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		By: Over and Out		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Over and Out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2023 18:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513143&quot;&gt;Mike Binder&lt;/a&gt;.

What’s the matter OSA Mike Binder?  Stats down this week?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513143">Mike Binder</a>.</p>
<p>What’s the matter OSA Mike Binder?  Stats down this week?</p>
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		By: Kfjfjdisospeoofifnfn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kfjfjdisospeoofifnfn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2023 17:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513172&quot;&gt;Over and Out&lt;/a&gt;.

Last I checked the executive director is Jim Fitzgerald.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513172">Over and Out</a>.</p>
<p>Last I checked the executive director is Jim Fitzgerald.</p>
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		By: Over and Out		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Over and Out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513158&quot;&gt;Shannon&lt;/a&gt;.

David Miscaviges  long term goal is to clear people&#039;s bank accounts while he plays &quot;The Fuhrer&quot; and fucks with people&#039;s lives.  He is a sadist that enjoys other people&#039;s suffering.  Where besides a &quot;religion&quot; can one play these destructive games where the only winner is the leader while he crushes people daily.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513158">Shannon</a>.</p>
<p>David Miscaviges  long term goal is to clear people&#8217;s bank accounts while he plays &#8220;The Fuhrer&#8221; and fucks with people&#8217;s lives.  He is a sadist that enjoys other people&#8217;s suffering.  Where besides a &#8220;religion&#8221; can one play these destructive games where the only winner is the leader while he crushes people daily.</p>
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		By: Over and Out		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Over and Out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 15:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513162&quot;&gt;Len Zinberg&lt;/a&gt;.

Len - Yes, Scientology has been on a long, slow death spiral and is circulating the drain as they have to dip into Slappy Miscavige&#039;s billion dollar reserves he uses as his play money to live his lavish lifestyle while abusing members and conducting continuous human trafficking of poor victims from 3rd world countries in a bait and switch trap of epic porportions to Keep Scientology appearance to be Working, when the reality is 
Scientology is DEAD

To coin Tory Magoo favorite phrase....

&quot;Tick Tock David Miscavige... Tick Tock...&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513162">Len Zinberg</a>.</p>
<p>Len &#8211; Yes, Scientology has been on a long, slow death spiral and is circulating the drain as they have to dip into Slappy Miscavige&#8217;s billion dollar reserves he uses as his play money to live his lavish lifestyle while abusing members and conducting continuous human trafficking of poor victims from 3rd world countries in a bait and switch trap of epic porportions to Keep Scientology appearance to be Working, when the reality is<br />
Scientology is DEAD</p>
<p>To coin Tory Magoo favorite phrase&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Tick Tock David Miscavige&#8230; Tick Tock&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		By: Over and Out		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Over and Out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 15:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513167&quot;&gt;GL&lt;/a&gt;.

Cuz the Oat Tea Ate&#039;s die of cancer and other strange early deaths...Scientology KILLS!
Many Clears and OT&#039;s leave Scientology after discovering they were duped, L Ron Hubbard was a con man, they were trapped in a cult using clever mind control tactics and they ain&#039;t got any super powers to do diddly squat after giving up their lives and all of their money to the Cult of Scientology so the leaders can live lavish lifestyles.

Google:  Larry Anderson, Jason Beghe, Leah Remini for starters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513167">GL</a>.</p>
<p>Cuz the Oat Tea Ate&#8217;s die of cancer and other strange early deaths&#8230;Scientology KILLS!<br />
Many Clears and OT&#8217;s leave Scientology after discovering they were duped, L Ron Hubbard was a con man, they were trapped in a cult using clever mind control tactics and they ain&#8217;t got any super powers to do diddly squat after giving up their lives and all of their money to the Cult of Scientology so the leaders can live lavish lifestyles.</p>
<p>Google:  Larry Anderson, Jason Beghe, Leah Remini for starters.</p>
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		By: Felix		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Felix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513172&quot;&gt;Over and Out&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know who the ED is, but Aaron Kyro is the PES there I&#039;m pretty sure. He&#039;s got a pretty big following on social media]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513172">Over and Out</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know who the ED is, but Aaron Kyro is the PES there I&#8217;m pretty sure. He&#8217;s got a pretty big following on social media</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 06:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513203&quot;&gt;Constantine&lt;/a&gt;.

Constantine, I assume if the &quot;ideal&quot; orgs are supposed to pay rent, that most are having it waived, or tacked on to some sort of debt they are supposed to owe, at this point.

From a financial planning perspective, the whole ideal org campaign could be seen as a way to get the local orgs, or at least the CofS in general, out from under having to pay rent as their financial prospects decline, that members are being asked to contribute to based on other pretenses.  If all the buildings are paid for, DM can keep up the appearance of the doors of every existing location being open, with a minimal annual drawing down of reserves in the worst case.

And I think it&#039;s indeed an important but sorry point, that many members have gone bankrupt or even lost their own homes, in order to finance this scheme.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513203">Constantine</a>.</p>
<p>Constantine, I assume if the &#8220;ideal&#8221; orgs are supposed to pay rent, that most are having it waived, or tacked on to some sort of debt they are supposed to owe, at this point.</p>
<p>From a financial planning perspective, the whole ideal org campaign could be seen as a way to get the local orgs, or at least the CofS in general, out from under having to pay rent as their financial prospects decline, that members are being asked to contribute to based on other pretenses.  If all the buildings are paid for, DM can keep up the appearance of the doors of every existing location being open, with a minimal annual drawing down of reserves in the worst case.</p>
<p>And I think it&#8217;s indeed an important but sorry point, that many members have gone bankrupt or even lost their own homes, in order to finance this scheme.</p>
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		By: Elwrong		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elwrong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2023 20:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513162&quot;&gt;Len Zinberg&lt;/a&gt;.

Scientology is &quot;the incredible shrinking  cult&quot;. It just keeps shrinking year after year. One thing I&#039;ll say for Scientology is that they&#039;re incredibly resilient. It is indeed amazing that their still around. That Scientology&#039;s days are numbered seems obvious,  but I wouldn&#039;t make book on how long they&#039;ll keep going. They&#039;re very resilient  they seem to just keep going, no matter how comical they get. I guess as long as there&#039;s a &quot;true believer&quot; left. Scientology will keep going, pretending that they&#039;re stats are highest ever,maybe increasing10X every year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513162">Len Zinberg</a>.</p>
<p>Scientology is &#8220;the incredible shrinking  cult&#8221;. It just keeps shrinking year after year. One thing I&#8217;ll say for Scientology is that they&#8217;re incredibly resilient. It is indeed amazing that their still around. That Scientology&#8217;s days are numbered seems obvious,  but I wouldn&#8217;t make book on how long they&#8217;ll keep going. They&#8217;re very resilient  they seem to just keep going, no matter how comical they get. I guess as long as there&#8217;s a &#8220;true believer&#8221; left. Scientology will keep going, pretending that they&#8217;re stats are highest ever,maybe increasing10X every year.</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rip Van Winkle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2023 16:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vancouver Org  - a tiny boat of Old timers, 2nd and 3rd gens - is trying to achieve Ideal - 

Maybe their OTC should arrange a field trip down to Ideal Seattle Org and Ideal Portland orgs, to go see all their successful actions in person.  

They&#039;re close by, and you can bet a bunch of them would have went to the Grand Openings of both.


It&#039;s always such a boost to get a fresh viewpoint as a staff member.  That&#039;s why we&#039;d get ordered to Folo or CLO routinely, to get our clocks cleaned and our viewpoints freshened up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vancouver Org  &#8211; a tiny boat of Old timers, 2nd and 3rd gens &#8211; is trying to achieve Ideal &#8211; </p>
<p>Maybe their OTC should arrange a field trip down to Ideal Seattle Org and Ideal Portland orgs, to go see all their successful actions in person.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;re close by, and you can bet a bunch of them would have went to the Grand Openings of both.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always such a boost to get a fresh viewpoint as a staff member.  That&#8217;s why we&#8217;d get ordered to Folo or CLO routinely, to get our clocks cleaned and our viewpoints freshened up.</p>
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		By: Peggy L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peggy L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2023 15:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513167&quot;&gt;GL&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Why don’t they send one of their sooper-dooper super powered super being ot8’s to Johannesburg to use their sooper-dooper super mind powers to create electricity?&quot; 

I think that a lot GL every time there&#039;s some crisis going on in the cult, or some catastrophic event anywhere in the world. That would be the perfect time to prove their super powers. What&#039;s the sense in even having ot8s if they just sit around doing nothing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/san-francisco-ideal-org-failing-what-a-shock/#comment-513167">GL</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why don’t they send one of their sooper-dooper super powered super being ot8’s to Johannesburg to use their sooper-dooper super mind powers to create electricity?&#8221; </p>
<p>I think that a lot GL every time there&#8217;s some crisis going on in the cult, or some catastrophic event anywhere in the world. That would be the perfect time to prove their super powers. What&#8217;s the sense in even having ot8s if they just sit around doing nothing?</p>
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