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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486682</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2022 00:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486564&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I understand now.  Thanks for explaining that.  Yes, if the FBI were in and themselves observed laws being broken then admittances of such from the RPFers wouldn&#039;t be necessary.  

Look, this may sound very Pollyanna-ish but I&#039;m speaking from some instinct within me that I cannot articulate.  Call it what you want, a hunch, a knowingness, a premonition, whatever - but its this thing, like this little, quiet &quot;voice&quot;  that&#039;s murmuring indistinctly that SOMETHING is going to occur that will bust this open- some little error that the cult will make, perhaps, or something coming to light about Scientology from some other source that will be the catalyst for another investigation from on high into Scientology, and when it happens, it will be ongoing, a process, and the government and the media won&#039;t give up on it - Pandora&#039;s Box Opened, one thing after another.  The  power of the US government determined to nail Miscavige&#039;s ass combined with relentless media attention because of course what we know about the abuses would make news that will electrify the country and the world, and it will all start by some little thing, some little mistake or some little piece of news, a small thread that gets pulled...that&#039;s my picture, if you want to call it that.  My hazy picture - but its there.

Of course, the crux of the matter is &quot;when&quot;.  Well, I don&#039;t know.  I&#039;m sorry, but my faint  inarticulate murmur is not telling me that :) Only that it WILL happen, not why or when. God knows it could be years from now; I don&#039;t know.   Hey, if I were THAT good I&#039;d give up working, sell my business and spend all day at a race track or something :)

Reading this over I know how foolish,  dumbly reassuring and downright ridiculous it  sounds and I&#039;m tempted to delete it and just express my thanks to you for responding but  instead I&#039;m taking a deep breath and leaving it in, and to hell with how it sounds, its still real to me, quite real! the inevitability of this happening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486564">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>I understand now.  Thanks for explaining that.  Yes, if the FBI were in and themselves observed laws being broken then admittances of such from the RPFers wouldn&#8217;t be necessary.  </p>
<p>Look, this may sound very Pollyanna-ish but I&#8217;m speaking from some instinct within me that I cannot articulate.  Call it what you want, a hunch, a knowingness, a premonition, whatever &#8211; but its this thing, like this little, quiet &#8220;voice&#8221;  that&#8217;s murmuring indistinctly that SOMETHING is going to occur that will bust this open- some little error that the cult will make, perhaps, or something coming to light about Scientology from some other source that will be the catalyst for another investigation from on high into Scientology, and when it happens, it will be ongoing, a process, and the government and the media won&#8217;t give up on it &#8211; Pandora&#8217;s Box Opened, one thing after another.  The  power of the US government determined to nail Miscavige&#8217;s ass combined with relentless media attention because of course what we know about the abuses would make news that will electrify the country and the world, and it will all start by some little thing, some little mistake or some little piece of news, a small thread that gets pulled&#8230;that&#8217;s my picture, if you want to call it that.  My hazy picture &#8211; but its there.</p>
<p>Of course, the crux of the matter is &#8220;when&#8221;.  Well, I don&#8217;t know.  I&#8217;m sorry, but my faint  inarticulate murmur is not telling me that 🙂 Only that it WILL happen, not why or when. God knows it could be years from now; I don&#8217;t know.   Hey, if I were THAT good I&#8217;d give up working, sell my business and spend all day at a race track or something 🙂</p>
<p>Reading this over I know how foolish,  dumbly reassuring and downright ridiculous it  sounds and I&#8217;m tempted to delete it and just express my thanks to you for responding but  instead I&#8217;m taking a deep breath and leaving it in, and to hell with how it sounds, its still real to me, quite real! the inevitability of this happening.</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2022 22:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486564&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aqua, the reason they need to physically go into the church is as you wrote, because the SO members won&#039;t tell the truth.  The violations I mentioned would not require staff to tell the FBI because the FBI would see/discover the violations in real time.  But, it won&#039;t happen because of the bosses over hte FBI won&#039;t allow it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486564">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aqua, the reason they need to physically go into the church is as you wrote, because the SO members won&#8217;t tell the truth.  The violations I mentioned would not require staff to tell the FBI because the FBI would see/discover the violations in real time.  But, it won&#8217;t happen because of the bosses over hte FBI won&#8217;t allow it.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486587</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2022 01:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486576&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, I&#039;ll have to google this, thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486576">Alcoboy</a>.</p>
<p>Wow, I&#8217;ll have to google this, thanks.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2022 00:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486561&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

Very true. But it doesn’t happen that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486561">Real</a>.</p>
<p>Very true. But it doesn’t happen that way.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2022 00:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486546&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Diversity&quot; would seem to be currently more important than skill in heading  very large US government agencies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486546">Real</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Diversity&#8221; would seem to be currently more important than skill in heading  very large US government agencies.</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2022 23:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486472&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Very true, Aqua. Like with that Jewish cult Lev Tahor. When law enforcement visits their compound, the members just smile and say that everything is okay. With no complaints, the law can&#039;t do anything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486472">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Very true, Aqua. Like with that Jewish cult Lev Tahor. When law enforcement visits their compound, the members just smile and say that everything is okay. With no complaints, the law can&#8217;t do anything.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486564</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2022 22:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486547&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

Real,

Thank you for your response. I am NOT knowledgeable in a legal sense about these matters.

Believe me when I tell you - please don&#039;t think, because of what I wrote, that I wouldn&#039;t WANT the FBI to go into Scientology&#039;s slave labour camps, or that I don&#039;t think the need for them to do so is not absolutely of paramount importance from a human rights perspective!

 There is no slightest doubt that a full and thorough FBI investigation into the Sea Org and its inhumane practices and human rights abuses is immediately needed.

 What I opined to you about what the FBI would largely (not wholly but largely) encounter with RPFers is based on what I&#039;ve read on the internet about the utter brain-washing that   is perpetrated on them. 

 Now, encountering this, would the FBI press on anyway? 

 I don&#039;t know.  I honestly don&#039;t know.  I would hope so.  I would want very much that they would, that they would see for their own eyes what was going on, the atrocities, the abuses, etc., and see all this would know that they had to press on, to find a way, somehow, to garner enough evidence to build a case for prosecution.  

And last but not least, Real, for whatever its worth, I definitely want you to be right in all your points concerning this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486547">Real</a>.</p>
<p>Real,</p>
<p>Thank you for your response. I am NOT knowledgeable in a legal sense about these matters.</p>
<p>Believe me when I tell you &#8211; please don&#8217;t think, because of what I wrote, that I wouldn&#8217;t WANT the FBI to go into Scientology&#8217;s slave labour camps, or that I don&#8217;t think the need for them to do so is not absolutely of paramount importance from a human rights perspective!</p>
<p> There is no slightest doubt that a full and thorough FBI investigation into the Sea Org and its inhumane practices and human rights abuses is immediately needed.</p>
<p> What I opined to you about what the FBI would largely (not wholly but largely) encounter with RPFers is based on what I&#8217;ve read on the internet about the utter brain-washing that   is perpetrated on them. </p>
<p> Now, encountering this, would the FBI press on anyway? </p>
<p> I don&#8217;t know.  I honestly don&#8217;t know.  I would hope so.  I would want very much that they would, that they would see for their own eyes what was going on, the atrocities, the abuses, etc., and see all this would know that they had to press on, to find a way, somehow, to garner enough evidence to build a case for prosecution.  </p>
<p>And last but not least, Real, for whatever its worth, I definitely want you to be right in all your points concerning this.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486562</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2022 21:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486420&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

Real, a search warrant is required.  If you look up any of the raids of cult compounds, you&#039;ll find that a judge had issued one prior to law enforcement going in.

Some government agencies like ICE/DHS and OSHA have limited power to make worksite inspections on their own authority, however.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486420">Real</a>.</p>
<p>Real, a search warrant is required.  If you look up any of the raids of cult compounds, you&#8217;ll find that a judge had issued one prior to law enforcement going in.</p>
<p>Some government agencies like ICE/DHS and OSHA have limited power to make worksite inspections on their own authority, however.</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2022 21:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486548&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

The PotUS can order the A.G. to prosecute.  If refused he can fire the A.G. and appoint someone who who will.  

That&#039;s how the Exec Branch is set up in the US Constitution.  In fact the PotUS can simply bypass ANY Department Head (like the A.G. or Sec Def) and order its subordinates to carry out his instructions. They can resign but that&#039;s it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486548">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>The PotUS can order the A.G. to prosecute.  If refused he can fire the A.G. and appoint someone who who will.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s how the Exec Branch is set up in the US Constitution.  In fact the PotUS can simply bypass ANY Department Head (like the A.G. or Sec Def) and order its subordinates to carry out his instructions. They can resign but that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2022 19:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486547&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, the FBI can investigate but it takes the DOJ to prosecute. And by tradition the decision of the DOJ to prosecute is independent of Presidential authority. Otherwise the US effectively becomes a police state where the President is able to use the tools of the state to go after political adversaries or those that would be popular with those who elected him. Remember the Nixon Enemies List that the IRS was supposed to go after and what a scandal that was?

It is true that Presidential authority over the executive branch is considered almost absolute, but when it comes to bringing criminal cases (or even tax collection) it has been treated as the exception to that authority.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/rpf-insider-part-3/#comment-486547">Real</a>.</p>
<p>Well, the FBI can investigate but it takes the DOJ to prosecute. And by tradition the decision of the DOJ to prosecute is independent of Presidential authority. Otherwise the US effectively becomes a police state where the President is able to use the tools of the state to go after political adversaries or those that would be popular with those who elected him. Remember the Nixon Enemies List that the IRS was supposed to go after and what a scandal that was?</p>
<p>It is true that Presidential authority over the executive branch is considered almost absolute, but when it comes to bringing criminal cases (or even tax collection) it has been treated as the exception to that authority.</p>
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