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		By: Yor Bor		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[This information is invaluable. It gives an accurate picture of Scientology&#039;s decline.  As the demented midget, Miscavige, applies more brutal force, he is driving people away in droves. No one is joining these days either. I&#039;ve seen a few young people body routed into NY org. They watch the intro films, maybe buy a book and leave. The NY org is a ghost town nowadays. When I was on staff in the late 80&#039;s/early 90&#039;s the Academy had at least 20-30 students at night. The HGC was busy. Basic courses had at least a dozen or so. There was Book One Auditing going on. Now, you just see a trickle of people walking in. Most of the staff are young and most likely are children of long-time staff and public who are still under that spell. Corporate Scientology&#039;s outlook is very gloomy. It sucks to be Miscavige. What&#039;s he going to do when his big-money public die off , go broke, or just plain walk out?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This information is invaluable. It gives an accurate picture of Scientology&#8217;s decline.  As the demented midget, Miscavige, applies more brutal force, he is driving people away in droves. No one is joining these days either. I&#8217;ve seen a few young people body routed into NY org. They watch the intro films, maybe buy a book and leave. The NY org is a ghost town nowadays. When I was on staff in the late 80&#8217;s/early 90&#8217;s the Academy had at least 20-30 students at night. The HGC was busy. Basic courses had at least a dozen or so. There was Book One Auditing going on. Now, you just see a trickle of people walking in. Most of the staff are young and most likely are children of long-time staff and public who are still under that spell. Corporate Scientology&#8217;s outlook is very gloomy. It sucks to be Miscavige. What&#8217;s he going to do when his big-money public die off , go broke, or just plain walk out?</p>
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		By: Indie8Million		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 02:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7323&quot;&gt;Neo&lt;/a&gt;.

I can&#039;t reply directly to &quot;Graduated&quot; but this might interest Neo also.
I read through this today and it seems to answer (in part) Graduated&#039;s question about who they&#039;re connected with to get such carte blanche treatment. I fully believe that they have some entity protecting them but it doesn&#039;t hurt to have billions in your &quot;War Chest&quot; - unfortunately the war is being waged AGAINST the people who are trying to save the group. But DM will not let anyone win, just like the bully in the sandbox. 
&quot;There is no such thing as losing. There&#039;s just not enough push and carry through.&quot; GREAT reference but, unfortunately, used against the wrong people in this case.  http://www.xenu-directory.net/opinions/berry20020525.html
Thank you, Neo for the David Icke book reference. He knows about a LOT of stuff that&#039;s going on, enough so that he told his son NOT to get involved with Scientology. In its current form, I agree with the father.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7323">Neo</a>.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t reply directly to &#8220;Graduated&#8221; but this might interest Neo also.<br />
I read through this today and it seems to answer (in part) Graduated&#8217;s question about who they&#8217;re connected with to get such carte blanche treatment. I fully believe that they have some entity protecting them but it doesn&#8217;t hurt to have billions in your &#8220;War Chest&#8221; &#8211; unfortunately the war is being waged AGAINST the people who are trying to save the group. But DM will not let anyone win, just like the bully in the sandbox.<br />
&#8220;There is no such thing as losing. There&#8217;s just not enough push and carry through.&#8221; GREAT reference but, unfortunately, used against the wrong people in this case.  <a href="http://www.xenu-directory.net/opinions/berry20020525.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.xenu-directory.net/opinions/berry20020525.html</a><br />
Thank you, Neo for the David Icke book reference. He knows about a LOT of stuff that&#8217;s going on, enough so that he told his son NOT to get involved with Scientology. In its current form, I agree with the father.</p>
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		By: NoEyeDeer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7243&quot;&gt;Howard Roark&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m with you there. I have walked away and will never ever go back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7243">Howard Roark</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you there. I have walked away and will never ever go back.</p>
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		By: Eric Alexandrou		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7267&quot;&gt;mwesten&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear mwesten,I took my case to a law firm here in Brisbane ,Australia ,I provided receipts ,money I have on account,the church of Scientology said that they want to resolve the matter amicably. Then they said its a donation,then they said ,it was years ago the donations were made,My solicitor tould me I have a very strong case,AFter about 4 months My solicitor rang me and tould me that another firm has bought him out ,in other words theirs a conflict of interest ,and I went to the solicitors office I payed his large fee and I walked out with my documents,receipts.so now I&#039;m saving more money , to go to another solicitor .iv been stalked , harassed,threatened ,spied on,my beloved mother at 86 Years old got hounded by the church.AND I REFUSE  to sign there bullshit gag orders just to get my money back that&#039;s on account  .
If I did sign ,that means I have to stop going on mikes blog,and other blogs which I like doing.
Thankyou for your encouragement,I appreciate it.
Eric Alexandrou 
Brisbane ,Australia .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7267">mwesten</a>.</p>
<p>Dear mwesten,I took my case to a law firm here in Brisbane ,Australia ,I provided receipts ,money I have on account,the church of Scientology said that they want to resolve the matter amicably. Then they said its a donation,then they said ,it was years ago the donations were made,My solicitor tould me I have a very strong case,AFter about 4 months My solicitor rang me and tould me that another firm has bought him out ,in other words theirs a conflict of interest ,and I went to the solicitors office I payed his large fee and I walked out with my documents,receipts.so now I&#8217;m saving more money , to go to another solicitor .iv been stalked , harassed,threatened ,spied on,my beloved mother at 86 Years old got hounded by the church.AND I REFUSE  to sign there bullshit gag orders just to get my money back that&#8217;s on account  .<br />
If I did sign ,that means I have to stop going on mikes blog,and other blogs which I like doing.<br />
Thankyou for your encouragement,I appreciate it.<br />
Eric Alexandrou<br />
Brisbane ,Australia .</p>
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		By: Neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7275&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

First off...congratulations on the marriage! Well done!

Secondly...thank you VERY much for what you are doing. Reading your posts and Marty&#039;s posts have been a freeing experience for my wife and I. I&#039;ve never felt so de-PTS&#039;d.

Regarding the stats being confidential. I know this is true. When I was in the SO at FSO I remember several key stats like WDAHs and VSD being totally crashed, yet at the events FSO was in screaming affluence all of a sudden. There was this fear of letting the public know our stats were actually down and that even the SO had to apply emergency and danger conditions just like everyone else from time to time....LOL.

[direct comm to Mike - the comm below does not need to be posted if you don&#039;t feel it appropriate]

Also, I emailed you about a week ago (maybe a little longer). I had asked you to give me a call when you had a chance and you wanted to keep it through email which I totally understand. There are some questions I had which when answered will really help me decide how to proceed with my situation. I know you are very busy with the wedding and all, but please get back with me on those answers. Your opinion based on your experiences means a lot to me :O)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7275">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>First off&#8230;congratulations on the marriage! Well done!</p>
<p>Secondly&#8230;thank you VERY much for what you are doing. Reading your posts and Marty&#8217;s posts have been a freeing experience for my wife and I. I&#8217;ve never felt so de-PTS&#8217;d.</p>
<p>Regarding the stats being confidential. I know this is true. When I was in the SO at FSO I remember several key stats like WDAHs and VSD being totally crashed, yet at the events FSO was in screaming affluence all of a sudden. There was this fear of letting the public know our stats were actually down and that even the SO had to apply emergency and danger conditions just like everyone else from time to time&#8230;.LOL.</p>
<p>[direct comm to Mike &#8211; the comm below does not need to be posted if you don&#8217;t feel it appropriate]</p>
<p>Also, I emailed you about a week ago (maybe a little longer). I had asked you to give me a call when you had a chance and you wanted to keep it through email which I totally understand. There are some questions I had which when answered will really help me decide how to proceed with my situation. I know you are very busy with the wedding and all, but please get back with me on those answers. Your opinion based on your experiences means a lot to me :O)</p>
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		By: Neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7248&quot;&gt;Ronnie Bell&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s inevitable that as we continue to be here and communicate on this and other blogs, the sheer number of us -vs- them will topple the scales in our favor. We don&#039;t need to abide by disconnection. If I were declared and my children and friends were forced to disconnect from me I would totally not respect that &quot;decision&quot; and would continue to communicate any way I could. I would continue at any cost to discredit and dead agent the lies coming from the church about me. 

Those who disconnect from you still love you. They truly want to be in comm with you. They are just scared. NOTHING is impenetrable. If you fire enough bullets (truth) at the side of a fortress, eventually some of them are going to get through. There is ALWAYS a weak spot.

Friends and loved ones DO read the letters and emails you send to them even though the cult doesn&#039;t allow them to read them. Down deep they KNOW you are truly good and that an injustice has been done against you. 

I am one of those who is now out because some of the stuff being written finally sank in and caused me to wake up :O)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7248">Ronnie Bell</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s inevitable that as we continue to be here and communicate on this and other blogs, the sheer number of us -vs- them will topple the scales in our favor. We don&#8217;t need to abide by disconnection. If I were declared and my children and friends were forced to disconnect from me I would totally not respect that &#8220;decision&#8221; and would continue to communicate any way I could. I would continue at any cost to discredit and dead agent the lies coming from the church about me. </p>
<p>Those who disconnect from you still love you. They truly want to be in comm with you. They are just scared. NOTHING is impenetrable. If you fire enough bullets (truth) at the side of a fortress, eventually some of them are going to get through. There is ALWAYS a weak spot.</p>
<p>Friends and loved ones DO read the letters and emails you send to them even though the cult doesn&#8217;t allow them to read them. Down deep they KNOW you are truly good and that an injustice has been done against you. </p>
<p>I am one of those who is now out because some of the stuff being written finally sank in and caused me to wake up :O)</p>
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		By: Neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7323&quot;&gt;Neo&lt;/a&gt;.

Another interesting tidbit is that when I first read this book years ago I was pulled into &quot;ethics&quot; and &quot;interviewed&quot; for over two hours about why I read it and then instructed to stop reading it and never to mention it to other Scientologists. Apparently it&#039;s on the &quot;forbidden list of books&quot;...LOL. 

Reading it in a new unit of time after seeing the light and decompressing a bit, I can see why the &quot;church&quot; would forbid someone to read it. It must contain some aspect of the truth the Little One is trying to hide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7323">Neo</a>.</p>
<p>Another interesting tidbit is that when I first read this book years ago I was pulled into &#8220;ethics&#8221; and &#8220;interviewed&#8221; for over two hours about why I read it and then instructed to stop reading it and never to mention it to other Scientologists. Apparently it&#8217;s on the &#8220;forbidden list of books&#8221;&#8230;LOL. </p>
<p>Reading it in a new unit of time after seeing the light and decompressing a bit, I can see why the &#8220;church&#8221; would forbid someone to read it. It must contain some aspect of the truth the Little One is trying to hide.</p>
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		By: Neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7262&quot;&gt;Graduated&lt;/a&gt;.

I believe the connection is definitely there. Have you ever read &quot;The Biggest Secret&quot; by David Icke? 

He &quot;seems to be&quot; pretty far fetched on some things (to those with a low confront of evil) but if you confront and read the entire book it makes sense that the &quot;church&quot; has been infiltrated and taken over by those who control the rest of the planet in an effort to squash the technology. 

They&#039;ve done it for thousands and thousands of years to every other religion or group who has attempted to shed light on what is going on on this planet...and especially on those who provide the tools to see through the veil and who give solutions on how to free yourself from what I call &quot;the real matrix&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7262">Graduated</a>.</p>
<p>I believe the connection is definitely there. Have you ever read &#8220;The Biggest Secret&#8221; by David Icke? </p>
<p>He &#8220;seems to be&#8221; pretty far fetched on some things (to those with a low confront of evil) but if you confront and read the entire book it makes sense that the &#8220;church&#8221; has been infiltrated and taken over by those who control the rest of the planet in an effort to squash the technology. </p>
<p>They&#8217;ve done it for thousands and thousands of years to every other religion or group who has attempted to shed light on what is going on on this planet&#8230;and especially on those who provide the tools to see through the veil and who give solutions on how to free yourself from what I call &#8220;the real matrix&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7261&quot;&gt;Graduated&lt;/a&gt;.

Graduated, I love what you just wrote. Its total common sense and totally true for me.  Why would any sane person drop out workable actions and policies in his life?  So true, thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7261">Graduated</a>.</p>
<p>Graduated, I love what you just wrote. Its total common sense and totally true for me.  Why would any sane person drop out workable actions and policies in his life?  So true, thank you.</p>
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		By: Neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7235&quot;&gt;Blown SP&lt;/a&gt;.

Same with my wife and I. No declares...just quietly slipped away...tired of the BS after 24 years of being good little cool aid drinkers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-disconnection-the-number/#comment-7235">Blown SP</a>.</p>
<p>Same with my wife and I. No declares&#8230;just quietly slipped away&#8230;tired of the BS after 24 years of being good little cool aid drinkers.</p>
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