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		By: Valboski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 16:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-group-v-scientology-front-group/#comment-346665&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

I believe the fact that you are posting here in 2020 indicates that you recovered from being dead.......]]></description>
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<p>I believe the fact that you are posting here in 2020 indicates that you recovered from being dead&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Linear13		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 04:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-group-v-scientology-front-group/#comment-346788&quot;&gt;MixedMessages&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you...it’s kind of funny that Stan Lee and Jack Kirby wrote something very similar before Hubs.  Here is the copy paste from the Wikipedia entry on ‘Xenu’.


It has been speculated that the name derives from Xemnu, an extraterrestrial comic book villain who first appeared in the story &quot;I Was a Slave of the Living Hulk!&quot; in Journey into Mystery #62 (November 1960). He was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Xemnu is a giant, hairy intergalactic criminal who escaped a prison planet, traveled to Earth, and hypnotized the entire human population. Upon Xemnu&#039;s defeat by electrician Joe Harper, Xemnu is imprisoned in a state of continual electric shock in orbit around the Sun, and humanity is left with no memory of Xemnu&#039;s existence.

There are several places Hubs stole bits and pieces of his story from including other religions, new age theory and the occult...George White does a good deal of explaining about this in many of his excellent posts.  But I personally think the height of hilarity would be if the ‘Wall of Fire’ came from a Stan Lee comic book.]]></description>
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<p>I agree with you&#8230;it’s kind of funny that Stan Lee and Jack Kirby wrote something very similar before Hubs.  Here is the copy paste from the Wikipedia entry on ‘Xenu’.</p>
<p>It has been speculated that the name derives from Xemnu, an extraterrestrial comic book villain who first appeared in the story &#8220;I Was a Slave of the Living Hulk!&#8221; in Journey into Mystery #62 (November 1960). He was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Xemnu is a giant, hairy intergalactic criminal who escaped a prison planet, traveled to Earth, and hypnotized the entire human population. Upon Xemnu&#8217;s defeat by electrician Joe Harper, Xemnu is imprisoned in a state of continual electric shock in orbit around the Sun, and humanity is left with no memory of Xemnu&#8217;s existence.</p>
<p>There are several places Hubs stole bits and pieces of his story from including other religions, new age theory and the occult&#8230;George White does a good deal of explaining about this in many of his excellent posts.  But I personally think the height of hilarity would be if the ‘Wall of Fire’ came from a Stan Lee comic book.</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 23:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-group-v-scientology-front-group/#comment-346824&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

Whoops - that&#039;s a duplicate]]></description>
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<p>Whoops &#8211; that&#8217;s a duplicate</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 22:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The brain is one of the most wrongly understood organs of the body by Hubbard. His sarcastic and belittling view of the body found its crowning glory in his total devaluation of the brain in its quality of life connection in our human experience. 

When I was a Scientologist, whenever any wog would even say the word brain, my Scientology know it all - well indoctrinated - arrogance would kick in and I felt obliged to save another wog from eternal damnation and tout my superior knowledge of an incorporeal soul.

My studies of the brain and it’s relation to consciousness has revealed to me Hubbard’s total dilettante experience in the matter. He had no idea what he was talking about. Ok, that’s not news, lol.

In spiritual studies the brain is not the source of consciousness, but is the organ or seat of it. Hubbard’s reasoning was to be condescending to the body and the brain and value only a materially independent ego.

In my spiritual studies from ancient texts and present scientific studies on consciousness, the brain is an indispensable organ which must be developed to be a clear thinking human being and even goes so far as to say that the brain cells must be in a highly developed state to become an adept, a liberated being, a Buddha, a saint or sage. The brain is that important! Within the physical brain lies, superimposed in it, the spiritual, non physical organ of spiritual intuition, insight and spiritual vision. When the brain is damaged, the brain then becomes an impediment to the spiritual side to life. We must have a healthy brain to function emotionally, mentally, physically and spiritually.

It is Hubbard’s arrogance, ignorance and ego, which yet again has past on wrong understanding to his unsuspecting disciples. It is dangerous to disregard the importance of the brain.

All one has to do to understand the dangers of such a doctrine, negating the importance of the brain, is to look at Hubbard’s brain condition at the end of his life.

He was mad, hallucinating and howling at the moon. That is the deterioration of the brain; his brain. 

And that was HIS brain on Scientology: a demented old man with a deteriorated, neuro-damaged brain!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brain is one of the most wrongly understood organs of the body by Hubbard. His sarcastic and belittling view of the body found its crowning glory in his total devaluation of the brain in its quality of life connection in our human experience. </p>
<p>When I was a Scientologist, whenever any wog would even say the word brain, my Scientology know it all &#8211; well indoctrinated &#8211; arrogance would kick in and I felt obliged to save another wog from eternal damnation and tout my superior knowledge of an incorporeal soul.</p>
<p>My studies of the brain and it’s relation to consciousness has revealed to me Hubbard’s total dilettante experience in the matter. He had no idea what he was talking about. Ok, that’s not news, lol.</p>
<p>In spiritual studies the brain is not the source of consciousness, but is the organ or seat of it. Hubbard’s reasoning was to be condescending to the body and the brain and value only a materially independent ego.</p>
<p>In my spiritual studies from ancient texts and present scientific studies on consciousness, the brain is an indispensable organ which must be developed to be a clear thinking human being and even goes so far as to say that the brain cells must be in a highly developed state to become an adept, a liberated being, a Buddha, a saint or sage. The brain is that important! Within the physical brain lies, superimposed in it, the spiritual, non physical organ of spiritual intuition, insight and spiritual vision. When the brain is damaged, the brain then becomes an impediment to the spiritual side to life. We must have a healthy brain to function emotionally, mentally, physically and spiritually.</p>
<p>It is Hubbard’s arrogance, ignorance and ego, which yet again has past on wrong understanding to his unsuspecting disciples. It is dangerous to disregard the importance of the brain.</p>
<p>All one has to do to understand the dangers of such a doctrine, negating the importance of the brain, is to look at Hubbard’s brain condition at the end of his life.</p>
<p>He was mad, hallucinating and howling at the moon. That is the deterioration of the brain; his brain. </p>
<p>And that was HIS brain on Scientology: a demented old man with a deteriorated, neuro-damaged brain!</p>
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		By: Andy S		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 19:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-group-v-scientology-front-group/#comment-346786&quot;&gt;Roger Larsson&lt;/a&gt;.

My non-existing brain tells me I don&#039;t understand this.]]></description>
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<p>My non-existing brain tells me I don&#8217;t understand this.</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cece]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh they experiance cognative dissonance alright but of course there is no word for that in LRHs language.
Stress is the only word allowed which of course is from an SP or PTS situation.
So if you are stressed and you know you are not an SP or PTS then you are simply type III or nuts, psychotic ... 
And of course we have the contradiction of never evaluate or invalidate yet it is heaped on you from day one AND the evaluations and invalidations are far from the mark of truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh they experiance cognative dissonance alright but of course there is no word for that in LRHs language.<br />
Stress is the only word allowed which of course is from an SP or PTS situation.<br />
So if you are stressed and you know you are not an SP or PTS then you are simply type III or nuts, psychotic &#8230;<br />
And of course we have the contradiction of never evaluate or invalidate yet it is heaped on you from day one AND the evaluations and invalidations are far from the mark of truth.</p>
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		By: Peggy L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peggy L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-group-v-scientology-front-group/#comment-346651&quot;&gt;jere Lull (39 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks jere - keep it simple works best for me.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks jere &#8211; keep it simple works best for me.</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 15:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-group-v-scientology-front-group/#comment-346800&quot;&gt;Andy S&lt;/a&gt;.

Andy S, Lovely phrasing. Well done.]]></description>
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<p>Andy S, Lovely phrasing. Well done.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 15:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-group-v-scientology-front-group/#comment-346719&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly Aqua.  The reason they cannot confront the contradictions is, 1+1 cannot equal both 2 &#038; 345.  One of them has to be wrong and Hubtard was NEVER wrong. By his own KSW edict.

Therefore conflicts are impossible.]]></description>
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<p>Exactly Aqua.  The reason they cannot confront the contradictions is, 1+1 cannot equal both 2 &amp; 345.  One of them has to be wrong and Hubtard was NEVER wrong. By his own KSW edict.</p>
<p>Therefore conflicts are impossible.</p>
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		By: Andy S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 13:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-group-v-scientology-front-group/#comment-346748&quot;&gt;Reade Adams&lt;/a&gt;.

Reade,

Why waste thousands on medication when you can waste millions on Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-group-v-scientology-front-group/#comment-346748">Reade Adams</a>.</p>
<p>Reade,</p>
<p>Why waste thousands on medication when you can waste millions on Scientology.</p>
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