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		By: Episode 61: Julian Wain and the Delphian School		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Episode 61: Julian Wain and the Delphian School]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Here is what scientology told the IRS about practicing other faiths &#8212; contained in an earlier blogpost Scientology, Christianity and the IRS: [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: Episode 60: Clearwater City Council Candidate Aaron Smith-Levin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Episode 60: Clearwater City Council Candidate Aaron Smith-Levin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2021 22:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Recent Scientology and religion blog post [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: tesseract		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 13:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414680&quot;&gt;Mark Kamran&lt;/a&gt;.

Well Mark, &quot;Chult&quot; was intentional, as in, Cult + Church :) :) :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414680">Mark Kamran</a>.</p>
<p>Well Mark, &#8220;Chult&#8221; was intentional, as in, Cult + Church 🙂 🙂 🙂</p>
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		By: Mark Kamran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Kamran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 06:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414555&quot;&gt;tesseract&lt;/a&gt;.

You got it.
In urban culture,  where advertisement pushes us ,&quot; they can have it why don&#039;t you&quot;  increase curiosity about things kept away or declared taboo.

Young generation cannot be stopped from Google search, 
Truth is out there.

About typos ,well typing from thumb has its own fun and misery. 
It same for you , as it is not chult but Cult ( 2nd Para 14th line).

That&#039;s the cost we have to bear for keeping info travel fast and faster.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414555">tesseract</a>.</p>
<p>You got it.<br />
In urban culture,  where advertisement pushes us ,&#8221; they can have it why don&#8217;t you&#8221;  increase curiosity about things kept away or declared taboo.</p>
<p>Young generation cannot be stopped from Google search,<br />
Truth is out there.</p>
<p>About typos ,well typing from thumb has its own fun and misery.<br />
It same for you , as it is not chult but Cult ( 2nd Para 14th line).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the cost we have to bear for keeping info travel fast and faster.</p>
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		By: GL		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it gets the Dwunkindwarfer and $queezeyoudryofmoneyology what he wants then who gives a shit if it all lies and bullshit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it gets the Dwunkindwarfer and $queezeyoudryofmoneyology what he wants then who gives a shit if it all lies and bullshit.</p>
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		By: DisembodiedSpirit		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414642</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 21:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s been quite a while since the last time I came here, hello everybody. I don&#039;t even remember which nickname I was using, so let&#039;s start again with a new one.
 
A note on Aaron video:

I remember a Course Supervisor in Flag, when I was training there, who had served on the ship Apollo with Hubbard; he told us an anecdote of those days: someone of the ship had asked Hubbard &quot;How will an OT Civilization be?&quot; and he answered &quot;Read the &#039;Lensmen&#039; novels by E.E. Smith, there is a good approximation in there on how it will be&quot;.

Well, it was not a smart move to draw that parallel, because in reading those sci-fi novels at a later time I was able to see how many of Scientology tenets were plagiarized from them.

The &quot;Skylark of Space&quot; novels by Smith are based on some intergalactic forces wanting to crush earth. In those novels one of the villain species is an evolved race of all powerful disembodied spirits with no mass, no wavelength, etc., capable of operating without bodies, controlling matter, emitting blasts of energy and so on. We can see here a very definite plagiarism: Hubbard reused this idea as the very basic Scientology concept of an Operating Thetan.

In the &quot;Lensmen&quot; novels, again, there is a &quot;spiritual&quot; race of villains wanting to invade our universe, so a police force has been created with enhanced powers (telepathy, telekinesis, and so on) to fight them back; many traits defining the elite Scientology group called Sea Org are copied from the &quot;Lensmen&quot; police force (except the super-human powers, only promised to Sea Org Members and never really achieved). So, again, here we have a plagiarism of Smith&#039;s fiction.

These are just some of the recognizable creative ideas Hubbard has copied from Smith in describing his sci-fi universe called Scientology. More concepts from Smith and other &quot;old time&quot; sci-fi authors are visible throughout Hubbard&#039;s cosmologic and spiritual depiction of the universe, especially in the higher levels.

Maybe after OT VII he didn&#039;t know who else to plagiarize, so he used the Bible as his inspiration for the OT VIII materials. Maybe.

I&#039;m still not sure OT VIII was really written by Hubbard, maybe the Evil Dwarf himself wrote that level; it would explain the change in literary style.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been quite a while since the last time I came here, hello everybody. I don&#8217;t even remember which nickname I was using, so let&#8217;s start again with a new one.</p>
<p>A note on Aaron video:</p>
<p>I remember a Course Supervisor in Flag, when I was training there, who had served on the ship Apollo with Hubbard; he told us an anecdote of those days: someone of the ship had asked Hubbard &#8220;How will an OT Civilization be?&#8221; and he answered &#8220;Read the &#8216;Lensmen&#8217; novels by E.E. Smith, there is a good approximation in there on how it will be&#8221;.</p>
<p>Well, it was not a smart move to draw that parallel, because in reading those sci-fi novels at a later time I was able to see how many of Scientology tenets were plagiarized from them.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Skylark of Space&#8221; novels by Smith are based on some intergalactic forces wanting to crush earth. In those novels one of the villain species is an evolved race of all powerful disembodied spirits with no mass, no wavelength, etc., capable of operating without bodies, controlling matter, emitting blasts of energy and so on. We can see here a very definite plagiarism: Hubbard reused this idea as the very basic Scientology concept of an Operating Thetan.</p>
<p>In the &#8220;Lensmen&#8221; novels, again, there is a &#8220;spiritual&#8221; race of villains wanting to invade our universe, so a police force has been created with enhanced powers (telepathy, telekinesis, and so on) to fight them back; many traits defining the elite Scientology group called Sea Org are copied from the &#8220;Lensmen&#8221; police force (except the super-human powers, only promised to Sea Org Members and never really achieved). So, again, here we have a plagiarism of Smith&#8217;s fiction.</p>
<p>These are just some of the recognizable creative ideas Hubbard has copied from Smith in describing his sci-fi universe called Scientology. More concepts from Smith and other &#8220;old time&#8221; sci-fi authors are visible throughout Hubbard&#8217;s cosmologic and spiritual depiction of the universe, especially in the higher levels.</p>
<p>Maybe after OT VII he didn&#8217;t know who else to plagiarize, so he used the Bible as his inspiration for the OT VIII materials. Maybe.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not sure OT VIII was really written by Hubbard, maybe the Evil Dwarf himself wrote that level; it would explain the change in literary style.</p>
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		By: SassMasterSupreme		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414607</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 15:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joy villa is a joke. I sent my mostly conservative family plenty of articles on her. They thought she was just some trump lady. Not any more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joy villa is a joke. I sent my mostly conservative family plenty of articles on her. They thought she was just some trump lady. Not any more.</p>
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		By: tesseract		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414555</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tesseract]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 07:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414422&quot;&gt;Mark Kamran&lt;/a&gt;.

You wrote:

They discourage followers to check internet but when Apple IOS and Google Andriod make mobile phone part of life they started losing their followers.

Yeah, I do think you got a point there. Never underestimate the power of boredom to send someone on some fucked-up Wikipedia diving tour, either at 2am in the morning or on public transport! Lol
Maybe some even initially wanted to read some of &quot;all the good news about all the good work&quot; the chult is doing... because of having doubts and wanting to see finally what their donations &quot;accomplish&quot;. Doh!

PS: it&#039;s &quot;millennium&quot;, not &quot;mellinium&quot; or &quot;millinimum&quot;. Although either does sound like some tasty kind of jam, perhaps with whole chult berries and gobbledegook and nuts, slowly cooked in a crackpot. I&#039;d like to buy some jars!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414422">Mark Kamran</a>.</p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
<p>They discourage followers to check internet but when Apple IOS and Google Andriod make mobile phone part of life they started losing their followers.</p>
<p>Yeah, I do think you got a point there. Never underestimate the power of boredom to send someone on some fucked-up Wikipedia diving tour, either at 2am in the morning or on public transport! Lol<br />
Maybe some even initially wanted to read some of &#8220;all the good news about all the good work&#8221; the chult is doing&#8230; because of having doubts and wanting to see finally what their donations &#8220;accomplish&#8221;. Doh!</p>
<p>PS: it&#8217;s &#8220;millennium&#8221;, not &#8220;mellinium&#8221; or &#8220;millinimum&#8221;. Although either does sound like some tasty kind of jam, perhaps with whole chult berries and gobbledegook and nuts, slowly cooked in a crackpot. I&#8217;d like to buy some jars!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414552</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 07:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414470&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Peacemaker, in one of LRH&#039;s tapes - I forget which one - a Congress, possibly - he states -or muses out loud,  that Jesus Christ was so low toned and overt ridden that his dying on the cross for everyone&#039;s sins, etc. was an act of EXTREME propitiation for his OWN sins.  In other words,  Jesus Christ the being was guilt ridden, sin ridden, a product of lifetime after lifetime of huge overts,  and in this lifetime allowing himself to be caught, found guilty and crucified was  his extremely low toned stunt to punish himself for all the harm that he had caused mankind.  In brief, his crucifixion was an act of extreme propitiation on his part.  Jesus was propitiating the 4th dynamic in this way.  Again, I can&#039;t recall what tape I was listening to except I&#039;m fairly certain it was one of the Congresses.  And I&#039;ve paraphrased a good deal but Hubbard did use the word &quot;propitiation&quot; quite strongly, and we know where THAT is on the tone scale, LOL.

 In Scientology, there is NO WAY that one can love or admire or actually believe in Jesus Christ and at the same time be a Scientologist in good standing, or make it thru a course or an auditing action.  

Any viable attachment to Jesus Christ would mean  False Data Stripping,  Ethics handlings for mixing practices, specific rundowns, etc.; etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414470">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Peacemaker, in one of LRH&#8217;s tapes &#8211; I forget which one &#8211; a Congress, possibly &#8211; he states -or muses out loud,  that Jesus Christ was so low toned and overt ridden that his dying on the cross for everyone&#8217;s sins, etc. was an act of EXTREME propitiation for his OWN sins.  In other words,  Jesus Christ the being was guilt ridden, sin ridden, a product of lifetime after lifetime of huge overts,  and in this lifetime allowing himself to be caught, found guilty and crucified was  his extremely low toned stunt to punish himself for all the harm that he had caused mankind.  In brief, his crucifixion was an act of extreme propitiation on his part.  Jesus was propitiating the 4th dynamic in this way.  Again, I can&#8217;t recall what tape I was listening to except I&#8217;m fairly certain it was one of the Congresses.  And I&#8217;ve paraphrased a good deal but Hubbard did use the word &#8220;propitiation&#8221; quite strongly, and we know where THAT is on the tone scale, LOL.</p>
<p> In Scientology, there is NO WAY that one can love or admire or actually believe in Jesus Christ and at the same time be a Scientologist in good standing, or make it thru a course or an auditing action.  </p>
<p>Any viable attachment to Jesus Christ would mean  False Data Stripping,  Ethics handlings for mixing practices, specific rundowns, etc.; etc.</p>
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		By: mark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2021 19:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414460&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Joe,
Ah, okay, I see what you mean: WITHIN &quot;the church&quot; it was a non-issue.
What I saw aligns with what you saw: the &quot;real&quot; scientologists didn&#039;t &quot;mix practices&quot;. Anyone who came into scienbollicky as a real Christian usually didn&#039;t stay very long...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-christianity-and-the-irs/#comment-414460">Joe Pendleton</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Joe,<br />
Ah, okay, I see what you mean: WITHIN &#8220;the church&#8221; it was a non-issue.<br />
What I saw aligns with what you saw: the &#8220;real&#8221; scientologists didn&#8217;t &#8220;mix practices&#8221;. Anyone who came into scienbollicky as a real Christian usually didn&#8217;t stay very long&#8230;</p>
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