at worst with outright insults.</p>
<p>Sure they insult you but you&#8217;re an auditor and as such should be able to handle ANYTHING that&#8217;s verbally thrown at you.  </p>
<p>You defend the tech and yet deny the abuses and character failings of the Founder.  Why?  Why not just admit these character failings and abuses?  The tech is the tech and if it works it works and nothing can make that be any different.  Yet you&#8217;re defensive and evasive when put on the spot about your take on the things LRH did that were reprehensible and at times downright cruel and destructive. </p>
<p> Why not just admit these things, Foolproof?  The proof is so glaring, so out there and in-your-face that to deny them is absurd and unworthy of you.</p>
<p>The tech is the tech, LRH was LRH, you know?  What&#8217;s the big deal?</p>
<p>And of course, NO ONE disagrees about Miscavige being a psychopath.  We&#8217;re ALL solid on that, however else we may agree or disagree.</p>
<p>Oh, and last but not least, PLEASE don&#8217;t feel chastened or chastised, Foolproof.  Good heavens, THAT would be the LAST thing any of us would ever want 🙂</p>
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		By: WhatAreYourCrimes		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226049</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2018 10:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225939&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

FP, do any of the attacks on scientology you are hearing have any truth?  If it is all lies, than you are correct to go on with your life with a clear conscience.

But are all of these entheta all lies?  What if ONE of the thousands of stories you are reading is true?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225939">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>FP, do any of the attacks on scientology you are hearing have any truth?  If it is all lies, than you are correct to go on with your life with a clear conscience.</p>
<p>But are all of these entheta all lies?  What if ONE of the thousands of stories you are reading is true?</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226035</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2018 02:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226020&quot;&gt;KatherineINCali&lt;/a&gt;.

Kay, Logicproof is really stuck on lab rats because he knows that they are smarter that he is because they can get out of traps...  ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226020">KatherineINCali</a>.</p>
<p>Kay, Logicproof is really stuck on lab rats because he knows that they are smarter that he is because they can get out of traps&#8230;  😉</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226034</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2018 01:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226013&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

FP —

If you weren’t trying to impress us with your unlikely “high IQ”, then you wouldn’t have mentioned it at all .... or for the hundredth time. 

As for the rest of your reply, please spare us already.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226013">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>FP —</p>
<p>If you weren’t trying to impress us with your unlikely “high IQ”, then you wouldn’t have mentioned it at all &#8230;. or for the hundredth time. </p>
<p>As for the rest of your reply, please spare us already.</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226020</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KatherineINCali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2018 21:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225945&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Wynski —

I’ve literally lost count of how many times FP has ranted about “lab rats”. 

(...in regard to his reply to you and others..)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225945">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Wynski —</p>
<p>I’ve literally lost count of how many times FP has ranted about “lab rats”. </p>
<p>(&#8230;in regard to his reply to you and others..)</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-226019</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2018 21:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225988&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Look, one of Ron&#039;s zombies right on cue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225988">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Look, one of Ron&#8217;s zombies right on cue.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2018 21:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225982&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

The idiots on here should take a leaf from your book Peggy and look up their words like good boys and girls and then they wouldn&#039;t come on here and start bleating &quot;I never understood this thing called the mind and the thetan and all that! Anyway, I learned from Professor Moriarty that I am just a brain!&quot; See idiots - it wasn&#039;t hard was it? Peggy (and any sensible person) can do it, why can&#039;t you lot?

As to being diametrically (or Dianetically?) opposed, what beliefs of Hubbard did you find you were not in agreement with?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rons-ramblings/#comment-225982">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>The idiots on here should take a leaf from your book Peggy and look up their words like good boys and girls and then they wouldn&#8217;t come on here and start bleating &#8220;I never understood this thing called the mind and the thetan and all that! Anyway, I learned from Professor Moriarty that I am just a brain!&#8221; See idiots &#8211; it wasn&#8217;t hard was it? Peggy (and any sensible person) can do it, why can&#8217;t you lot?</p>
<p>As to being diametrically (or Dianetically?) opposed, what beliefs of Hubbard did you find you were not in agreement with?</p>
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