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		By: Cacres@mail.com		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Feb 2024 22:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-professing-their-love-for-jesus/#comment-477319&quot;&gt;Geoff Levin&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow…right on….
Balance of nature, part of Scientology, she says, “ first I pray” then take Balance of Nature…shit]]></description>
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<p>Wow…right on….<br />
Balance of nature, part of Scientology, she says, “ first I pray” then take Balance of Nature…shit</p>
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		By: Michelle Davies		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2022 19:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-professing-their-love-for-jesus/#comment-479686&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

No problem. You&#039;ll have to bear with me, I have a busy schedule, but it is something I&#039;d really like to do, so I will star your emails and get onto it as soon as I can. Thank you]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-professing-their-love-for-jesus/#comment-479686">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>No problem. You&#8217;ll have to bear with me, I have a busy schedule, but it is something I&#8217;d really like to do, so I will star your emails and get onto it as soon as I can. Thank you</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2022 12:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-professing-their-love-for-jesus/#comment-479635&quot;&gt;Michelle Davies&lt;/a&gt;.

MIchelle -- probably best it to write it out and I will publish it here on the blog. I will email you.]]></description>
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<p>MIchelle &#8212; probably best it to write it out and I will publish it here on the blog. I will email you.</p>
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		By: Michelle Davies		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Davies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2022 01:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-professing-their-love-for-jesus/#comment-479632&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

What options are there? I&#039;m open to videoing it, or writing it...although that would take a bit long I think. Or interview type? How does it normally happen? Thank you]]></description>
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<p>What options are there? I&#8217;m open to videoing it, or writing it&#8230;although that would take a bit long I think. Or interview type? How does it normally happen? Thank you</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2022 01:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-professing-their-love-for-jesus/#comment-479628&quot;&gt;Michelle Davies&lt;/a&gt;.

Happy to hear this.

Where would you like to share your story?]]></description>
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<p>Happy to hear this.</p>
<p>Where would you like to share your story?</p>
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		By: Michelle Davies		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2022 01:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-professing-their-love-for-jesus/#comment-476603&quot;&gt;Mission guy&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi I was in scientology and worked my way upto being the ED of Narconon but when I left, and relapsed, I actually got sex trafficked before reaching a rock bottom, finding a 12 step program and after several years, I too have found Jesus and faith and my life has truly transformed, I have my family back in my life, I still am recovering from the cult...probably more so from that than anything else. Would love to share my story.]]></description>
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<p>Hi I was in scientology and worked my way upto being the ED of Narconon but when I left, and relapsed, I actually got sex trafficked before reaching a rock bottom, finding a 12 step program and after several years, I too have found Jesus and faith and my life has truly transformed, I have my family back in my life, I still am recovering from the cult&#8230;probably more so from that than anything else. Would love to share my story.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-professing-their-love-for-jesus/#comment-477694&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Chuck - Got it. Admittedly as a bit of apologist comment, in his younger years Hubbard might have been making a legitimate attempt to find a shorter way to Nirvana or Total Freedom as he later termed it. For thousands of years Hindus, Buddhists and numerous other philosophies, religions and practices have explored the possibility of higher levels of spiritual Awareness, Attainment, Fulfillment or whatever you want to call it. Traditional Buddhists admit their path is long and arduous. Hubbard failed in his attempt to find a shorter path and the older he got the worse he got.

In 1957 when he was 46 years old he published a booklet called &quot;Clear Procedure Issue One&quot; which seemed to be a legitimate attempt to produce &quot;Clears and OTs.&quot; I googled it but it just goes directly to a pdf and I couldn&#039;t find a website address.]]></description>
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<p>Hi Chuck &#8211; Got it. Admittedly as a bit of apologist comment, in his younger years Hubbard might have been making a legitimate attempt to find a shorter way to Nirvana or Total Freedom as he later termed it. For thousands of years Hindus, Buddhists and numerous other philosophies, religions and practices have explored the possibility of higher levels of spiritual Awareness, Attainment, Fulfillment or whatever you want to call it. Traditional Buddhists admit their path is long and arduous. Hubbard failed in his attempt to find a shorter path and the older he got the worse he got.</p>
<p>In 1957 when he was 46 years old he published a booklet called &#8220;Clear Procedure Issue One&#8221; which seemed to be a legitimate attempt to produce &#8220;Clears and OTs.&#8221; I googled it but it just goes directly to a pdf and I couldn&#8217;t find a website address.</p>
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		By: safetyguy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2022 13:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-professing-their-love-for-jesus/#comment-477688&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty77&lt;/a&gt;.

I truly love the outdoors.  Love sitting there watching as the animals walk by not knowing I am there.  Not disturbing them, just watching.

Two particular times were really funny.  Once I had a bird land in the tree next to me no more than 4 feet from my hand.  Had no idea I was there.  Looked at me and and just stood there for 30 seconds staring before he flew off.  Then one day I felt something falling on my hat from up the tree.  Thought it was acorns falling out of the oak tree.  Looked up and about 6 feet above me was a squirrel sitting on a limb eating and dropping the shells on me.  Boy did he leave in a hurry when he realized I was below him.  

Love it.]]></description>
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<p>I truly love the outdoors.  Love sitting there watching as the animals walk by not knowing I am there.  Not disturbing them, just watching.</p>
<p>Two particular times were really funny.  Once I had a bird land in the tree next to me no more than 4 feet from my hand.  Had no idea I was there.  Looked at me and and just stood there for 30 seconds staring before he flew off.  Then one day I felt something falling on my hat from up the tree.  Thought it was acorns falling out of the oak tree.  Looked up and about 6 feet above me was a squirrel sitting on a limb eating and dropping the shells on me.  Boy did he leave in a hurry when he realized I was below him.  </p>
<p>Love it.</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-professing-their-love-for-jesus/#comment-476561&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Yea.  Only in the very end did I even have a similar thought, that as &quot;souls&quot; which transmigrate eternally into human bodies on different planets over long swathes of time, living out contrasting &quot;terminal&quot; roles, yes, over the long haul, you do practically everything, for eons, in large blocks of time.

But that avenue of interpretation, of the soul that we are at our core, what I found missing, in Scientology, was more emphasis on &quot;Serenity of Beingness&quot; and &quot;Native State&quot; theory from Hubbard.

His years in all his writings, were one to do a pie chart of his emphasis on core soul and the top of the Tone Scale &quot;beingness&quot; of the soul, you&#039;d think he&#039;s have wrapped up the goals, for us souls more on the higher end of things we supposedly are shooting for with the practices (auditing and training).

So, it seems in hindsight, if one is trying to be apologetic to Hubbard, and think he was consumed with his legal battles and the threat of &quot;losing it all&quot; to IRS in taxes, and collapse the bureaucracy he&#039;d set up, even with that dire threat, he ought to have put out more to the final goal.

All that he wrote, was the tiny &quot;Native State&quot; remark in the staff writing 339R Int issue.]]></description>
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<p>Yea.  Only in the very end did I even have a similar thought, that as &#8220;souls&#8221; which transmigrate eternally into human bodies on different planets over long swathes of time, living out contrasting &#8220;terminal&#8221; roles, yes, over the long haul, you do practically everything, for eons, in large blocks of time.</p>
<p>But that avenue of interpretation, of the soul that we are at our core, what I found missing, in Scientology, was more emphasis on &#8220;Serenity of Beingness&#8221; and &#8220;Native State&#8221; theory from Hubbard.</p>
<p>His years in all his writings, were one to do a pie chart of his emphasis on core soul and the top of the Tone Scale &#8220;beingness&#8221; of the soul, you&#8217;d think he&#8217;s have wrapped up the goals, for us souls more on the higher end of things we supposedly are shooting for with the practices (auditing and training).</p>
<p>So, it seems in hindsight, if one is trying to be apologetic to Hubbard, and think he was consumed with his legal battles and the threat of &#8220;losing it all&#8221; to IRS in taxes, and collapse the bureaucracy he&#8217;d set up, even with that dire threat, he ought to have put out more to the final goal.</p>
<p>All that he wrote, was the tiny &#8220;Native State&#8221; remark in the staff writing 339R Int issue.</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-professing-their-love-for-jesus/#comment-477004&quot;&gt;GL&lt;/a&gt;.

Nice, wow.]]></description>
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<p>Nice, wow.</p>
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