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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2019 21:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-306442&quot;&gt;Komodo Dragon&lt;/a&gt;.

Generally individuals have to be served in person unless they nominate someone to accept service on their behalf.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-306442">Komodo Dragon</a>.</p>
<p>Generally individuals have to be served in person unless they nominate someone to accept service on their behalf.</p>
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		By: Komodo Dragon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2019 21:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305645&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Mike, what is the rule  of serving the lawyer (aka Blinky) of the substituted service recipient?  Seems like serving the lawyer would be a fair and just method of serving.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305645">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Mike, what is the rule  of serving the lawyer (aka Blinky) of the substituted service recipient?  Seems like serving the lawyer would be a fair and just method of serving.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-306074</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-306004&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Got it on all, Mark.  Great memory!  I  Love everything Mel  A man that made  us laugh at the Holocaust - this is pure genius at work!  How I wish he could live long enough to do the same with our favorite cult.  What a wealth of material, OMG...hey, maybe you should give it a go ?  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-306004">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Got it on all, Mark.  Great memory!  I  Love everything Mel  A man that made  us laugh at the Holocaust &#8211; this is pure genius at work!  How I wish he could live long enough to do the same with our favorite cult.  What a wealth of material, OMG&#8230;hey, maybe you should give it a go ?  🙂</p>
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		By: Gaelic Gal		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-306053</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 16:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305983&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Are they still worth billions or is that fabricated as well?]]></description>
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<p>Are they still worth billions or is that fabricated as well?</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-306008</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305665&quot;&gt;Ms. B. Haven&lt;/a&gt;.

Ms. B, George, Scnethics:
I saw this phenomenon as well. I worked as a director of technical services at the founding church in DC and the degree of control, pressure, love-bombing, &quot;handling&quot;, and cajoling of &quot;preclears&quot; that went on when they were either close to finishing or DID finish an intensive of auditing was extraordinary. If you keep them on the auditing treadmill,you keep the moments of euphoria and &quot;blow-out&quot; happening in relatively tight succession; the state of delusion and disassociation is, more or less, continuous...and it gets reinforced and prolonged by all of the praise and back-slapping and love-bombing and milieu control and social agreement that occurs, daily, in that bubble world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305665">Ms. B. Haven</a>.</p>
<p>Ms. B, George, Scnethics:<br />
I saw this phenomenon as well. I worked as a director of technical services at the founding church in DC and the degree of control, pressure, love-bombing, &#8220;handling&#8221;, and cajoling of &#8220;preclears&#8221; that went on when they were either close to finishing or DID finish an intensive of auditing was extraordinary. If you keep them on the auditing treadmill,you keep the moments of euphoria and &#8220;blow-out&#8221; happening in relatively tight succession; the state of delusion and disassociation is, more or less, continuous&#8230;and it gets reinforced and prolonged by all of the praise and back-slapping and love-bombing and milieu control and social agreement that occurs, daily, in that bubble world.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305899&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

The great Mel Brooks...My dad took me to see BLAZING SADDLES as a wee little dude; I had no clue what was going on because it was above my head, but it was a real treat to see my super-quiet, kind-of-reserved dad laugh his ass off throughout the whole movie. When I saw the movie again as an adult, he was already dead, but it was a double treat for me because it was hilarious AND I carried the memory of his laughter as I laughed watching it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305899">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>The great Mel Brooks&#8230;My dad took me to see BLAZING SADDLES as a wee little dude; I had no clue what was going on because it was above my head, but it was a real treat to see my super-quiet, kind-of-reserved dad laugh his ass off throughout the whole movie. When I saw the movie again as an adult, he was already dead, but it was a double treat for me because it was hilarious AND I carried the memory of his laughter as I laughed watching it&#8230;</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 06:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305791&quot;&gt;Gaelic Gal&lt;/a&gt;.

Gaelic Gal, Scientology has been retrenching in Clearwater as is shrinks almost everywhere else - that&#039;s a calculated part of Miscavige&#039;s illusion of &quot;expansion.&quot;  Hundreds of old missions were gutted or closed and their business mostly folded into local org &quot;churches,&quot; and now the local orgs are being hollowed out and their business increasingly shifted to higher level orgs like Flag. 

What is baffling are the the enormous amounts of money they manage to squeeze from a decreasing number of members....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305791">Gaelic Gal</a>.</p>
<p>Gaelic Gal, Scientology has been retrenching in Clearwater as is shrinks almost everywhere else &#8211; that&#8217;s a calculated part of Miscavige&#8217;s illusion of &#8220;expansion.&#8221;  Hundreds of old missions were gutted or closed and their business mostly folded into local org &#8220;churches,&#8221; and now the local orgs are being hollowed out and their business increasingly shifted to higher level orgs like Flag. </p>
<p>What is baffling are the the enormous amounts of money they manage to squeeze from a decreasing number of members&#8230;.</p>
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		By: George M White		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305950</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 01:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305934&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Cindy, the pattern is clear.  Both of us noticed the same result.  I can draw up other instances of the same pattern.  People get blown out and then fall into depression.  My take is that Hubbard was creating the pattern with his auditing.  He had me believing that I had all of these barriers from millions of years ago.  Then he would allow me to blow them all away.  I felt great for a short time.  Hubbard got around it by saying in  the early 1980&#039;s that the bank was greater than he imagined it.  So you had to go through this over and over.  But in reality there is no other religion that makes lives follow one another the way Hubbard drew it out.  He thus created these past life chains to control people by saying he had the only solution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305934">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Cindy, the pattern is clear.  Both of us noticed the same result.  I can draw up other instances of the same pattern.  People get blown out and then fall into depression.  My take is that Hubbard was creating the pattern with his auditing.  He had me believing that I had all of these barriers from millions of years ago.  Then he would allow me to blow them all away.  I felt great for a short time.  Hubbard got around it by saying in  the early 1980&#8217;s that the bank was greater than he imagined it.  So you had to go through this over and over.  But in reality there is no other religion that makes lives follow one another the way Hubbard drew it out.  He thus created these past life chains to control people by saying he had the only solution.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2019 23:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305586&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree,  Skyler.  I LOVED that graphic for this article and I was going to ask Mike where he got it.  It&#039;s perfect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305586">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>I agree,  Skyler.  I LOVED that graphic for this article and I was going to ask Mike where he got it.  It&#8217;s perfect.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2019 23:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305619&quot;&gt;George M White&lt;/a&gt;.

George, so sorry for the loss of your friends.  But I also noticed what you are saying.  I had at least two different friends who did the L&#039;s who raved about it initially and then later sank into depression, and then into hard times.  One guy had his car repossessed for non payment, and lost their house to foreclosure and the other guy had so much financial trouble they couldn&#039;t pay rent and had to move in with relatives.  All this after they were &quot;blown out&quot; for about a few weeks or a month after these auditing services.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/running-in-circles-again/#comment-305619">George M White</a>.</p>
<p>George, so sorry for the loss of your friends.  But I also noticed what you are saying.  I had at least two different friends who did the L&#8217;s who raved about it initially and then later sank into depression, and then into hard times.  One guy had his car repossessed for non payment, and lost their house to foreclosure and the other guy had so much financial trouble they couldn&#8217;t pay rent and had to move in with relatives.  All this after they were &#8220;blown out&#8221; for about a few weeks or a month after these auditing services.</p>
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