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		By: Kathleen Liggett		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-155370&quot;&gt;Renee&lt;/a&gt;.

Do you really think they on the inside celebrate Holidays and Birthdays like we do. You have to remember the isolation from the outside world, they have 
No TV or internet. They have no idea of the real world. Another comment about Tom Cruise, did you ever wonder why Nicole Kidman fled without her two adopted children who were given custody to Tom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-155370">Renee</a>.</p>
<p>Do you really think they on the inside celebrate Holidays and Birthdays like we do. You have to remember the isolation from the outside world, they have<br />
No TV or internet. They have no idea of the real world. Another comment about Tom Cruise, did you ever wonder why Nicole Kidman fled without her two adopted children who were given custody to Tom.</p>
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		By: Leanne		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-156212</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2016 22:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, thank you and Leah and A&#038;E and everyone else who has participated and will continue to shed the true light on what Scientology is all about. As a child, and as an adult, I have had experiences with three different cults. Most recently, it was Scientology. I interviewed with a Dentist and was so excited to learn that they put a very high value on continuing education. They said that were very involved with learning about new technologies and ways to communicate better with their clients. As a student of life, this really spoke to me and my personal and professional goals. I felt the interview went quite well and was called back the next day and offered the job. I felt like they saw something in me that was worth investing time and money into additional training in the dental field. I felt special. They asked me to come back the next day for some testing that would help them asses my strengths and weaknesses in order to find the ways I would best serve the practice. I agreed. After taking the almost two hour &#039;test&#039;, I left. I began to feel slightly uncomfortable as I am a very private person, and I felt these questions/answers were exposing who I was just a bit too much. I disregarded the voice in my head that said &quot;something is not right&quot; and went into my first day of work the next Monday. As it happened, the dentist and his wife, the practice manager, were in Clearwater for training. I was given a binder, the biggest binder I had ever seen in my life, crammed full of page after page of policies I had to sign and agree to.  Again, this seemed quite strange to me as it was different than any first day of work I&#039;ve ever had. As the day went on, I saw posters in the back that had &#039;L. Ron Hubbard&#039; written at the bottom. Not being very familiar with Scientology at that time, I took a mental note, but said nothing. I then began some training on how the dentist describes and names his instruments. This is typical as every dentist is different. I was practicing, and when my supervisor left the room, I happened to see a piece of paper on the counter. It was all about me. What type/color personality I had, what would motivate me, what would overwhelm me....etc etc. The moment I read the things on that paper, I could feel my face getting all red, and something inside me boiling up. I was mad. &quot;Who do you think you are telling me who I am?&quot; I became extremely uncomfortable and wasn&#039;t sure if I&#039;d last the day, but I did. I went home and got on my laptop. I started searching for the &#039;testing&#039; they&#039;d done on me and on Scientology in general. I stayed up all night, researching and coming to the conclusion that this was no religion, this was a cult. And I was now employed by people who were very involved with this cult and wanted me to be involved too.  I emailed the dentist the next morning and thanked him kindly for the opportunity, but that position was not a good fit for me. Well, let me say, things did not end there. With a normal position, an employer may ask why, but things would probably end there. Not in this case. I was called--incessantly--but I never responded. By now my heart and soul knew that I was dealing with a cult and there was no point interacting further. A classmate of mine did not head my warning and accepted a job there a while later and experienced similar things. She quit and was harassed in the same ways and worse, she was also followed, which forced to hide at my home. Disgusting practices of a cult. Until this experience I cannot say that I ever thought a business would be able to do things like this legally, but under the guise of religious freedom, they do. I will continue to support you, Leah, A&#038;E and everyone else who is involved with this movement you are creating. I am so thankful I had past experiences that gave me the intuition to stay far away from Scientology. I will also continue to pray for all who are still in Scientology. May God bless you all. You are in my prayers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, thank you and Leah and A&amp;E and everyone else who has participated and will continue to shed the true light on what Scientology is all about. As a child, and as an adult, I have had experiences with three different cults. Most recently, it was Scientology. I interviewed with a Dentist and was so excited to learn that they put a very high value on continuing education. They said that were very involved with learning about new technologies and ways to communicate better with their clients. As a student of life, this really spoke to me and my personal and professional goals. I felt the interview went quite well and was called back the next day and offered the job. I felt like they saw something in me that was worth investing time and money into additional training in the dental field. I felt special. They asked me to come back the next day for some testing that would help them asses my strengths and weaknesses in order to find the ways I would best serve the practice. I agreed. After taking the almost two hour &#8216;test&#8217;, I left. I began to feel slightly uncomfortable as I am a very private person, and I felt these questions/answers were exposing who I was just a bit too much. I disregarded the voice in my head that said &#8220;something is not right&#8221; and went into my first day of work the next Monday. As it happened, the dentist and his wife, the practice manager, were in Clearwater for training. I was given a binder, the biggest binder I had ever seen in my life, crammed full of page after page of policies I had to sign and agree to.  Again, this seemed quite strange to me as it was different than any first day of work I&#8217;ve ever had. As the day went on, I saw posters in the back that had &#8216;L. Ron Hubbard&#8217; written at the bottom. Not being very familiar with Scientology at that time, I took a mental note, but said nothing. I then began some training on how the dentist describes and names his instruments. This is typical as every dentist is different. I was practicing, and when my supervisor left the room, I happened to see a piece of paper on the counter. It was all about me. What type/color personality I had, what would motivate me, what would overwhelm me&#8230;.etc etc. The moment I read the things on that paper, I could feel my face getting all red, and something inside me boiling up. I was mad. &#8220;Who do you think you are telling me who I am?&#8221; I became extremely uncomfortable and wasn&#8217;t sure if I&#8217;d last the day, but I did. I went home and got on my laptop. I started searching for the &#8216;testing&#8217; they&#8217;d done on me and on Scientology in general. I stayed up all night, researching and coming to the conclusion that this was no religion, this was a cult. And I was now employed by people who were very involved with this cult and wanted me to be involved too.  I emailed the dentist the next morning and thanked him kindly for the opportunity, but that position was not a good fit for me. Well, let me say, things did not end there. With a normal position, an employer may ask why, but things would probably end there. Not in this case. I was called&#8211;incessantly&#8211;but I never responded. By now my heart and soul knew that I was dealing with a cult and there was no point interacting further. A classmate of mine did not head my warning and accepted a job there a while later and experienced similar things. She quit and was harassed in the same ways and worse, she was also followed, which forced to hide at my home. Disgusting practices of a cult. Until this experience I cannot say that I ever thought a business would be able to do things like this legally, but under the guise of religious freedom, they do. I will continue to support you, Leah, A&amp;E and everyone else who is involved with this movement you are creating. I am so thankful I had past experiences that gave me the intuition to stay far away from Scientology. I will also continue to pray for all who are still in Scientology. May God bless you all. You are in my prayers.</p>
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		By: L Yash		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-156041</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2016 19:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seems like Katie Holmes planned ahead of time, she waited for Cruise to be far away on location filming a new movie, and she made a quick escape from COS.  She well knew what was coming down the path, and that would have been for their little daughter Suri to go for her &quot;first auditing session&quot;....holding &quot;the cans&quot; while the Auditor probed her little mind to see if &quot;mommy had bad thoughts about DM or COS&quot;........brain washing her into complete loyalty and obedience to the COS cause. .Katie didn&#039;t want that to happen, nor did she want to lose complete control over her daughter.

One question I do have Mike is.....the required standard of education for children per the every state that  COS has &quot;churches&quot; in.....just HOW are the children of COS members educated?  Seems like many former members have stated that they have NO High School Diploma or real education.  Keeping the children under educated keeps them loyal to the cause, they don&#039;t know enough to get OUT or how to find a way out of their &quot;parent church&quot;.  Keeping the children living in fear that people on the outside are &quot;Evil&quot;, and the only true savior for their spiritual souls is and always will be COS.  

They take the parents funds away to prevent them from leaving as well, if you willing give ALL, as Ron M said...they walked away with a few dollars in their pocket. The ONLY thing to do would be to start life all over again when one is in their 40&#039;s, 50&#039;s, 60&#039;s, and all their retirement funds, IRA, bank accounts are drained. 

This is a sick society, where emotional and physical abuse is rampant.  There should NEVER be statute of limitations when it comes to child sexual abuse, and any adult who was physically assaulted, especially the physical assault that were witnessed should be able to prosecute the abuser. 

As I posted before....DM and the rest of the hierarchy will NEVER make true public appearances, they remain safely behind walls of their ivory tower while the rest of the COS who have escaped have to begin anew.....rebuilding their self esteem that&#039;s been ripped from them, and rebuilding their lives, knowing left behind are loved ones who have yet to realize what&#039;s REALLY going on....all too sad....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like Katie Holmes planned ahead of time, she waited for Cruise to be far away on location filming a new movie, and she made a quick escape from COS.  She well knew what was coming down the path, and that would have been for their little daughter Suri to go for her &#8220;first auditing session&#8221;&#8230;.holding &#8220;the cans&#8221; while the Auditor probed her little mind to see if &#8220;mommy had bad thoughts about DM or COS&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;..brain washing her into complete loyalty and obedience to the COS cause. .Katie didn&#8217;t want that to happen, nor did she want to lose complete control over her daughter.</p>
<p>One question I do have Mike is&#8230;..the required standard of education for children per the every state that  COS has &#8220;churches&#8221; in&#8230;..just HOW are the children of COS members educated?  Seems like many former members have stated that they have NO High School Diploma or real education.  Keeping the children under educated keeps them loyal to the cause, they don&#8217;t know enough to get OUT or how to find a way out of their &#8220;parent church&#8221;.  Keeping the children living in fear that people on the outside are &#8220;Evil&#8221;, and the only true savior for their spiritual souls is and always will be COS.  </p>
<p>They take the parents funds away to prevent them from leaving as well, if you willing give ALL, as Ron M said&#8230;they walked away with a few dollars in their pocket. The ONLY thing to do would be to start life all over again when one is in their 40&#8217;s, 50&#8217;s, 60&#8217;s, and all their retirement funds, IRA, bank accounts are drained. </p>
<p>This is a sick society, where emotional and physical abuse is rampant.  There should NEVER be statute of limitations when it comes to child sexual abuse, and any adult who was physically assaulted, especially the physical assault that were witnessed should be able to prosecute the abuser. </p>
<p>As I posted before&#8230;.DM and the rest of the hierarchy will NEVER make true public appearances, they remain safely behind walls of their ivory tower while the rest of the COS who have escaped have to begin anew&#8230;..rebuilding their self esteem that&#8217;s been ripped from them, and rebuilding their lives, knowing left behind are loved ones who have yet to realize what&#8217;s REALLY going on&#8230;.all too sad&#8230;.</p>
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		By: rogerHornaday		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2016 01:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-155726&quot;&gt;Julie Bonaduce&lt;/a&gt;.

It would be folly to try to paint an accurate portrait of one as complex as David Miscavige with just one person&#039;s biased opinion.  The man is an enigma to even the wisest of men and women.
Some say he is teaching us harsh lessons because his love is so great he wishes to shock us out of our self-imposed constraints.  Others say his benevolence is camouflaged  by his impatience with those who can&#039;t see his great vision for the future of the universe.   

Muffins Yingling says he is constantly apologizing for this failing and has awarded extravagant financial amends to everybody he fears he may have offended.  She says he has been deeply hurt by the unintentional treacheries of Mike and Leah and the rest of those who have been drugged and tortured by the Psychiatric Industrial Complex.  He understands what has been done to them and remembers them in his  prayers.  His sense of having failed them has caused him to drink immoderately on rare occasions. 

People just can&#039;t seem to agree about him except to say he is enchanting, that flowers bend toward him when he walks by and birds are drawn to fly over him where ever he goes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-155726">Julie Bonaduce</a>.</p>
<p>It would be folly to try to paint an accurate portrait of one as complex as David Miscavige with just one person&#8217;s biased opinion.  The man is an enigma to even the wisest of men and women.<br />
Some say he is teaching us harsh lessons because his love is so great he wishes to shock us out of our self-imposed constraints.  Others say his benevolence is camouflaged  by his impatience with those who can&#8217;t see his great vision for the future of the universe.   </p>
<p>Muffins Yingling says he is constantly apologizing for this failing and has awarded extravagant financial amends to everybody he fears he may have offended.  She says he has been deeply hurt by the unintentional treacheries of Mike and Leah and the rest of those who have been drugged and tortured by the Psychiatric Industrial Complex.  He understands what has been done to them and remembers them in his  prayers.  His sense of having failed them has caused him to drink immoderately on rare occasions. </p>
<p>People just can&#8217;t seem to agree about him except to say he is enchanting, that flowers bend toward him when he walks by and birds are drawn to fly over him where ever he goes.</p>
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		By: Mike Remeika		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2016 00:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-155062&quot;&gt;Gimpy&lt;/a&gt;.

I would like to respectfully comment on your statement that  &quot;virtually no one has any memory of living a past life&quot;.  You might be interested in books by Dr. Michael Newton titled &quot;Journey of Souls&quot; and &quot;Destiny of Souls&quot;.  In these books he shares the memories of people who were deeply hypnotized and asked questions about what happened to them the last time they died.  Fascinating reading.  I suggest you also check out the reviews for these books.  They are available on paper and Kindle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-155062">Gimpy</a>.</p>
<p>I would like to respectfully comment on your statement that  &#8220;virtually no one has any memory of living a past life&#8221;.  You might be interested in books by Dr. Michael Newton titled &#8220;Journey of Souls&#8221; and &#8220;Destiny of Souls&#8221;.  In these books he shares the memories of people who were deeply hypnotized and asked questions about what happened to them the last time they died.  Fascinating reading.  I suggest you also check out the reviews for these books.  They are available on paper and Kindle.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First, Thank You. I&#039;ve not had direct experience with Scientology, but I&#039;ve watched a similar brand of manipulation ruin the lives of people I love. In watching your A&#038;E special, and recently re-watching &quot;Going Clear,&quot; I had a question: Do you think Miscavige is fully aware of how absurd and dangerous all of this is? Is he a true believer in the doctrine, or is he desperately trying to protect his golden egg-laying goose? Is he honey and locusts, or P.T. Barnum? He has to be stopped either way, and I confess I&#039;d prefer he spend the rest of this - and every subsequent- lifetime being the special toy of an especially violent inmate named Dozer. I&#039;m just curious how much of his crime has been first degree - in full knowledge and awareness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, Thank You. I&#8217;ve not had direct experience with Scientology, but I&#8217;ve watched a similar brand of manipulation ruin the lives of people I love. In watching your A&amp;E special, and recently re-watching &#8220;Going Clear,&#8221; I had a question: Do you think Miscavige is fully aware of how absurd and dangerous all of this is? Is he a true believer in the doctrine, or is he desperately trying to protect his golden egg-laying goose? Is he honey and locusts, or P.T. Barnum? He has to be stopped either way, and I confess I&#8217;d prefer he spend the rest of this &#8211; and every subsequent- lifetime being the special toy of an especially violent inmate named Dozer. I&#8217;m just curious how much of his crime has been first degree &#8211; in full knowledge and awareness.</p>
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		By: L Yash		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2016 16:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-155542&quot;&gt;Kelly H.&lt;/a&gt;.

After doing some internet surfing I found COS in Philadelphia, PA.....never knew that before.  I viewed the website and listened to their &quot;sales pitch&quot; &#038; can understand how someone who might be &quot;looking for something&quot; can easily be sucked into this.  
I can only imagine the amount of money the top money making celebs have &quot;donated&quot; to COS.  If Leah it costs her says millions and others say hundreds of thousands to stay in the good graces of the COS and &quot;move up the bridge, that&#039;s mind boggling.
More frightening is the type of information COS has in it&#039;s files to use at their OWN discretion against some of these top money making celebs.....information that could be extremely damaging to their personal life.  The COS would certainly use that highly personal information from their &quot;auditing sessions&quot; against these people, and that is certainly horrific.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-155542">Kelly H.</a>.</p>
<p>After doing some internet surfing I found COS in Philadelphia, PA&#8230;..never knew that before.  I viewed the website and listened to their &#8220;sales pitch&#8221; &amp; can understand how someone who might be &#8220;looking for something&#8221; can easily be sucked into this.<br />
I can only imagine the amount of money the top money making celebs have &#8220;donated&#8221; to COS.  If Leah it costs her says millions and others say hundreds of thousands to stay in the good graces of the COS and &#8220;move up the bridge, that&#8217;s mind boggling.<br />
More frightening is the type of information COS has in it&#8217;s files to use at their OWN discretion against some of these top money making celebs&#8230;..information that could be extremely damaging to their personal life.  The COS would certainly use that highly personal information from their &#8220;auditing sessions&#8221; against these people, and that is certainly horrific.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have really enjoyed this show and have gotten several friends to watch as well.  A huge new Scientology center was recently opened about a mile from my house in Atlanta and what do you know, a postcard plugging Dianetics came in the mail this week!!  

Keep up the good fight, I admire both of you for taking on this organization, I really hope this series motivates authorities to ask their own questions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have really enjoyed this show and have gotten several friends to watch as well.  A huge new Scientology center was recently opened about a mile from my house in Atlanta and what do you know, a postcard plugging Dianetics came in the mail this week!!  </p>
<p>Keep up the good fight, I admire both of you for taking on this organization, I really hope this series motivates authorities to ask their own questions.</p>
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		By: JPF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 04:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-155126&quot;&gt;Harpoona Frittata&lt;/a&gt;.

Is he still alive?]]></description>
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<p>Is he still alive?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 04:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-155132&quot;&gt;Mary Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you so much. What about the elder abuse issues I&#039;ve been reading about? It seems that the way aging sea org members are (mis)treated is something advocacy groups (like AARP) and social service agencies should be taking a hard look at. Does scientology collect Medicare/Medicaid money for their care?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-special-aftermath/#comment-155132">Mary Smith</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you so much. What about the elder abuse issues I&#8217;ve been reading about? It seems that the way aging sea org members are (mis)treated is something advocacy groups (like AARP) and social service agencies should be taking a hard look at. Does scientology collect Medicare/Medicaid money for their care?</p>
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