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		By: smokkee911		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 11:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266815&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Skyler

Not a problem! It&#039;s not always easy, only reading text, to gauge the intended tone. And being relatively new around here and mostly just a lurker no one knows (yet??) how sarcastic my sense of humour can be. ;-)

I&#039;m sorry you had a bad day.  I hope that&#039;s all over and done with or it will be soon. *hug*

Ok, humour...here&#039;s one just for you...

A man hits the back of a car sitting at a traffic light.

DM get out of the hit car and says, “I’m NOT happy!!”

The man said, “Well which one of the dwarfs are you then?”

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266815">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Skyler</p>
<p>Not a problem! It&#8217;s not always easy, only reading text, to gauge the intended tone. And being relatively new around here and mostly just a lurker no one knows (yet??) how sarcastic my sense of humour can be. 😉</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you had a bad day.  I hope that&#8217;s all over and done with or it will be soon. *hug*</p>
<p>Ok, humour&#8230;here&#8217;s one just for you&#8230;</p>
<p>A man hits the back of a car sitting at a traffic light.</p>
<p>DM get out of the hit car and says, “I’m NOT happy!!”</p>
<p>The man said, “Well which one of the dwarfs are you then?”</p>
<p>;-D</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266524&quot;&gt;smokkee911&lt;/a&gt;.

I should have known better. Yesterday was a bad day for me. I got scammed by a bunch of tiny orgs - nothing to do with The Scam - but I&#039;ll tell you about it some other time. 

I even got the spelling of your name wrong. Sorry. But I appreciate your humor. I appreciate every attempt at humor when dealing with this monstrosity. Pls keep that up?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266524">smokkee911</a>.</p>
<p>I should have known better. Yesterday was a bad day for me. I got scammed by a bunch of tiny orgs &#8211; nothing to do with The Scam &#8211; but I&#8217;ll tell you about it some other time. </p>
<p>I even got the spelling of your name wrong. Sorry. But I appreciate your humor. I appreciate every attempt at humor when dealing with this monstrosity. Pls keep that up?</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266664</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2019 20:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266623&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Good Lord.  What a horrible woman!  I was amusing myself with over-the-top satire.  A mother like this actually EXISTS?  Thank you, God, for making me an orphan.   And, yes, I, too, give continual, DEEP thanks that I&#039;m out, that  you&#039;re out, that we here are all out and no longer in contact with &quot;the most ethical people on the planet&quot;.   Truly, its &quot;1984&quot; in the cult.  George Orwell&#039;s vision lives.]]></description>
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<p>Good Lord.  What a horrible woman!  I was amusing myself with over-the-top satire.  A mother like this actually EXISTS?  Thank you, God, for making me an orphan.   And, yes, I, too, give continual, DEEP thanks that I&#8217;m out, that  you&#8217;re out, that we here are all out and no longer in contact with &#8220;the most ethical people on the planet&#8221;.   Truly, its &#8220;1984&#8221; in the cult.  George Orwell&#8217;s vision lives.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2019 16:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266296&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aquamarine, you really captured Lydia Hopwood, the Scn shrill shill.  I know her personally and she is a piece of work.  She is a second generation Scn and her son is now a 3rd generation Scn.  She would love nothing better than for him to join the SO so she doesn&#039;t have to worry about raising him more and paying for college for him. Who knows, Nick Hopwood might even be in the SO even now as we speak.  You really captured her mindset and personality spot on.  I&#039;m so glad I&#039;m out and away from all that BS now.]]></description>
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<p>Aquamarine, you really captured Lydia Hopwood, the Scn shrill shill.  I know her personally and she is a piece of work.  She is a second generation Scn and her son is now a 3rd generation Scn.  She would love nothing better than for him to join the SO so she doesn&#8217;t have to worry about raising him more and paying for college for him. Who knows, Nick Hopwood might even be in the SO even now as we speak.  You really captured her mindset and personality spot on.  I&#8217;m so glad I&#8217;m out and away from all that BS now.</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2019 05:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The kids don&#039;t know what they&#039;re signing up for. Unfortunately, their parents do not know (or tell themselves to not know), either.

Sadly, ex-victims do know. Some have told the stories of their lives in the Damnation Navy, not only Janis Grady (comment here), but also Jenna Miscavige Hill in &quot;Beyond Belief.&quot; Sharone Stainforth has done various interviews and a very good speech in Dublin (available on video). Several others have spoken up on exscientologykids.com .

While the inaction of the parents can be explained (they, too, are in a high-control organisation which consistently forces its victims to make decisions which harm themselves), the inaction of the proper authorities is a different matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kids don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re signing up for. Unfortunately, their parents do not know (or tell themselves to not know), either.</p>
<p>Sadly, ex-victims do know. Some have told the stories of their lives in the Damnation Navy, not only Janis Grady (comment here), but also Jenna Miscavige Hill in &#8220;Beyond Belief.&#8221; Sharone Stainforth has done various interviews and a very good speech in Dublin (available on video). Several others have spoken up on exscientologykids.com .</p>
<p>While the inaction of the parents can be explained (they, too, are in a high-control organisation which consistently forces its victims to make decisions which harm themselves), the inaction of the proper authorities is a different matter.</p>
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		By: smokkee911		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[smokkee911]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2019 02:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266335&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Skyler, I meant it very tongue in cheek, I would fall off my chair in disbelief if Mike changed the blog name. ;-) Mike and this blog are already doing what MUST be done by bringing  attention to this madness.  Having never been in, the extent of my knowledge is an accululation of only what I’ve read and watched which is definitely enough tyvm!  I just can’t believe, with all the information there is out in the open, that the authorities haven’t closed this gong show down by now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266335">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Skyler, I meant it very tongue in cheek, I would fall off my chair in disbelief if Mike changed the blog name. 😉 Mike and this blog are already doing what MUST be done by bringing  attention to this madness.  Having never been in, the extent of my knowledge is an accululation of only what I’ve read and watched which is definitely enough tyvm!  I just can’t believe, with all the information there is out in the open, that the authorities haven’t closed this gong show down by now.</p>
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		By: wendy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 19:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Somehow watching this small child, who is not capable mentally or legally to sign contracts, smacks of desperation on the part of scn.  The adults are getting smart to whats going in so lets up the anty and go after the kids with a vengence now!  And BTW, since this child is part of the Latin America contingent but signing in LA, the skeptic in me wonders if the CoS is wooing asylum seekers as a way to bolster the numbers and staff.  Offering them sanctuary of the church and working on the immigration issue on the back end while having fresh meat all the while. 
Or it could be just me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow watching this small child, who is not capable mentally or legally to sign contracts, smacks of desperation on the part of scn.  The adults are getting smart to whats going in so lets up the anty and go after the kids with a vengence now!  And BTW, since this child is part of the Latin America contingent but signing in LA, the skeptic in me wonders if the CoS is wooing asylum seekers as a way to bolster the numbers and staff.  Offering them sanctuary of the church and working on the immigration issue on the back end while having fresh meat all the while.<br />
Or it could be just me.</p>
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		By: Annie Oakley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annie Oakley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 15:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is so sick.  I always thought it was, but when you are out it really hits you as just awful. The first time I saw this was when a child of 8 stood up on the stage in the park in Portland with Jeff Pomerantz and was lauded for having just signed a Sea Org contract. I was sickened even then. This is one of the reasons I kept my kids off lines when others I knew were putting theirs on basic courses. (I also knew young teens who were training on the levels - auditing confessionals on adults! I can only imagine the things they were exposed to too soon...)  I was so scared of my kids getting regged for the SO. My brother was recruited when he was on course in his teens. I was against him joining but couldn&#039;t be too vocal. I knew he had no interest really in saving mankind. They get these kids when they are teens because they are often rebellious and can&#039;t wait to get away from their parents/be independent and they see the Sea Org as a way to do that.  The recruiter sold my brother  a line of bull and my mother let him join. As someone mentioned earlier, parents are love-bombed when their kids do this fabulous thing, taking responsibility for the 4th dynamic and all that crap. My brother is out now and says the SO stole his childhood. They should not be able to do this - I really don&#039;t know how they get away with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so sick.  I always thought it was, but when you are out it really hits you as just awful. The first time I saw this was when a child of 8 stood up on the stage in the park in Portland with Jeff Pomerantz and was lauded for having just signed a Sea Org contract. I was sickened even then. This is one of the reasons I kept my kids off lines when others I knew were putting theirs on basic courses. (I also knew young teens who were training on the levels &#8211; auditing confessionals on adults! I can only imagine the things they were exposed to too soon&#8230;)  I was so scared of my kids getting regged for the SO. My brother was recruited when he was on course in his teens. I was against him joining but couldn&#8217;t be too vocal. I knew he had no interest really in saving mankind. They get these kids when they are teens because they are often rebellious and can&#8217;t wait to get away from their parents/be independent and they see the Sea Org as a way to do that.  The recruiter sold my brother  a line of bull and my mother let him join. As someone mentioned earlier, parents are love-bombed when their kids do this fabulous thing, taking responsibility for the 4th dynamic and all that crap. My brother is out now and says the SO stole his childhood. They should not be able to do this &#8211; I really don&#8217;t know how they get away with it.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 12:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266300&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Eastern Block recruits would be multilingual since they are also CSL, Clamspeak Second Language. All Scientologists are CSL. Here&#039;s a clamspeak dictionary for fringe Scientologists and never ins.

http://www.bible.ca/scientology-dictonary-terms.htm

I think the CoS is now offering some internet courses and people experimenting need a dictionary. Someone said Scientology course rooms don&#039;t use the Scientology Tek Dictionary anymore so still ins might also find it useful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266300">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Eastern Block recruits would be multilingual since they are also CSL, Clamspeak Second Language. All Scientologists are CSL. Here&#8217;s a clamspeak dictionary for fringe Scientologists and never ins.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bible.ca/scientology-dictonary-terms.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bible.ca/scientology-dictonary-terms.htm</a></p>
<p>I think the CoS is now offering some internet courses and people experimenting need a dictionary. Someone said Scientology course rooms don&#8217;t use the Scientology Tek Dictionary anymore so still ins might also find it useful.</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266262&quot;&gt;Badafuco&lt;/a&gt;.

That is certainly a viable strategy to keep you out of the SO. I hope you won&#039;t mind if I point out that all you really need to do is just TELL them you took it, in case people want to prevent themselves from getting Shanghaid into the SO.

In fact, if the location of these children is known, maybe we could hire an airplane to drop some leaflets and tell them they can get out of the SO just by saying they were too embarrassed to admit they had tried LSD but want to come clean now and admit they took LSD a few times. 

I think that is all they need to do to get kicked out of the SO and taste freedom again.

Is it possible these children are ever outdoors where we could drop some leaflets or write a message in the sky with an airplane that writes messages in the sky? I forget what that is called. Is it &quot;sky writing&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-children-in-the-sea-organization/#comment-266262">Badafuco</a>.</p>
<p>That is certainly a viable strategy to keep you out of the SO. I hope you won&#8217;t mind if I point out that all you really need to do is just TELL them you took it, in case people want to prevent themselves from getting Shanghaid into the SO.</p>
<p>In fact, if the location of these children is known, maybe we could hire an airplane to drop some leaflets and tell them they can get out of the SO just by saying they were too embarrassed to admit they had tried LSD but want to come clean now and admit they took LSD a few times. </p>
<p>I think that is all they need to do to get kicked out of the SO and taste freedom again.</p>
<p>Is it possible these children are ever outdoors where we could drop some leaflets or write a message in the sky with an airplane that writes messages in the sky? I forget what that is called. Is it &#8220;sky writing&#8221;?</p>
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