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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-149185</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2016 16:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148660&quot;&gt;Gtsix&lt;/a&gt;.

Gtsix, M2C asks that question whenever his argument gets logically destroyed.  You can of course guess why he does it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148660">Gtsix</a>.</p>
<p>Gtsix, M2C asks that question whenever his argument gets logically destroyed.  You can of course guess why he does it.</p>
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		By: gtsix		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-149154</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148736&quot;&gt;My 2 Cents&lt;/a&gt;.

Yea... I figured you wanted my credentials to speak on the subject.  Seems that is a criteria you use, if a person has not been,  they have nothing to say on the subject.

Will I answer? Yes. No.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148736">My 2 Cents</a>.</p>
<p>Yea&#8230; I figured you wanted my credentials to speak on the subject.  Seems that is a criteria you use, if a person has not been,  they have nothing to say on the subject.</p>
<p>Will I answer? Yes. No.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148946</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2016 14:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148734&quot;&gt;My 2 Cents&lt;/a&gt;.

Two Pence, when El Con was there.]]></description>
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<p>Two Pence, when El Con was there.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2016 14:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148784&quot;&gt;Dead men tell no tales (Bill Straass)&lt;/a&gt;.

Bill, why would anyone be scammed? However, that isn&#039;t the point of the story about the church policies on service.  IF you cannot REALLY discern that, you have been more mentally damaged by scamology that you realize.]]></description>
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<p>Bill, why would anyone be scammed? However, that isn&#8217;t the point of the story about the church policies on service.  IF you cannot REALLY discern that, you have been more mentally damaged by scamology that you realize.</p>
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		By: Dead men tell no tales (Bill Straass)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148936</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead men tell no tales (Bill Straass)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2016 04:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148900&quot;&gt;FG&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Mr Rinder: For some reason your question(and others) appear on my screen as a vertical line of letters with no spacing at the end of sentence. Almost impossible to read although I can read from right to left almost as well as left.to right. I saw.your name at the top so I took the.extra trouble to decipher it. Although your question was probably to FG, I will add some small thoughts on it. No, I don&#039;t think that DM added any High Crimes to the PL (though you would probably know better than anyone) but he really didn&#039;t need to per my experience. 
I was assigned personally by RTC to do a Community Ev on Andrew Stevens who was the auditor of Don Jason who blew from the Freewinds RPF. The CommEv stemmed from the fact that Andrew was being offloaded and requested a CommEv as he wanted to remain in the RPF. I as Secretary of the Committee found that there was no order in writing offloading him.I asked Andrew who had ordered his offload and he did not know, but thought it was COB. The cycle was being done in reverse. The guy had to be shot, so he must be guilty of High Crimes.A Committee is assigned to explain why he was shot. (But this consists of lies rammed down the Committee&#039;s throat. If the Committee has too much personal integrity to go along with the injustice then this is proof that the Committee has Mutual out Ruds and so we find them guilty too. This continues until you find a Committee that does not want to be shot. I did not want to be shot either, but I knew that if I went along with it today they would give me more and more until I eventually blew me own brains out.
A staff member who is SSII has to have an FB before being offloaded.Then, per LRH, he has to have a COMM-EV to be sent before the Fitness Board. My offload went in this sequence: I was offloaded first, then had to 8C my fitness board to be held and then requested and received a Comm Ev. It was hard to defend myself at the COMM-EV as there were no charges against me. The F and Rs read like the greatest Commendation one could imagine, i.e. I saved another ship from sinking, etc. But then I was offloaded anyway. The  &quot;justice&quot; action serves only to justify and obscure the author of the original order to have the person  shot. To this day I do not know who ordered my offload; it was clearly not the Fitness Board. The Chief Off Freewinds told me what their findings were 3 months before they even met.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148900">FG</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Mr Rinder: For some reason your question(and others) appear on my screen as a vertical line of letters with no spacing at the end of sentence. Almost impossible to read although I can read from right to left almost as well as left.to right. I saw.your name at the top so I took the.extra trouble to decipher it. Although your question was probably to FG, I will add some small thoughts on it. No, I don&#8217;t think that DM added any High Crimes to the PL (though you would probably know better than anyone) but he really didn&#8217;t need to per my experience.<br />
I was assigned personally by RTC to do a Community Ev on Andrew Stevens who was the auditor of Don Jason who blew from the Freewinds RPF. The CommEv stemmed from the fact that Andrew was being offloaded and requested a CommEv as he wanted to remain in the RPF. I as Secretary of the Committee found that there was no order in writing offloading him.I asked Andrew who had ordered his offload and he did not know, but thought it was COB. The cycle was being done in reverse. The guy had to be shot, so he must be guilty of High Crimes.A Committee is assigned to explain why he was shot. (But this consists of lies rammed down the Committee&#8217;s throat. If the Committee has too much personal integrity to go along with the injustice then this is proof that the Committee has Mutual out Ruds and so we find them guilty too. This continues until you find a Committee that does not want to be shot. I did not want to be shot either, but I knew that if I went along with it today they would give me more and more until I eventually blew me own brains out.<br />
A staff member who is SSII has to have an FB before being offloaded.Then, per LRH, he has to have a COMM-EV to be sent before the Fitness Board. My offload went in this sequence: I was offloaded first, then had to 8C my fitness board to be held and then requested and received a Comm Ev. It was hard to defend myself at the COMM-EV as there were no charges against me. The F and Rs read like the greatest Commendation one could imagine, i.e. I saved another ship from sinking, etc. But then I was offloaded anyway. The  &#8220;justice&#8221; action serves only to justify and obscure the author of the original order to have the person  shot. To this day I do not know who ordered my offload; it was clearly not the Fitness Board. The Chief Off Freewinds told me what their findings were 3 months before they even met.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148911</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2016 19:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148900&quot;&gt;FG&lt;/a&gt;.

What High Crimes did Miscavige extend? I am unaware of this and curious to know what you are referring to?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148900">FG</a>.</p>
<p>What High Crimes did Miscavige extend? I am unaware of this and curious to know what you are referring to?</p>
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		By: FG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2016 18:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148784&quot;&gt;Dead men tell no tales (Bill Straass)&lt;/a&gt;.

Well it&#039;s simple, the admin &quot;tek&quot; as Wynski call it is also altered in it&#039;s importance to fit Miscavige&#039;s mind. He extended the list of high crime for his own purpose. The church is simply doing something else than helping people which was the purpose of Hubbard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148784">Dead men tell no tales (Bill Straass)</a>.</p>
<p>Well it&#8217;s simple, the admin &#8220;tek&#8221; as Wynski call it is also altered in it&#8217;s importance to fit Miscavige&#8217;s mind. He extended the list of high crime for his own purpose. The church is simply doing something else than helping people which was the purpose of Hubbard.</p>
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		By: Dead men tell no tales (Bill Straass)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead men tell no tales (Bill Straass)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2016 15:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148511&quot;&gt;Gimpy&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s right. I never worked in the restaurarant though other engineers did. I remember when the best man at my first wedding to SS gruppenfurer Sharon Weber (then Dir I and R FSSO now CO FSSO for the last 21 years.) was servicing Jim and Tamara Meskimen. He accidently dumped a cold drink on Tamara to which Jim said &quot;I&#039;ll have what she&#039;s wearing.&quot; The table gave low votes for that one meal and that one meal crashed the state for the entire division that week because the voting criteria is so unreal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148511">Gimpy</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right. I never worked in the restaurarant though other engineers did. I remember when the best man at my first wedding to SS gruppenfurer Sharon Weber (then Dir I and R FSSO now CO FSSO for the last 21 years.) was servicing Jim and Tamara Meskimen. He accidently dumped a cold drink on Tamara to which Jim said &#8220;I&#8217;ll have what she&#8217;s wearing.&#8221; The table gave low votes for that one meal and that one meal crashed the state for the entire division that week because the voting criteria is so unreal.</p>
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		By: Dead men tell no tales (Bill Straass)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148785</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead men tell no tales (Bill Straass)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2016 09:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148540&quot;&gt;I Yawnalot&lt;/a&gt;.

There you go, using Heine&#039;s name in vain. He actually had a more polished outfit than what came before, he stopped the shooting of Jews and started using gas. No blood spraying around, it was less messy. Sort of like the IAS; no need to waste time and effort delivering service when you can take the money and deliver nothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148540">I Yawnalot</a>.</p>
<p>There you go, using Heine&#8217;s name in vain. He actually had a more polished outfit than what came before, he stopped the shooting of Jews and started using gas. No blood spraying around, it was less messy. Sort of like the IAS; no need to waste time and effort delivering service when you can take the money and deliver nothing.</p>
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		By: Dead men tell no tales (Bill Straass)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead men tell no tales (Bill Straass)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2016 09:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148672&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

( For some reason when I post after another&#039;s comment it gets put as the first comment ) Why would a PC ask for real LRH Tech to be run if LRH tech is no better than the stuff made up by the auditor? I have never done the DEC but I believe that is referred to as an outpoint]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-customer-service/#comment-148672">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>( For some reason when I post after another&#8217;s comment it gets put as the first comment ) Why would a PC ask for real LRH Tech to be run if LRH tech is no better than the stuff made up by the auditor? I have never done the DEC but I believe that is referred to as an outpoint</p>
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