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		By: Brian Thomas Lambert		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-588299</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2024 14:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-588222&quot;&gt;Christopher&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Christopher! No I cannot. Scientology is now a long forgotten memory. I just remember how it was used in our jargon with each other like being griefy, being open minded and being reasonable. 

I just remember these were terms, weaponized language, that de-legitimized a person in some way. Invalidated them, to use the old terminology, like being an SP - anyone who question church doctrine and head implanter. 

He was master of redefining words. Read my essays on how he redefined the word ethics, grief, accountable, sympathy. If you type in my name Brian Lambert in search field you’ll be able to read many concepts Hubbard dehumanized and definitionally raped. 

Thanks for your question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-588222">Christopher</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Christopher! No I cannot. Scientology is now a long forgotten memory. I just remember how it was used in our jargon with each other like being griefy, being open minded and being reasonable. </p>
<p>I just remember these were terms, weaponized language, that de-legitimized a person in some way. Invalidated them, to use the old terminology, like being an SP &#8211; anyone who question church doctrine and head implanter. </p>
<p>He was master of redefining words. Read my essays on how he redefined the word ethics, grief, accountable, sympathy. If you type in my name Brian Lambert in search field you’ll be able to read many concepts Hubbard dehumanized and definitionally raped. </p>
<p>Thanks for your question.</p>
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		By: Christopher		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2024 12:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169014&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting, in my copy of the Tech Dictionary, there is no definition of reasonableness.
Can you direct me to where the quotes came from?

Thanks,
C.C.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169014">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting, in my copy of the Tech Dictionary, there is no definition of reasonableness.<br />
Can you direct me to where the quotes came from?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
C.C.</p>
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		By: What was the cult &#8220;est&#8221; like? &#8211; Counselling Resources		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 15:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] your family and friends anyway because they are suffering from “reasonableness” [being &#8220;reasonable&#8221; is also considered to be bad in [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] your family and friends anyway because they are suffering from “reasonableness” [being &#8220;reasonable&#8221; is also considered to be bad in [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169442</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2017 03:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169292&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree, there is criminal insanity in Hubbard. He did not mind destroying people. Just ask Paulette Cooper.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169292">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>I agree, there is criminal insanity in Hubbard. He did not mind destroying people. Just ask Paulette Cooper.</p>
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		By: Countmeinthetan		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169357</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2017 13:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169292&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

A show of hands for you, Mike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169292">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>A show of hands for you, Mike.</p>
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		By: Linda Snyder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169343</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2017 08:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169044&quot;&gt;Gimpy&lt;/a&gt;.

Being reasonable is BAD! Well that makes all the sense in the world for LRH to not, want people to be reasonable. That would require them to listen to others- but also to make their own conclusions. We will have none of that here.... we only want &quot;listening&quot;, no &quot;thinking&quot;, that is just a waste of our money, ummm, I mean time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169044">Gimpy</a>.</p>
<p>Being reasonable is BAD! Well that makes all the sense in the world for LRH to not, want people to be reasonable. That would require them to listen to others- but also to make their own conclusions. We will have none of that here&#8230;. we only want &#8220;listening&#8221;, no &#8220;thinking&#8221;, that is just a waste of our money, ummm, I mean time.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 20:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169265&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

Brian, what actually causes the guy to strap on a bomb or tell a person to yell at an ashtray to communicate better or a legislator to pass a law requiring people to personally DO something which violates his liberty is the belief that one knows what is good for another BETTER than that person themselves.  It is arrogance to the point of criminal insanity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169265">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>Brian, what actually causes the guy to strap on a bomb or tell a person to yell at an ashtray to communicate better or a legislator to pass a law requiring people to personally DO something which violates his liberty is the belief that one knows what is good for another BETTER than that person themselves.  It is arrogance to the point of criminal insanity.</p>
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		By: rogerHornaday		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169285</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 20:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169265&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

That &#039;desire to do good&#039; has paved so many roads to hell.  I believe that is because vanity and other self-aggrandizing impulses infiltrate the non-inquiring mind.  A non-inquiring mind is disinterested in exploring its true motives.  It is disinclined to go beyond the comfort zone of beliefs.  That is a universal human tendency.  That tendency prevails in some people and is surmounted by others.  As Nietzsche said, &quot;There are two different types of people in the world, those who want to know and those who want to believe&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169265">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>That &#8216;desire to do good&#8217; has paved so many roads to hell.  I believe that is because vanity and other self-aggrandizing impulses infiltrate the non-inquiring mind.  A non-inquiring mind is disinterested in exploring its true motives.  It is disinclined to go beyond the comfort zone of beliefs.  That is a universal human tendency.  That tendency prevails in some people and is surmounted by others.  As Nietzsche said, &#8220;There are two different types of people in the world, those who want to know and those who want to believe&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 17:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169033&quot;&gt;rogerHornaday&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Rog, you said:

&quot;What is the bait and what is the appetite that makes possible this terrible phenomenon?&quot;

Wrong knowledge and a desire to do good. 

What causes an ISIS kid to strap on a bomb ? What he was taught; knowledge 

What causes a GO/OSA goon to harm others? What he studied in course; wrong knowledge. 

Ideologies, studied information assumed as true, without the individual having an education in reason, logic and independent thought, belief in self, is what makes fertile soil for mindless adherence to wrong or delusional knowledge. 

Add to that that Hubbard knew he had miles of altitude over us and was able to instill in us whatever knowledge he deemed fit to protect his power and paying customers. 

He was and is granted infallibility by his disciples. Assigning absolute infallibility to anyone is the death of reason and common sense. 
Then minions will act against common standards of decency and consider it the right thing to do. 

In the ultimate sense, lack of true self knowledge, lack of true confident self perception, makes us vulnerable to plausible but fallacious realities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169033">rogerHornaday</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Rog, you said:</p>
<p>&#8220;What is the bait and what is the appetite that makes possible this terrible phenomenon?&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong knowledge and a desire to do good. </p>
<p>What causes an ISIS kid to strap on a bomb ? What he was taught; knowledge </p>
<p>What causes a GO/OSA goon to harm others? What he studied in course; wrong knowledge. </p>
<p>Ideologies, studied information assumed as true, without the individual having an education in reason, logic and independent thought, belief in self, is what makes fertile soil for mindless adherence to wrong or delusional knowledge. </p>
<p>Add to that that Hubbard knew he had miles of altitude over us and was able to instill in us whatever knowledge he deemed fit to protect his power and paying customers. </p>
<p>He was and is granted infallibility by his disciples. Assigning absolute infallibility to anyone is the death of reason and common sense.<br />
Then minions will act against common standards of decency and consider it the right thing to do. </p>
<p>In the ultimate sense, lack of true self knowledge, lack of true confident self perception, makes us vulnerable to plausible but fallacious realities.</p>
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		By: T-Marie		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169167</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T-Marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169014&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re right, Brian. Pulling these points out of the bazillions of words that flew out of his mouth, makes that very very clear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-reason/#comment-169014">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, Brian. Pulling these points out of the bazillions of words that flew out of his mouth, makes that very very clear.</p>
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