Very interesting. I have recently been studying the work of Cameron Day at Ascensionhelp.com about this very subject.

Its not necessarily eternal happiness and this is certainly not paradise.

I made a mistake on a link. The correct one is: http://www.pilgrimpromo.com/WAR. The WAR stands for Wyatt Archeological Research. Sorry about that.

That’s not the same boy, that’s not the same book. For the second link you gave, I’m being blocked from the first. I’ll keep trying on that one.

The quote is: “What is true for you, is true. Unless it contradicts El Con or another CoS executive.”

Absolutely correct, FG. The HCOB on PTS R/D correction was what I was reading when I realized that I had known her before. Then in the PTS R/D I did the L&N and did quad ruds and overts on both terminals. It was one of the rare times that the Church came through with the tech just in time.
Though they saved my life with LRH tech, that did not give them the right to kill me later with what all they did.
That is probably a major reason people go along with the suppressive bullshit that the Church puts out now; they have had some good wins and now if they don’t toe the line they think that they will lose them.
Surely if the Church threatened their eternity in the beginning it would have no effect because at that point nobody realizes they even have an eternity to lose.

wait, I think I mis-quoted Hubbard about “what’s true for you”… anyone know the exact, correct quote? Please correct me.. thanks! 🙂

Oh Dear Ms. Linda, I’m so sorry to be the one to burst your bubble so to speak, but in 2015 that book was shown to be a fraud, and the child, whose father is a Pastor, recanted his story… he said he made it all up under pressure from his father. The book publishers have pulled this title and stores have returned their copies… here are a couple of news links: http://pulpitandpen.org/2015/01/13/the-boy-who-came-back-from-heaven-recants-story-rebukes-christian-retailers/ and http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/01/15/377589757/boy-says-he-didn-t-go-to-heaven-publisher-says-it-will-pull-book

Now, please still be of good cheer, just because one person fabricated a tale, doesn’t mean that heaven doesn’t exist. There is no “scientific proof” of it as of this moment, but many people have faith.
Believe what your conscience tells you, and my motto is “live and let live”. I respect other’s beliefs and in return expect them to respect mine. For Scientologists: L.Ron Hubbard said “what’s true for you is true”. I don’t happen to be a Scientologist though.

Reincarnation is within the realm of possibilities in my belief structure, and I believe we have a soul, consisting of many layers, perhaps from past lives. But I have no proof, so this is my own particular belief or faith.

What happens after we leave this life, I don’t know. I’d like to think there is a “better place” but until there is proof, I’m going to say the jury is out on this one. In case this present life is all there is for us, I’m being as good a person as I can in order to hopefully make a positive impact on the world and other beings, and leave this world and society a little better for my having lived. Sorry about the book. – T.J.

TJ,I am bad to the bone.I’ve got to go find my poetry hat and my first one will be for you.Sometimes I would like to clone myself and tell me to go do all the stuff I keep shoving to the back of my closet!Thank you for your comment,hubby is a never in too so I understand where you are coming from.My admission that I have no quarrel with auditing outside of dm,is a very recent revelation for me.I am glad because I have a much sharper view of the abuses that the cult allows.As you said,Disconnection,Fair Gaming,IAS,and the chase for the never ending stream of cash for dm and his celeb whales.And the exploitation of young ones that cos continues to promote like the Harpi promo pieces from Scotland.Disgusting!❤️❤️U

hi Ann B! 🙂 It’s always nice to hear from you. I like how you speak your mind, and so honestly, yet are still so nice and kind, you’ve got a gentle and loving way about you that is pleasant and uplifting. I’m always encouraged to hear that people did, and sometimes still do, find value in their experiences with Scientology. I’ve always felt that it’s cool that a group of people want (or wanted) to change the world for the better, and improve the lives of others. I admire that. I have nothing against anyone searching for meaning in their lives and in unconventional ways. I’ve never ridiculed anyone for their beliefs or good intentions or judged anyone for their actions that were done in good faith.

But the group as ruled by the “Church”, the institution or organization is another thing entirely, and I cannot recommend Scientology as a whole due to the factors I named above, one of which is the toxic policy of disconnection, as you stated. Another big problem is the criminal, unethical and harmful actions taken against others.

Best wishes to you for a happy day! Love, T.J.

By the way, where are the poems you promised? I’d love to read some of your original creations.