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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2019 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256841&quot;&gt;Outsider&lt;/a&gt;.

When you&#039;re a Clam you&#039;re a Clam all the way
From your first Qual Exam to your last dying day.
When you&#039;re a Clam you&#039;re the cultiest thing
You ain&#039;t nothin&#039; at all, COB is the king!

The Sea Org&#039;s  in tears
Miscavige is sec checking -
Forget your careers
Your lives he&#039;ll now be wrecking
With his sec checking.

Here come the Clams yeah and they&#039;re really beat
They&#039;ve been ground in the dirt under COB&#039;s feet
Under Old...Vicious...SP...Davey&#039;s... feet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256841">Outsider</a>.</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re a Clam you&#8217;re a Clam all the way<br />
From your first Qual Exam to your last dying day.<br />
When you&#8217;re a Clam you&#8217;re the cultiest thing<br />
You ain&#8217;t nothin&#8217; at all, COB is the king!</p>
<p>The Sea Org&#8217;s  in tears<br />
Miscavige is sec checking &#8211;<br />
Forget your careers<br />
Your lives he&#8217;ll now be wrecking<br />
With his sec checking.</p>
<p>Here come the Clams yeah and they&#8217;re really beat<br />
They&#8217;ve been ground in the dirt under COB&#8217;s feet<br />
Under Old&#8230;Vicious&#8230;SP&#8230;Davey&#8217;s&#8230; feet.</p>
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		By: White Light		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[White Light]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2019 08:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256794&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I can totally relate Aquamarine.  The real truth is that lrh wrote policies that contradicted themselves all over the place.   When we were all programmed to apply everything he said to the letter, it caused a sort of short circuit blindness to the insanity of it all.  Staff, under unbelievable psychological stress and pressure to push up stats (oh yeah, also &#039;off policy&#039;!) give way and just do whatever is being shouted at them the loudest.  It&#039;s a sickening betrayal of all &#039;believers&#039;.  We were all played like puppets on strings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256794">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>I can totally relate Aquamarine.  The real truth is that lrh wrote policies that contradicted themselves all over the place.   When we were all programmed to apply everything he said to the letter, it caused a sort of short circuit blindness to the insanity of it all.  Staff, under unbelievable psychological stress and pressure to push up stats (oh yeah, also &#8216;off policy&#8217;!) give way and just do whatever is being shouted at them the loudest.  It&#8217;s a sickening betrayal of all &#8216;believers&#8217;.  We were all played like puppets on strings.</p>
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		By: Ann Davis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2019 07:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256471&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

What a great comment!  Says it all perfectly and succinctly.]]></description>
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<p>What a great comment!  Says it all perfectly and succinctly.</p>
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		By: Ann Davis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2019 07:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256841&quot;&gt;Outsider&lt;/a&gt;.

Aqua and Outsider! ?]]></description>
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<p>Aqua and Outsider! ?</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 18:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256880&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, I do believe that was your experience of him, Wynski, and it  is confirmed shared by a number of others who knew and worked with him before his death.  Apparently, his written policy became something for others to follow, and ceased to apply to him, if indeed it ever did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256880">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, I do believe that was your experience of him, Wynski, and it  is confirmed shared by a number of others who knew and worked with him before his death.  Apparently, his written policy became something for others to follow, and ceased to apply to him, if indeed it ever did.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 13:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256712&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Like I said, NOT possible just because you are related to a person.  Estate law is different and NOT what was referenced.]]></description>
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<p>Like I said, NOT possible just because you are related to a person.  Estate law is different and NOT what was referenced.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 12:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256794&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aqua, the &quot;funny&quot; thing is, El Con didn&#039;t use his own policy when managing or running orgs.  He was a maniac and constantly angry.  Not a &quot;high toned&quot; individual at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256794">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aqua, the &#8220;funny&#8221; thing is, El Con didn&#8217;t use his own policy when managing or running orgs.  He was a maniac and constantly angry.  Not a &#8220;high toned&#8221; individual at all.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 07:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256726&quot;&gt;Out Ethics for Telling the Truth&lt;/a&gt;.

I double checked on the STL building, and the seeming error of date noted in the exchange with Peabody, also shows up in the full printed prospectus:

https://listingsprod.blob.core.windows.net/ourlistings-usa/ba9fe169-802c-4f8a-9900-3a150efb289e/95eb4726-2be3-4177-b4de-138b9fd44e44

However, listing services like LoopNet indicate that this is indeed a new 2019 listing:

Listing ID: 14862467 Date Created: 1/14/2019 Last Updated: 2/20/2019
https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/2345-Lafayette-Ave-Saint-Louis-MO/14862467/

I&#039;m also virtually certain I&#039;ve checked on the address once if not twice in the last year and haven&#039;t turned up information about it being put on the market before, so I think it&#039;s got to be newly on the market.  The description of the property in the printed prospectus also is poorly written with errors - perhaps having come from Scientology itself, come to think of it - which again suggests to me that the listing agents aren&#039;t actually much involved in marketing the property, presumably because they don&#039;t expect much to come of it.  

I checked, and Hilliker was the agency listing the property when Scientology bought it in 2007:

http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library-item.php?iid=3945

It&#039;s possible that Scientology previously tried selling the building through Hilliker, thinking that the firm that sold it last time would be a good go-to, and that it was done so quietly that there is no sign of it to be found.  The similar never-occupied and never-to-be occupied zombie building in Boston has also been through 2 attempts (at least) to sell it, and my guess is that Scientology is a difficult client to work with, including having unreasonable expectations about recovering cost from a white elephant property they probably first overpaid for, and then mis-managed and neglected.

The really sad thing to me, is that given a sale at a loss, Scientology will have squandered money that they coerced from locals at such terrible costs as members ending up losing their own homes and going bankrupt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256726">Out Ethics for Telling the Truth</a>.</p>
<p>I double checked on the STL building, and the seeming error of date noted in the exchange with Peabody, also shows up in the full printed prospectus:</p>
<p><a href="https://listingsprod.blob.core.windows.net/ourlistings-usa/ba9fe169-802c-4f8a-9900-3a150efb289e/95eb4726-2be3-4177-b4de-138b9fd44e44" rel="nofollow ugc">https://listingsprod.blob.core.windows.net/ourlistings-usa/ba9fe169-802c-4f8a-9900-3a150efb289e/95eb4726-2be3-4177-b4de-138b9fd44e44</a></p>
<p>However, listing services like LoopNet indicate that this is indeed a new 2019 listing:</p>
<p>Listing ID: 14862467 Date Created: 1/14/2019 Last Updated: 2/20/2019<br />
<a href="https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/2345-Lafayette-Ave-Saint-Louis-MO/14862467/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/2345-Lafayette-Ave-Saint-Louis-MO/14862467/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m also virtually certain I&#8217;ve checked on the address once if not twice in the last year and haven&#8217;t turned up information about it being put on the market before, so I think it&#8217;s got to be newly on the market.  The description of the property in the printed prospectus also is poorly written with errors &#8211; perhaps having come from Scientology itself, come to think of it &#8211; which again suggests to me that the listing agents aren&#8217;t actually much involved in marketing the property, presumably because they don&#8217;t expect much to come of it.  </p>
<p>I checked, and Hilliker was the agency listing the property when Scientology bought it in 2007:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library-item.php?iid=3945" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library-item.php?iid=3945</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that Scientology previously tried selling the building through Hilliker, thinking that the firm that sold it last time would be a good go-to, and that it was done so quietly that there is no sign of it to be found.  The similar never-occupied and never-to-be occupied zombie building in Boston has also been through 2 attempts (at least) to sell it, and my guess is that Scientology is a difficult client to work with, including having unreasonable expectations about recovering cost from a white elephant property they probably first overpaid for, and then mis-managed and neglected.</p>
<p>The really sad thing to me, is that given a sale at a loss, Scientology will have squandered money that they coerced from locals at such terrible costs as members ending up losing their own homes and going bankrupt.</p>
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		By: Outsider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Outsider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 06:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256471&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

The personality of the CoS is that of a psychopath or sociopath. Because  that&#039;s what Hubbard was. (Or BPD at the very least.) And SOB is definitely a sociopath. The organization as a whole reflects those same traits.
The poor parishioners are caught in that in the same way that the family of a psychopath/sociopath/BPD sufferer are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256471">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>The personality of the CoS is that of a psychopath or sociopath. Because  that&#8217;s what Hubbard was. (Or BPD at the very least.) And SOB is definitely a sociopath. The organization as a whole reflects those same traits.<br />
The poor parishioners are caught in that in the same way that the family of a psychopath/sociopath/BPD sufferer are.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 06:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256748&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

Speaking of context, I  realized I should mention that failing (and fraudulent) businesses also often resort to financial trickery  to inflate assets, such as the example of Enron.  That&#039;s what I suspect Miscavige is doing internally with the ideal org &quot;expansion&quot; - claiming his &quot;stat&quot; of total assets is going up, when the reality is, that like a new car, they have a market value substantially less than cost from the first day they&#039;re put into use.

From what I&#039;ve seen, it&#039;s also typical of failing small businesses, particularly well-established and family-run ones, that long-time employees often have very co-dependent and enabling relationships with firm.  They will do things like ignore lapses in pay in hopes of keeping the enterprise going - that&#039;s much the same sort of dynamic as goes on in Scientology local orgs, where people rely on moonlighting or spouses to actually make ends meet.

And it&#039;s not only “great civilizations” that go on sprees of monument building, but other otherwise un-noteworthy ones with megalomaniac leaders who have outsized aspirations - such as Ceaușescu&#039;s (nominally Communist) Romania, with his private palaces and grand government buildings; or the Duvaliers of Haiti.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-financial-crimes-new-zealand-edition/#comment-256748">Kat LaRue</a>.</p>
<p>Speaking of context, I  realized I should mention that failing (and fraudulent) businesses also often resort to financial trickery  to inflate assets, such as the example of Enron.  That&#8217;s what I suspect Miscavige is doing internally with the ideal org &#8220;expansion&#8221; &#8211; claiming his &#8220;stat&#8221; of total assets is going up, when the reality is, that like a new car, they have a market value substantially less than cost from the first day they&#8217;re put into use.</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen, it&#8217;s also typical of failing small businesses, particularly well-established and family-run ones, that long-time employees often have very co-dependent and enabling relationships with firm.  They will do things like ignore lapses in pay in hopes of keeping the enterprise going &#8211; that&#8217;s much the same sort of dynamic as goes on in Scientology local orgs, where people rely on moonlighting or spouses to actually make ends meet.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not only “great civilizations” that go on sprees of monument building, but other otherwise un-noteworthy ones with megalomaniac leaders who have outsized aspirations &#8211; such as Ceaușescu&#8217;s (nominally Communist) Romania, with his private palaces and grand government buildings; or the Duvaliers of Haiti.</p>
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