Hi Dio – you know what, I looked up the conference that you’re referring to, earlier this year, while getting caught up on what has been ‘happening’ in the 35 or so years that I have been ‘away’ and I noticed that there is a Spike who was at that conference! What are the chances?? Anyway it must have been that person who you spoke with, not me. If they start commenting on this blog, I’ll have to adjust my handle. Maybe I will anyway, time for a little change. Thanks for bringing this up. Maybe I’ll meet you in person sometime.

Richard,

I like your assessment and summation. Very succinct and complete.

Spike,

Remember me from Toronto: “Getting Clear” conference in 2105?

I began talking to you, at the beginning, (that was Monday am) and we had just a few minutes of words, then the whole show got busy and we had to stop talking…..

I never had a chance to get back to you, until I think it was Wednesday am break.

I saw you were sitting by yourself, for once, so I sat in the chair in front of you, and turned around to talk to you, and you asked me:

So, what is your story?, and I began to tell you, and a few minutes later we were cut off again by the show.

And at that time you were so exhausted and stiff, you were barely hanging on to consciousness. I saw that you could barely stand and walk. Same with Jim Beverly. You were both walking at about a 40 degree angle, when you did. Others were in similar condition…

I was getting close to that too. And the conference was only half over.

I could not afford to stay any longer, but at the same time, If I could afford it, I could not handle it, mentally and physically. I had more than enough. So I left for home. Good thing I only lived about 2 -3 hrs by bus away. (Or an hr by car in good traffic.)

I often wondered if Jim paid all you old time scientologists’ expenses to come there?

Dio

Richard, no, that IS funny (and absurd).

I can’t resist making one more comment. Dio went into a “church” seeking “spiritual salvation” and got his ass kicked out the door! – laughter! – Sorry, I guess I have an odd sense of humor. Sometimes the total absurdities of life strike me funny. Keep up the good work, Dio.

Dio – Thank you for the interesting and humorous (in hindsight) reply. That was quite a glorious exit from the official CoS! I’ll leave it at that to not overburden Mike with back dated replies. I hope other people read your story here since you had quite a different path in scn than most of us. We’ll talk in the future.

Richard

Excellent point, Brunerd!

Have you see this:

https://www.facebook.com/ToryMagoo44/posts/10159471014305577?comment_id=10159472888210577

Dio

Richard,

The Free Spirit Journal was a magazine, that to the best of my understanding, was first put together by Mark Jones sometimes in the 80s.

Mark was a very intelligent man. He was a fighter pilot for the US airforce.
He was a right hand wing man for John Glenn.

Mark realized that all the people leaving scn needed a common comm line.

So he came up with the idea for the magazine and began publishing it.

Then he gave the project to Hank Levin, sometimes in the 90s, I think.

To very briefly explain:

I learned about the Free Spirit Journal from someone I met in San Antonio, while on a business trip attending a trade show and conference.

Long story short, I learned about the dianetics book from a TV commercial on Good Friday of 97 about 10:20 AM. Just prior to 10 AM, I was very sick mentally and physically (and had been so for some yrs) and was seriously contemplating suicide. That is the very short story. Got a demo on Easter Sunday, in Toronto, (had a good release that lasted about an hour which really amazed me, and I was hooked) and took two intro courses the following weekend, (which I also had good wins from them) and that was when I realized the place was coo coo, and indirectly began letting them know that.

The course supervisors were really fucked in the head, crazy/insane, and that really rattled me.

After I began to put up resistance to their insane supervision methods (at the time I knew something was wrong, but had not wrapped my head around it yet, and was very frighted and restimulated and nervous and afraid) one of the things that they had me do, is to watch a video of DM ranting about something. And after I watched it, they asked me what I thought of him. I said, I think there is something wrong with him. That did not go over well with them.

The problem was: I was confused. I had an amazing win from the bk 1 demo, and really got a lot out of the two intro courses, and I was already getting better. At the time, I had as much hope as one could have to get better.

But I wondered how come the auditing was such an amazing thing and the course data was so good, but everyone in the org (staff) was still crazy, coo coo, even after being there for many yrs? That really puzzled me?

Then I was later sent to qual (he had a certificate of service for 19 yrs on the wall) and I asked him, if scn was so good (because I already had several wins) why there was still something wrong with him?

He totally blew up. He shouted, that;s enough! Threw his chair back and jumped up and almost hit the ceiling. And shouted to me to wait and not go anywhere, until he came back, and stormed out of the room and returned an hour and half later with a PTS declare. It was not funny then, but in hindsight, it was hilarious.

Before being escorted out of the building, they sold me 4 homestudy courses, which I gladly paid for.

I took them home and devoured them for the next two months. Did them each two or three times. Totally amazing!

Then five months later, while at the conference in San Antonio, I met someone who, I really got to talking with. He was very interesting. He seemed to know just about everything. Then I asked him if he ever heard of scn? At that point, he changed his tone and attitude, and became very leary of who I was?

I could see that he did not really want anything to do with me. So as quickly as I could, I told him that I got in to scn back in April, and after a couple of weeks was thrown out.

Long story short, he regained his composure and we continued talking, with him asking me careful questions. He told me he as never in the cos, but was part of a private dianetics auditing group. He told me some of the story of the church and told me that about 30,000 people left the cos in the 80s and they had their own magazine, called the Free Spirit Journal. And his most recent copy arrived in the mail the day he left to the conference. And said if I wanted it, he would send it to me, when he got back home and I said yes, I do. He did send it. I received it the following Friday. I eagerly read it and found it to be a gold mine of interesting articles on tech by people who did a lot of the bridge while in the church and left.

And there were 9 ads by auditors advertising their auditing services.

So I called them all and left messages and the only one who returned my call was Bob Ross. Bob was a very interesting man and a very good auditor. After almost 40 yrs in the cos he became frustrated with everything. He was not getting good results with standard tech auditing and developed his own process.

I had incredible wins from his phone auditing.

Google: bob ross freezone scientology, to learn more.

Back to the FSJ:

Hank Levin, published the magazine until around 2000, then gave it to a guy who worked for Alan Walters with his Knowledgism. The guy published one or two issues and gave up it.

It is now totally defunct.

I am not aware of any record on line of it.

In about 98, I asked Hank, if he had copies of all the back issues? And he said he most of them, so I bought them. There were only about 2 or 3 missing. They were full of very interesting articles of all kinds from many great minds of old timers. I read them all a few times.

Through that magazine I met a lot of people.

In that issue that was sent to me, I saw an add by Mark Jones, advertising his collection of scn books and tapes for sale. I called Mark and we talked for a long while. He told me lots of stories. And I bought his collection. Pretty much complete. I devoured those books and tapes too.

That was basically my “bridge”.

He died a yr or two or three later.

That is the very short story.

Dio

Hi Dio – I don’t recall any of the people you mentioned. I googled Free Spirit Journal and it says the site is under construction so I don’t know if it’s the same group you mentioned.

Who knows where channeling comes from. A lot of what the entities say are generalities but some of it is rather profound imo, particularly coming from, let’s say, an “average” person doing the channeling.

We listened to some Ramtha tapes. He gained some fame by being promoted by the actress Linda Evans. Another entity was a Dr. Peebles whom I enjoyed. On one of the tapes group of blown OTs had recruited him and was grilling him on whether some of the things on the OT levels were real or not but he hedged and wouldn’t commit. I guess it’s not the job of an entity to make anyone right or wrong. – haha – He went on to expound about other possibilities in the universe and mentioned that he and a group of entities would occasionally gather together to decide how best to impart their knowledge to we humans.

I’ve yet to become a total realist – laughter

Hi Richard,

Re: Exodus of the 80s:

Did you know Mark Jones, Bob Ross, and Hank Levin?

I did not learn about scn until 1997.

But I got the Free Spirit Journal and connected with those guys through it.

I listened to a lot of channeled tapes too, during the 80s, mostly Ramtha and Lazarus. There were a couple more, but I do not remember the names at the moment.

Actually learned quite a bit from them.

Dio