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		By: Jere Lull (37 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-215432</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-183026&quot;&gt;Thetaclear&lt;/a&gt;.

Thetaclear:  Have you perchance heard the age-old Usenet wisdom:&quot;Don&#039;t feed the trolls!&quot;?  Ignoring FOOL dropped my bloodpressure by 12 points a while ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-183026">Thetaclear</a>.</p>
<p>Thetaclear:  Have you perchance heard the age-old Usenet wisdom:&#8221;Don&#8217;t feed the trolls!&#8221;?  Ignoring FOOL dropped my bloodpressure by 12 points a while ago.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (37 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-215431</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull (37 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2018 12:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182697&quot;&gt;zemooo&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey! Pastafarianism is at least FUN, $cientology stopped having fun back in the &#039;60s, about the time that J&#038;D came out.  Since, staff are afraid to ALLOW fun and happiness to occur.

And there ain&#039;t noless fun guy than Dwarfenführer, hisself.  It&#039;s only us &quot;bitter defrocked apostates&quot;, who can enjoy life, though it seems the best chuckles come from schadenfreude that comes from  watching them frantically try to bail out a sinking Titanic with teaspoons]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182697">zemooo</a>.</p>
<p>Hey! Pastafarianism is at least FUN, $cientology stopped having fun back in the &#8217;60s, about the time that J&amp;D came out.  Since, staff are afraid to ALLOW fun and happiness to occur.</p>
<p>And there ain&#8217;t noless fun guy than Dwarfenführer, hisself.  It&#8217;s only us &#8220;bitter defrocked apostates&#8221;, who can enjoy life, though it seems the best chuckles come from schadenfreude that comes from  watching them frantically try to bail out a sinking Titanic with teaspoons</p>
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		By: Thetaclear		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-183026</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2017 02:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-183015&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Well I have stated the truth as observed, even the unpalatable stuff, whereas you (and Terra) have altered and exaggerated things to suit your own anti-Scientology agendas.&quot;



Oh, dear! What a marvelous research subject you are concerning the obstruction of critical thinking that Scientology represents. For your knowledge, 99% of the people who participate in or read this blog, and 99% of the population who has ever heard anything about Scn,  HAS an anti-Scientology &quot;agenda&quot;. Wake up and smell the coffee, buddy. Our &quot;agenda&quot; is to end the Human Rights abuses that the use of LRH&#039;s policies in a TOTALLY unadulterated form,  have caused in thousands of individuals in the name of &quot;freedom&quot;. And YOU, my dear friend, by blinding defending LRH while erroneously attributing all the abuses to DM, are an accomplice of such crimes as EVERY Scientologist who oppose the criticism of Scn&#039;s many destructive facets, is guilty of. 



For me,  you and other KSW supporters and LRH sympathizers,  are not any less criminals than the ones from the CofS, because in your particular case, you Indies guys and gals HAVE ALREADY been exposed to all the documented EVIDENCE against Scn and LRH&#039;s OBVIOUS methods of thought control, incredible blatant lies, and abusive tactics to deal with the &quot;critics&quot;.  But in spite of the OVERWHELMING evidence, you choose to remain blind to it all, and fail to PUBLICLY recognize and acknowledge where LRH was very wrong regarding his many violations of Human Rights. 



I can&#039;t excuse any of you guys as being under the &quot;undue influence&quot; of it all, because unlike the still-ins, who can&#039;t even read the internet, you guys and gals have ALL the necessary WELL RESEARCHED  books and documentaries at your disposal, and you either REFUSE to unbiasedly take at look at them, or dismiss it all with all kinds of stupid and silly &quot;conspiracy theories&quot;, such as the ones that delusionals  crooked ex-lawyer Merrell Vannier and MS2 member of the board of directors Tom Martiniano use to ease off your cognitive dissonances with the subject of Scientology.



Would you do me a special favor? Get a real life, buddy, :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-183015">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well I have stated the truth as observed, even the unpalatable stuff, whereas you (and Terra) have altered and exaggerated things to suit your own anti-Scientology agendas.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, dear! What a marvelous research subject you are concerning the obstruction of critical thinking that Scientology represents. For your knowledge, 99% of the people who participate in or read this blog, and 99% of the population who has ever heard anything about Scn,  HAS an anti-Scientology &#8220;agenda&#8221;. Wake up and smell the coffee, buddy. Our &#8220;agenda&#8221; is to end the Human Rights abuses that the use of LRH&#8217;s policies in a TOTALLY unadulterated form,  have caused in thousands of individuals in the name of &#8220;freedom&#8221;. And YOU, my dear friend, by blinding defending LRH while erroneously attributing all the abuses to DM, are an accomplice of such crimes as EVERY Scientologist who oppose the criticism of Scn&#8217;s many destructive facets, is guilty of. </p>
<p>For me,  you and other KSW supporters and LRH sympathizers,  are not any less criminals than the ones from the CofS, because in your particular case, you Indies guys and gals HAVE ALREADY been exposed to all the documented EVIDENCE against Scn and LRH&#8217;s OBVIOUS methods of thought control, incredible blatant lies, and abusive tactics to deal with the &#8220;critics&#8221;.  But in spite of the OVERWHELMING evidence, you choose to remain blind to it all, and fail to PUBLICLY recognize and acknowledge where LRH was very wrong regarding his many violations of Human Rights. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t excuse any of you guys as being under the &#8220;undue influence&#8221; of it all, because unlike the still-ins, who can&#8217;t even read the internet, you guys and gals have ALL the necessary WELL RESEARCHED  books and documentaries at your disposal, and you either REFUSE to unbiasedly take at look at them, or dismiss it all with all kinds of stupid and silly &#8220;conspiracy theories&#8221;, such as the ones that delusionals  crooked ex-lawyer Merrell Vannier and MS2 member of the board of directors Tom Martiniano use to ease off your cognitive dissonances with the subject of Scientology.</p>
<p>Would you do me a special favor? Get a real life, buddy, 🙂</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-183019</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2017 01:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-183015&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;anti-Scientology agendas&quot;

Ron-bot troll alert.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-183015">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;anti-Scientology agendas&#8221;</p>
<p>Ron-bot troll alert.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2017 00:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182816&quot;&gt;Thetaclear&lt;/a&gt;.

Well I have stated the truth as observed, even the unpalatable stuff, whereas you (and Terra) have altered and exaggerated things to suit your own anti-Scientology agendas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182816">Thetaclear</a>.</p>
<p>Well I have stated the truth as observed, even the unpalatable stuff, whereas you (and Terra) have altered and exaggerated things to suit your own anti-Scientology agendas.</p>
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		By: secretfornow		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182965</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2017 16:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182946&quot;&gt;T-Marie&lt;/a&gt;.

(and THANK YOU for all of your caring.  You sound like someone I would have loved to work with.  I was horrified to find myself falling in love with my auditors.  I got used it to.  Every one of my great auditors I was in love with, but I also knew it was to be expected.  Just something to confess here and there!)  :)  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182946">T-Marie</a>.</p>
<p>(and THANK YOU for all of your caring.  You sound like someone I would have loved to work with.  I was horrified to find myself falling in love with my auditors.  I got used it to.  Every one of my great auditors I was in love with, but I also knew it was to be expected.  Just something to confess here and there!)  🙂  🙂</p>
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		By: secretfornow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2017 16:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182946&quot;&gt;T-Marie&lt;/a&gt;.

we may be an aging group of fools who threw our lives away following the ravings of a lying fat man obsessed with power and aliens...

but we&#039;re also a bunch of people who would work our guts out seven days a week for no money, live hand to mouth, put up with all kinds of injustice, belittling, and shouting ... just

for the privilege

of trying to help

the person in front of us.

.........
We&#039;re a good bunch, we are.  I hope you&#039;re having as much fun as I am, discovering new little ways to join in and help, small civic opportunities abound.  It&#039;s rather soothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182946">T-Marie</a>.</p>
<p>we may be an aging group of fools who threw our lives away following the ravings of a lying fat man obsessed with power and aliens&#8230;</p>
<p>but we&#8217;re also a bunch of people who would work our guts out seven days a week for no money, live hand to mouth, put up with all kinds of injustice, belittling, and shouting &#8230; just</p>
<p>for the privilege</p>
<p>of trying to help</p>
<p>the person in front of us.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
We&#8217;re a good bunch, we are.  I hope you&#8217;re having as much fun as I am, discovering new little ways to join in and help, small civic opportunities abound.  It&#8217;s rather soothing.</p>
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		By: T-Marie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T-Marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2017 05:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182881&quot;&gt;secretfornow&lt;/a&gt;.

secretfornow - TOTALLY. I felt guilty auditing paying public! I&#039;m pretty vain and I studied and trained hard to be good, but come on!!! I should have been auditing students and staff, not people paying that kind of money for pro auditors! It really put me in an awkward position. How could I possibly be as good as an experienced auditor? I felt so guilty if I got crammed on something. 

I didn&#039;t get many crams though and in retrospect, I think because I did absolutely CARE about the person in front of me, I could &quot;wing it&quot; and resolve anything to F/N VGIs. Of course, most of the male PCs I had thought I loved them and wanted a relationship with them. Even some females thought the same thing, which freaked me out. Whatever. I would do TR0 bullbait on it to flatten my buttons and carry on. The PCs never knew I was freaking out on the inside, but I did. LOL
I did care about them and my goal was for them to be happy because of their auditing with me. I have no regrets about any of my auditing of others. I know I helped them in some way, even if it was by my sheer desire to do so, regardless of what tech I used. 

OT7- Oh the naivete, huh? Damn us. ;)  Live and Learn. Live and Learn. Ugh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182881">secretfornow</a>.</p>
<p>secretfornow &#8211; TOTALLY. I felt guilty auditing paying public! I&#8217;m pretty vain and I studied and trained hard to be good, but come on!!! I should have been auditing students and staff, not people paying that kind of money for pro auditors! It really put me in an awkward position. How could I possibly be as good as an experienced auditor? I felt so guilty if I got crammed on something. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get many crams though and in retrospect, I think because I did absolutely CARE about the person in front of me, I could &#8220;wing it&#8221; and resolve anything to F/N VGIs. Of course, most of the male PCs I had thought I loved them and wanted a relationship with them. Even some females thought the same thing, which freaked me out. Whatever. I would do TR0 bullbait on it to flatten my buttons and carry on. The PCs never knew I was freaking out on the inside, but I did. LOL<br />
I did care about them and my goal was for them to be happy because of their auditing with me. I have no regrets about any of my auditing of others. I know I helped them in some way, even if it was by my sheer desire to do so, regardless of what tech I used. </p>
<p>OT7- Oh the naivete, huh? Damn us. 😉  Live and Learn. Live and Learn. Ugh.</p>
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		By: T-Marie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T-Marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2017 05:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182925&quot;&gt;Thetaclear&lt;/a&gt;.

Thetaclear, very much so. We had more of a &quot;psychological feed-good&quot; vibe - lower Bridge; communication, problems, upsets, hostility, change your condition kind of thing going on. No mention of religion or OT powers or any of that woo woo stuff. Just your average, everyday kind of stress that everybody on earth deals with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182925">Thetaclear</a>.</p>
<p>Thetaclear, very much so. We had more of a &#8220;psychological feed-good&#8221; vibe &#8211; lower Bridge; communication, problems, upsets, hostility, change your condition kind of thing going on. No mention of religion or OT powers or any of that woo woo stuff. Just your average, everyday kind of stress that everybody on earth deals with.</p>
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		By: Thetaclear		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2017 00:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182862&quot;&gt;T-Marie&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;This is EXACTLY the PR story we had, too.&quot;


Yeah, I imagined you had. It seems that those Missions that were mostly away from the interference of orgs, in isolated areas - such and yours and mine - shared many common denominators.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-food-chain/#comment-182862">T-Marie</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is EXACTLY the PR story we had, too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, I imagined you had. It seems that those Missions that were mostly away from the interference of orgs, in isolated areas &#8211; such and yours and mine &#8211; shared many common denominators.</p>
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