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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 01:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ryan-prescotts-star-is-fading/#comment-399818&quot;&gt;Scribe&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, fine, Scribe, but can&#039;t you simplify this a little? :)]]></description>
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<p>Well, fine, Scribe, but can&#8217;t you simplify this a little? 🙂</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 01:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s OT but can&#039;t hold down a job...I knew a number of OTs with this problem back in the day.  Simply not trained to do anything for which they could get paid a living wage.  And proud of that.  Yes, proud.  Proud to be ignorant and unskilled in doing anything useful in the &quot;wog world&quot;.  Proud, I suppose, because a cert on the wall said they were Operating Thetans. 

 Apparently,  they were fine with going from job to job, trying this, trying that, eking out an uncertain existence, &quot;insoucient&quot; about being in huge debt, because their Bridge was worth it.  

They were OT 7s, OT8s.  They had made it all the way up the Bridge, against all odds
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Back then, listening to them filled me with quiet horror and dread.  I was (silently) appalled.  My words were full of the requisite praise; inwardly I shrank from what I was hearing.

Back then I took these involuntary reactions of mine as proof positive that I was without a doubt &quot;PTS To The Middle Class&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s OT but can&#8217;t hold down a job&#8230;I knew a number of OTs with this problem back in the day.  Simply not trained to do anything for which they could get paid a living wage.  And proud of that.  Yes, proud.  Proud to be ignorant and unskilled in doing anything useful in the &#8220;wog world&#8221;.  Proud, I suppose, because a cert on the wall said they were Operating Thetans. </p>
<p> Apparently,  they were fine with going from job to job, trying this, trying that, eking out an uncertain existence, &#8220;insoucient&#8221; about being in huge debt, because their Bridge was worth it.  </p>
<p>They were OT 7s, OT8s.  They had made it all the way up the Bridge, against all odds<br />
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Back then, listening to them filled me with quiet horror and dread.  I was (silently) appalled.  My words were full of the requisite praise; inwardly I shrank from what I was hearing.</p>
<p>Back then I took these involuntary reactions of mine as proof positive that I was without a doubt &#8220;PTS To The Middle Class&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2021 00:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ryan-prescotts-star-is-fading/#comment-399841&quot;&gt;SassMasterSupreme&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve been reading from the TBT site as some sort of trial subscription.  When I can, I think I&#039;ll get an annual subscription to support their fine work.  Well, Tracy&#039;s, at least. It&#039;s sorta like reading the local rag, catching up on a place I lived in for awhile,  a lifetime or two ago. Poor Clearwater.  I apologize for any contribution I made to its demise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ryan-prescotts-star-is-fading/#comment-399841">SassMasterSupreme</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading from the TBT site as some sort of trial subscription.  When I can, I think I&#8217;ll get an annual subscription to support their fine work.  Well, Tracy&#8217;s, at least. It&#8217;s sorta like reading the local rag, catching up on a place I lived in for awhile,  a lifetime or two ago. Poor Clearwater.  I apologize for any contribution I made to its demise.</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyx75to03		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2021 20:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if the whole Guardian&#039;s Office files, and all of Office of Special Affairs files, including all the &quot;Handling Programs&quot; ever written, were available to scrutinise, an observer and appreciator of the fine points of why OSA and the GO did all their entangling &quot;handling&quot; programs to combat against &quot;enemies&quot; of Scientology, one sub theme in the history of these programs would be in utilising these people like Ryan, to prey on Scientology&#039;s &quot;enemies.&quot;

A researcher of all the &quot;handling programs&quot; by Scientology against their &quot;enemies&quot; will contain the long list of these characters like Ryan.

People good at throwing against &quot;enemies&quot; of Scientology.

There ought be even a name to describe these types of persons who find their niche doing &quot;enemy handling&quot; duty for groups like Scientology.

Back in the 1950s when Martin Gardner in his must read book, &quot;Fads and Fallacies...&quot; all time must read book, which included Gardner&#039;s taking on Hubbard and Dianetics
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A73ITVW/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i3
I think Gardner had he done more study of this zone of oddball groups, would find in Hubbard&#039;s Scientology&#039;s bureaucracy protection departments (the Guardian&#039;s Office, and the Office of Special Affairs are essentially the &quot;protection&quot; departments in Scientology&#039;s history) there is just voluminous tactics Hubbard came up with which fit these quackery groups&#039; common &quot;self protection&quot; systemic reactions to that quackery/crackpot groups unacknowledged flaws.

The cult/guru/&quot;master&quot;/founder of the worlds quackery/crackpot groups one for one have their &quot;protection&quot; tactics, and Scientology&#039;s bureaucratic &quot;protection&quot; departments have been voluminous.

Hubbard amped things up, and bureaucratised it all, which runs like a big ship that can&#039;t be turned around easily on open water.  

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My latest hope is there will be some brilliant young ex Scientologist, who becomes IRS religious tax exemption lawyer rules expert of experts, and writes a definitive research paper which becomes a book, and Aftermath Foundation makes life easier for this young ex Scientologist to essentially lay out exactly all the definitive hard IRS tax law work that the IRS ought to do, to rescind Scientology&#039;s IRS tax exemption.  Do the IRS&#039; hat for them, and present the work publicly.  That&#039;s my future hope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the whole Guardian&#8217;s Office files, and all of Office of Special Affairs files, including all the &#8220;Handling Programs&#8221; ever written, were available to scrutinise, an observer and appreciator of the fine points of why OSA and the GO did all their entangling &#8220;handling&#8221; programs to combat against &#8220;enemies&#8221; of Scientology, one sub theme in the history of these programs would be in utilising these people like Ryan, to prey on Scientology&#8217;s &#8220;enemies.&#8221;</p>
<p>A researcher of all the &#8220;handling programs&#8221; by Scientology against their &#8220;enemies&#8221; will contain the long list of these characters like Ryan.</p>
<p>People good at throwing against &#8220;enemies&#8221; of Scientology.</p>
<p>There ought be even a name to describe these types of persons who find their niche doing &#8220;enemy handling&#8221; duty for groups like Scientology.</p>
<p>Back in the 1950s when Martin Gardner in his must read book, &#8220;Fads and Fallacies&#8230;&#8221; all time must read book, which included Gardner&#8217;s taking on Hubbard and Dianetics<br />
<a href="https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A73ITVW/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i3" rel="nofollow ugc">https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A73ITVW/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i3</a><br />
I think Gardner had he done more study of this zone of oddball groups, would find in Hubbard&#8217;s Scientology&#8217;s bureaucracy protection departments (the Guardian&#8217;s Office, and the Office of Special Affairs are essentially the &#8220;protection&#8221; departments in Scientology&#8217;s history) there is just voluminous tactics Hubbard came up with which fit these quackery groups&#8217; common &#8220;self protection&#8221; systemic reactions to that quackery/crackpot groups unacknowledged flaws.</p>
<p>The cult/guru/&#8221;master&#8221;/founder of the worlds quackery/crackpot groups one for one have their &#8220;protection&#8221; tactics, and Scientology&#8217;s bureaucratic &#8220;protection&#8221; departments have been voluminous.</p>
<p>Hubbard amped things up, and bureaucratised it all, which runs like a big ship that can&#8217;t be turned around easily on open water.  </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>My latest hope is there will be some brilliant young ex Scientologist, who becomes IRS religious tax exemption lawyer rules expert of experts, and writes a definitive research paper which becomes a book, and Aftermath Foundation makes life easier for this young ex Scientologist to essentially lay out exactly all the definitive hard IRS tax law work that the IRS ought to do, to rescind Scientology&#8217;s IRS tax exemption.  Do the IRS&#8217; hat for them, and present the work publicly.  That&#8217;s my future hope.</p>
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		By: Tropf Rosemarie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2021 17:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ryan-prescotts-star-is-fading/#comment-399933&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree...the family needs professional help...autistic people get a lot of helpful ideas on how to manage their life for better social interactions.  It&#039;s a shame he will just be continually rejected by those who just think something like&quot;he&#039;s nuts.&quot; etc.]]></description>
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<p>I agree&#8230;the family needs professional help&#8230;autistic people get a lot of helpful ideas on how to manage their life for better social interactions.  It&#8217;s a shame he will just be continually rejected by those who just think something like&#8221;he&#8217;s nuts.&#8221; etc.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2021 13:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ryan-prescotts-star-is-fading/#comment-399891&quot;&gt;Kimo&lt;/a&gt;.

Kimo - Thanks for sharing. These days most people are informed about the numerous conditions affecting people and hopefully children today will suffer less abuse.

As a baby boomer I grew up with a kid who had Tourette Syndrome, a nervous system disorder involving repetitive movements or unwanted sounds. He got continually teased and mocked. I spoke with him on the phone one time and apologized for teasing him when we were kids but he just shrugged it off, no apology necessary. Along with Tourette&#039;s he didn&#039;t have enough &quot;book smarts&quot; to get into college but joined the plumber&#039;s union and eventually started his own large plumbing company and became a millionaire so his story had a happy ending.]]></description>
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<p>Kimo &#8211; Thanks for sharing. These days most people are informed about the numerous conditions affecting people and hopefully children today will suffer less abuse.</p>
<p>As a baby boomer I grew up with a kid who had Tourette Syndrome, a nervous system disorder involving repetitive movements or unwanted sounds. He got continually teased and mocked. I spoke with him on the phone one time and apologized for teasing him when we were kids but he just shrugged it off, no apology necessary. Along with Tourette&#8217;s he didn&#8217;t have enough &#8220;book smarts&#8221; to get into college but joined the plumber&#8217;s union and eventually started his own large plumbing company and became a millionaire so his story had a happy ending.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2021 11:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ryan-prescotts-star-is-fading/#comment-399810&quot;&gt;Tropf Rosemarie&lt;/a&gt;.

With on-demand printing it takes almost nothing to get a book out these days.  And I understand Amazon will list a book if you send them something like just 5 print copies to keep in stock.

And I think you&#039;re probably right that his doing extension courses is a sign that orgs are keeping him at arms&#039; length due to concerns about his mental stability.  After a series of ugly events most infamously marked by the death of Lisa McPherson, the CofS seems to be trying to weed out the people most at risk of having mental breakdowns, especially at Flag but apparently all the way down to the local org level.

Based on a comment below from someone who says they know the family, and that he has a brother who is definitely autistic, it sounds like underlying this is a sad story of people not getting the treatment they need due to scientology.]]></description>
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<p>With on-demand printing it takes almost nothing to get a book out these days.  And I understand Amazon will list a book if you send them something like just 5 print copies to keep in stock.</p>
<p>And I think you&#8217;re probably right that his doing extension courses is a sign that orgs are keeping him at arms&#8217; length due to concerns about his mental stability.  After a series of ugly events most infamously marked by the death of Lisa McPherson, the CofS seems to be trying to weed out the people most at risk of having mental breakdowns, especially at Flag but apparently all the way down to the local org level.</p>
<p>Based on a comment below from someone who says they know the family, and that he has a brother who is definitely autistic, it sounds like underlying this is a sad story of people not getting the treatment they need due to scientology.</p>
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		By: Loosing my Religion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ryan-prescotts-star-is-fading/#comment-399861&quot;&gt;Jeff Jin&lt;/a&gt;.

Jeff. True and that&#039;s the point.  Until recently he was more groomed and looked more like a normal boy in appearance.  He has gotten much worse now and this reflects his mental state.]]></description>
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<p>Jeff. True and that&#8217;s the point.  Until recently he was more groomed and looked more like a normal boy in appearance.  He has gotten much worse now and this reflects his mental state.</p>
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		By: Loosing my Religion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ryan-prescotts-star-is-fading/#comment-399839&quot;&gt;jim rowles&lt;/a&gt;.

Correct point. I don&#039;t know but I suppose the guy doesn&#039;t qualifies for scn &quot;standards&quot;. He is a loose cannon looking for attention, let&#039;s hope nobody gets hurt, not even him.]]></description>
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<p>Correct point. I don&#8217;t know but I suppose the guy doesn&#8217;t qualifies for scn &#8220;standards&#8221;. He is a loose cannon looking for attention, let&#8217;s hope nobody gets hurt, not even him.</p>
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		By: Kimo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2021 04:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ryan-prescotts-star-is-fading/#comment-399802&quot;&gt;ISNOINews&lt;/a&gt;.

I have not the first clue who Ryan Prescott is.  But if he&#039;s on the spectrum, scientology is the WRONG place for him to be.  And I cannot even begin to express the feelings of seething rage I feel towards his family and everyone around him who would be a reason why he would not get support and the help he needs to cope with it. 

I learned I am on the autism spectrum as an adult after struggling with damn near everything for decades, being wicked smart but not being able to progress in a job, being called lazy, insubordinate, incompetent, argumentive, arrogant, pedantic, and yes, as someone in these comments so crudely put it, &quot;out of touch with reality.&quot;  

Exactly whose reality are you referring to? Yours? Those of my similarly fundamentalist parent who, when I misbehaved as a child because I didn&#039;t understand the whys of a &quot;reality&quot; that didn&#039;t accept that anything could be wrong with HER son, would have men from the church come over to administer spankings with either the wooden spoon or the belt to &quot;correct&quot; me?  How about the schoolteachers who would ridicule me, Pink Floyd-style in front of the class, when I would do assignments differently because my brain doesn&#039;t work the way it SHOULD? These realities?

Ok, if indeed he&#039;s on the spectrum, then his reality has been shaped by realities and forces you &quot;normal&quot; people cannot even begin to comprehend, but yet he becomes and object of ridicule and derision and his inability to function in the world not designed for him in a &quot;normal&quot; manner is amplified manyfold by the environment he was unfortunate enough to be born into, that of Scientology.  

If indeed he is on the spectrum, then I know exactly what he is going through, and it makes me want to weep for him.  His reality is fraught with frustrations and struggles and horrors that I wouldn&#039;t wish on anyone, and without help can be utterly debilitating.  And nobody will believe him, because he looks so normal on the outside... 

If he&#039;s NOT on the spectrum, and is just a loser, then that&#039;s entirely different, but still Scientology fails again, as usual, on every level.]]></description>
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<p>I have not the first clue who Ryan Prescott is.  But if he&#8217;s on the spectrum, scientology is the WRONG place for him to be.  And I cannot even begin to express the feelings of seething rage I feel towards his family and everyone around him who would be a reason why he would not get support and the help he needs to cope with it. </p>
<p>I learned I am on the autism spectrum as an adult after struggling with damn near everything for decades, being wicked smart but not being able to progress in a job, being called lazy, insubordinate, incompetent, argumentive, arrogant, pedantic, and yes, as someone in these comments so crudely put it, &#8220;out of touch with reality.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Exactly whose reality are you referring to? Yours? Those of my similarly fundamentalist parent who, when I misbehaved as a child because I didn&#8217;t understand the whys of a &#8220;reality&#8221; that didn&#8217;t accept that anything could be wrong with HER son, would have men from the church come over to administer spankings with either the wooden spoon or the belt to &#8220;correct&#8221; me?  How about the schoolteachers who would ridicule me, Pink Floyd-style in front of the class, when I would do assignments differently because my brain doesn&#8217;t work the way it SHOULD? These realities?</p>
<p>Ok, if indeed he&#8217;s on the spectrum, then his reality has been shaped by realities and forces you &#8220;normal&#8221; people cannot even begin to comprehend, but yet he becomes and object of ridicule and derision and his inability to function in the world not designed for him in a &#8220;normal&#8221; manner is amplified manyfold by the environment he was unfortunate enough to be born into, that of Scientology.  </p>
<p>If indeed he is on the spectrum, then I know exactly what he is going through, and it makes me want to weep for him.  His reality is fraught with frustrations and struggles and horrors that I wouldn&#8217;t wish on anyone, and without help can be utterly debilitating.  And nobody will believe him, because he looks so normal on the outside&#8230; </p>
<p>If he&#8217;s NOT on the spectrum, and is just a loser, then that&#8217;s entirely different, but still Scientology fails again, as usual, on every level.</p>
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