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		By: Getting Ethics In		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-358825</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2020 18:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An appropriate post today for this news flash. 

I am writing up this Knowledge Report on Scientology for exploiting vulnerable Veterans  who trust Scientology is safe because they went to a CHURCH for help and we’re manipulated out of their inheritance and financial stability. 

Today we will delve into the vulnerable Veteran who had Shock treatments
It will expose  Scientology’ Illegal PC  Scam and how the poor Illegal PC’s get scammed by Scientologists 

Scientologist registrars are highly trained in the art of deception.  They are skilled at fraud and manipulation and these poor fools who don’t know that - get scammed out of a lot of money.  

A long time St Louis Scientologist, Mike Wegener, is one such person.   Here are some facts: 

1.  Mike Wegener was a Veteran who had Electric Shock.  He announced this story at many Ideal Org fundraising events 
After the treatment he said he was not doing well. 
2.  He heard an ad on the radio about Scientology   and / or Dianetics and went to the Org and signed up for services.
3.  He was sold a lot of Bridge Auditing.   After they got his money, he was then told he could not have auditing.  
4.  His parents hated Scientology and left him a nice inheritance.  Around one million dollars.  His parents did not want him to spend that money on Scientology. 
5. Right before he got the inheritance,  Mike got married and went through a difficult divorce. 
 6.  During that vulnerable time, Mike was trying to get help from Scientology.  
7.  One of the executives on Staff at St Louis Org,  Matt Hanses, regged Mike for a lot of money.  Mike managed to pay for a house with some of the money but Scientology got the rest of it.
8.  At one point, during the Ideal Org Frantic Fiasco,  Matt Hanses and Executive Director, Chad Lane, manipulates  Mike into becoming “The Catalyst“.  To become the first St Louis Scientologist to donate $100,000 and become a humanitarian.  
9.  Mike, starved for attention and admiration, bought into it.  They called him  “ The Catylyst”.    He would dress up in a tuxedo and they would parade him from Org to Org trotting him out on the stage so he could tell his scary Psych story.
10.  The tragedy was he would tell people at events that he did it because he wanted his parents to come back and HAVE an Ideal Org to go to.  
Over a relative short period of time, Scientology got his entire inheritance.  

After that, the Planetary Clearing team from Los Angeles called Mike and over the phone got him to take out a mortgage on his PAID OFF home and got another $50-60,000.  

Now Mike has debt.  He was a millionaire.  

At some point, the  ASHO Regges called Mike and got more money out him promising he could have auditing in LA.  

When he got out to LA, they got him in session 
( just enough to debit his account) and then pulled him out and sent him to the MAA, where he was told he was an Illegal PC.  No auditing allowed.  

Some Registrar from Scientology told him if he bought all of the Basics, ACC’s or bunch of books and lectures, they would award him the Kha-Khan status.  He believed them.  

This continued until they brought Mike to financial ruin.  Mike recently had to sell his house and has some type of lawsuit from Bank of America.  

This is what the criminal Organization of Scientology does to our veterans.  
Scientology; Exploiting the vulnerable for financial gain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An appropriate post today for this news flash. </p>
<p>I am writing up this Knowledge Report on Scientology for exploiting vulnerable Veterans  who trust Scientology is safe because they went to a CHURCH for help and we’re manipulated out of their inheritance and financial stability. </p>
<p>Today we will delve into the vulnerable Veteran who had Shock treatments<br />
It will expose  Scientology’ Illegal PC  Scam and how the poor Illegal PC’s get scammed by Scientologists </p>
<p>Scientologist registrars are highly trained in the art of deception.  They are skilled at fraud and manipulation and these poor fools who don’t know that &#8211; get scammed out of a lot of money.  </p>
<p>A long time St Louis Scientologist, Mike Wegener, is one such person.   Here are some facts: </p>
<p>1.  Mike Wegener was a Veteran who had Electric Shock.  He announced this story at many Ideal Org fundraising events<br />
After the treatment he said he was not doing well.<br />
2.  He heard an ad on the radio about Scientology   and / or Dianetics and went to the Org and signed up for services.<br />
3.  He was sold a lot of Bridge Auditing.   After they got his money, he was then told he could not have auditing.<br />
4.  His parents hated Scientology and left him a nice inheritance.  Around one million dollars.  His parents did not want him to spend that money on Scientology.<br />
5. Right before he got the inheritance,  Mike got married and went through a difficult divorce.<br />
 6.  During that vulnerable time, Mike was trying to get help from Scientology.<br />
7.  One of the executives on Staff at St Louis Org,  Matt Hanses, regged Mike for a lot of money.  Mike managed to pay for a house with some of the money but Scientology got the rest of it.<br />
8.  At one point, during the Ideal Org Frantic Fiasco,  Matt Hanses and Executive Director, Chad Lane, manipulates  Mike into becoming “The Catalyst“.  To become the first St Louis Scientologist to donate $100,000 and become a humanitarian.<br />
9.  Mike, starved for attention and admiration, bought into it.  They called him  “ The Catylyst”.    He would dress up in a tuxedo and they would parade him from Org to Org trotting him out on the stage so he could tell his scary Psych story.<br />
10.  The tragedy was he would tell people at events that he did it because he wanted his parents to come back and HAVE an Ideal Org to go to.<br />
Over a relative short period of time, Scientology got his entire inheritance.  </p>
<p>After that, the Planetary Clearing team from Los Angeles called Mike and over the phone got him to take out a mortgage on his PAID OFF home and got another $50-60,000.  </p>
<p>Now Mike has debt.  He was a millionaire.  </p>
<p>At some point, the  ASHO Regges called Mike and got more money out him promising he could have auditing in LA.  </p>
<p>When he got out to LA, they got him in session<br />
( just enough to debit his account) and then pulled him out and sent him to the MAA, where he was told he was an Illegal PC.  No auditing allowed.  </p>
<p>Some Registrar from Scientology told him if he bought all of the Basics, ACC’s or bunch of books and lectures, they would award him the Kha-Khan status.  He believed them.  </p>
<p>This continued until they brought Mike to financial ruin.  Mike recently had to sell his house and has some type of lawsuit from Bank of America.  </p>
<p>This is what the criminal Organization of Scientology does to our veterans.<br />
Scientology; Exploiting the vulnerable for financial gain.</p>
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		By: The Dark Triad		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-358751</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] commenter Mike Westen has written a follow up article on his blog to his earlier Scientology and Status, entitled The Dark [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] commenter Mike Westen has written a follow up article on his blog to his earlier Scientology and Status, entitled The Dark [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: More OT VIII Malarkey		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-298668</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2019 12:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] This is all part of the big status game in scientology &#8212; so well explained in Mike Westen&#8217;s recent posting Scientology and Status. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This is all part of the big status game in scientology &#8212; so well explained in Mike Westen&#8217;s recent posting Scientology and Status. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297528</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297505&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Right.  Like &quot;normal&quot; people killing their children then killing themselves because a cult leaders tells them to.

I remember Mission public at the bottom of the bridge saying crap like &quot;it doesn&#039;t matter if I drive wildly because I&#039;ll just pick up another baby body if I kill myself.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297505">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Right.  Like &#8220;normal&#8221; people killing their children then killing themselves because a cult leaders tells them to.</p>
<p>I remember Mission public at the bottom of the bridge saying crap like &#8220;it doesn&#8217;t matter if I drive wildly because I&#8217;ll just pick up another baby body if I kill myself.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297507</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297353&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

PeaceMaker - Different places, different times, different experiences.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297353">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>PeaceMaker &#8211; Different places, different times, different experiences.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297505</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2019 11:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297403&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

OK Wynski - I kinda get what you&#039;re saying. People in cults often do weird shit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297403">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>OK Wynski &#8211; I kinda get what you&#8217;re saying. People in cults often do weird shit.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297432</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297403&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course I had no personal knowledge of what Hubtard was like. WHO DID?  What&#039;s the point? I saw what I saw and you saw what you saw.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297403">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Of course I had no personal knowledge of what Hubtard was like. WHO DID?  What&#8217;s the point? I saw what I saw and you saw what you saw.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2019 23:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297289&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Nope, the &quot;them&quot; in &#039;83 were public. And the ones watching Hubtard have people injured were a mix of public and staff.

 Like I said you had an EXTREMELY limited contact with scamologists during your short time in and ZERO personal knowledge of Hubtard and what he was like.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297289">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Nope, the &#8220;them&#8221; in &#8217;83 were public. And the ones watching Hubtard have people injured were a mix of public and staff.</p>
<p> Like I said you had an EXTREMELY limited contact with scamologists during your short time in and ZERO personal knowledge of Hubtard and what he was like.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297387</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2019 20:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297353&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

PeaceMaker - Wynski&#039;s 1983 group which got jacked up over &quot;Mission Earth&quot; had already accepted the second round of price increases and probably the Mission Massacre. They were ripe fruit for the picking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297353">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>PeaceMaker &#8211; Wynski&#8217;s 1983 group which got jacked up over &#8220;Mission Earth&#8221; had already accepted the second round of price increases and probably the Mission Massacre. They were ripe fruit for the picking.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297293&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard, keep in mind that you probably came along after the original &quot;shithead&quot; Hubbard started monthly price increases in the mid 1970s, and then had to back off on them.  Much of what went on in the 1980s was just rooted in older Hubbard policies and practices.

By the way, it comes back to me that an old timer who did international finances under Hubbard, said that income started to go down precipitously in 1973 - just when the baby boomer youth movement was starting to go bust.  A couple of years after that, Hubbard instituted the first 5% monthly prince increases (10% in the UK), supposedly to compensate for inflation - even though inflation was only averaging about 6% a year.  

Also, when I searched for the date of the first monthly price increases, I found reference to a mid-1960s price increase that had been calculated on the basis of what Hubbard and his advisers thought was the maximum that people could bear, not on the cost of delivering services - and which had to be rolled back after it was received very badly.  It seems that about once a decade Hubbard or his minions attempted an extortionate price increase, perhaps tied to the typical high turnover which meant that few still around remembered the last disastrous attempt.

In the big picture, it&#039;s clear that people had different experiences in Scientology depending on where they were, and when they were in - and perhaps what they did or did not want to see, or remember.  It&#039;s a bit like the classic example of the blind men and the elephant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-status/#comment-297293">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Richard, keep in mind that you probably came along after the original &#8220;shithead&#8221; Hubbard started monthly price increases in the mid 1970s, and then had to back off on them.  Much of what went on in the 1980s was just rooted in older Hubbard policies and practices.</p>
<p>By the way, it comes back to me that an old timer who did international finances under Hubbard, said that income started to go down precipitously in 1973 &#8211; just when the baby boomer youth movement was starting to go bust.  A couple of years after that, Hubbard instituted the first 5% monthly prince increases (10% in the UK), supposedly to compensate for inflation &#8211; even though inflation was only averaging about 6% a year.  </p>
<p>Also, when I searched for the date of the first monthly price increases, I found reference to a mid-1960s price increase that had been calculated on the basis of what Hubbard and his advisers thought was the maximum that people could bear, not on the cost of delivering services &#8211; and which had to be rolled back after it was received very badly.  It seems that about once a decade Hubbard or his minions attempted an extortionate price increase, perhaps tied to the typical high turnover which meant that few still around remembered the last disastrous attempt.</p>
<p>In the big picture, it&#8217;s clear that people had different experiences in Scientology depending on where they were, and when they were in &#8211; and perhaps what they did or did not want to see, or remember.  It&#8217;s a bit like the classic example of the blind men and the elephant.</p>
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