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		By: Annie Oakley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annie Oakley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2023 19:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-511064&quot;&gt;sinjiansmythe&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for sharing your story. It has many similarities to mine. I am sorry for the loss of your mother -especially before you could reconnect with her. Devastating what this cult does to people and families. Mine left the SO and later died of cancer as well, and while we did get to reunite, the cancer cut our time short.]]></description>
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<p>Thank you for sharing your story. It has many similarities to mine. I am sorry for the loss of your mother -especially before you could reconnect with her. Devastating what this cult does to people and families. Mine left the SO and later died of cancer as well, and while we did get to reunite, the cancer cut our time short.</p>
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		By: vǝda		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-511681</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vǝda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2023 16:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-510968&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

To: David Miscavige COB RTC
From: His Ruin
Re: He doesn&#039;t have the fucking rank 

Declaring me would mean acknowledging my existence.;)

ML? A girl can dream
Future Mrs. Mickiewicz]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-510968">Alcoboy</a>.</p>
<p>To: David Miscavige COB RTC<br />
From: His Ruin<br />
Re: He doesn&#8217;t have the fucking rank </p>
<p>Declaring me would mean acknowledging my existence.;)</p>
<p>ML? A girl can dream<br />
Future Mrs. Mickiewicz</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-511111</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alcoboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2023 03:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-511040&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

To: Jere Lull
From: Alcoboy
Re: recent comm particle to an ecclesiastical dwarf.

That&#039;s telling him, Jere! The little man in charge refuses to admit that all the problems in Scientology can be traced to his doorstep. Keep it coming, brother!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-511040">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>To: Jere Lull<br />
From: Alcoboy<br />
Re: recent comm particle to an ecclesiastical dwarf.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s telling him, Jere! The little man in charge refuses to admit that all the problems in Scientology can be traced to his doorstep. Keep it coming, brother!</p>
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		By: ScientologyMakesHatersThankyouRon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 22:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hubbard is gonna make haters of his quackery, by leaving the Scientologists holding the bag with bad options for forcing the Hubbard quackery down Scientologists&#039; throats, and then condemning those Scientologists as apostates when they can&#039;t stomach the Hubbard quackery.
The Scientology causes itself haters conundrum, which Hubbard blames on the staffs of Scientology and blames on the followers who were sickened by Hubbard&#039;s quackery.  

chuck beatty
x team xenu 75 to 03 (mainly in the cult bureaucracy depts making staff Scientologists who learned to blame each other for Scientology&#039;s quackery failures, and never blame Hubbard which was disallowed)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubbard is gonna make haters of his quackery, by leaving the Scientologists holding the bag with bad options for forcing the Hubbard quackery down Scientologists&#8217; throats, and then condemning those Scientologists as apostates when they can&#8217;t stomach the Hubbard quackery.<br />
The Scientology causes itself haters conundrum, which Hubbard blames on the staffs of Scientology and blames on the followers who were sickened by Hubbard&#8217;s quackery.  </p>
<p>chuck beatty<br />
x team xenu 75 to 03 (mainly in the cult bureaucracy depts making staff Scientologists who learned to blame each other for Scientology&#8217;s quackery failures, and never blame Hubbard which was disallowed)</p>
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		By: sinjiansmythe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-511064</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sinjiansmythe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-511045&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Jere;

I&#039;m just saying that: enforced &quot;truth&quot; (churchs&#039; indoctrination), to many that &quot;cry wolf&quot; on bigotry, etc, is still &quot;technically&quot; a truth.  As I mentioned, those of us that were in - are quite aware of how difficult it is to &quot;see things from other perspectives&quot;  or to &quot;realize other truths exist&quot; - I definitely struggled with that myself.

I was being empathetic to them, for I know what it&#039;s like to have your faith, truths, belief attacked, and how I would reply if I were in the same mindset / faith.

I  know I&#039;m using an &quot;alias&quot; name - so that I guess, could perhaps lean you to think i&#039;m still in, which I&#039;m not - but simultaneously, I have family that are - and I already had a heartbreaking disconnection, and I don&#039;t think that I could go through doing that again with those that are in, hence, using an alias.  

I, have experienced the pain of disconnection:

My first disconnection, was with my mother, who was an Int staff - that blew.  I was indoctrinated to disconnect, which was around 98/99 (don&#039;t recall exactly when, may have been 2001-2002 somewhere too).

In 2019, I said to myself, &quot;F that&quot;, and started looking for her.  I found her, in 2020, she was literally living about 30 min from where I live the past few years.  However, I was never able to meet her, or talk to her.  

When I found her, in June of 2020 - She was in a hospital, due to cancer (and June 2020, if you recall, was when we were in &quot;covid lockdown&quot;).  However, On June 16th, my mom died.... 

I&#039;m not too keen on repeating this, losing someone I care about, and never being able to see them, or find out things too late.  

While I am also - utterly and completely *not* responsible for your &quot;assumption&quot; or &quot;conclusions&quot;, if you do find I wrote something that may not make sense, there could be a reason - *some habits, and some things* can be difficult to change,  I would be more grateful for more constructive comments.  I&#039;d rather you point out what it is that was written that seems odd to you - than for you to simply conclude, or assume.  

I am still learning, and I do welcome anything that would help me along that path.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-511045">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Jere;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying that: enforced &#8220;truth&#8221; (churchs&#8217; indoctrination), to many that &#8220;cry wolf&#8221; on bigotry, etc, is still &#8220;technically&#8221; a truth.  As I mentioned, those of us that were in &#8211; are quite aware of how difficult it is to &#8220;see things from other perspectives&#8221;  or to &#8220;realize other truths exist&#8221; &#8211; I definitely struggled with that myself.</p>
<p>I was being empathetic to them, for I know what it&#8217;s like to have your faith, truths, belief attacked, and how I would reply if I were in the same mindset / faith.</p>
<p>I  know I&#8217;m using an &#8220;alias&#8221; name &#8211; so that I guess, could perhaps lean you to think i&#8217;m still in, which I&#8217;m not &#8211; but simultaneously, I have family that are &#8211; and I already had a heartbreaking disconnection, and I don&#8217;t think that I could go through doing that again with those that are in, hence, using an alias.  </p>
<p>I, have experienced the pain of disconnection:</p>
<p>My first disconnection, was with my mother, who was an Int staff &#8211; that blew.  I was indoctrinated to disconnect, which was around 98/99 (don&#8217;t recall exactly when, may have been 2001-2002 somewhere too).</p>
<p>In 2019, I said to myself, &#8220;F that&#8221;, and started looking for her.  I found her, in 2020, she was literally living about 30 min from where I live the past few years.  However, I was never able to meet her, or talk to her.  </p>
<p>When I found her, in June of 2020 &#8211; She was in a hospital, due to cancer (and June 2020, if you recall, was when we were in &#8220;covid lockdown&#8221;).  However, On June 16th, my mom died&#8230;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not too keen on repeating this, losing someone I care about, and never being able to see them, or find out things too late.  </p>
<p>While I am also &#8211; utterly and completely *not* responsible for your &#8220;assumption&#8221; or &#8220;conclusions&#8221;, if you do find I wrote something that may not make sense, there could be a reason &#8211; *some habits, and some things* can be difficult to change,  I would be more grateful for more constructive comments.  I&#8217;d rather you point out what it is that was written that seems odd to you &#8211; than for you to simply conclude, or assume.  </p>
<p>I am still learning, and I do welcome anything that would help me along that path.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 13:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-510954&quot;&gt;sinjiansmythe&lt;/a&gt;.

sinjiansmythe:  As I reread yours to TRY to glean some sense out of it, my impulse is to bid you crawl back under your rock -- or into your OSA senior&#039;s office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-510954">sinjiansmythe</a>.</p>
<p>sinjiansmythe:  As I reread yours to TRY to glean some sense out of it, my impulse is to bid you crawl back under your rock &#8212; or into your OSA senior&#8217;s office.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 13:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-510969&quot;&gt;Jane Standen Bolton&lt;/a&gt;.

Burning &quot;Fleecewinds&quot; to the *ground* would have to be done QUICKLY — while the poor dear is still in dry dock.  After she&#039;s been refloated, if that&#039;s ever possible, the best you could do is burn her to the waterline. Not that I recommend that: It&#039;d be an environmental disaster with all that blue asbestos flying around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-510969">Jane Standen Bolton</a>.</p>
<p>Burning &#8220;Fleecewinds&#8221; to the *ground* would have to be done QUICKLY — while the poor dear is still in dry dock.  After she&#8217;s been refloated, if that&#8217;s ever possible, the best you could do is burn her to the waterline. Not that I recommend that: It&#8217;d be an environmental disaster with all that blue asbestos flying around.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 13:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Asking what has happened to a leader&#039;s wife, especially when the group claims to help people with their relationships, and particularly when the circumstances are so strange, is hardly bigotry or hate - this is probably the weakest claim I&#039;ve seen in that regard, that no outsider other than one of their paid shills would consider a legitimate grievance.  Even ex-Pope Benedict, who resigned - publicly - and went into secluded retirement in a monastery, still made some public appearances, received guests and was interviewed, wrote and corresponded, etc., partly due to knowing he still had a following and friends who would want to hear from him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asking what has happened to a leader&#8217;s wife, especially when the group claims to help people with their relationships, and particularly when the circumstances are so strange, is hardly bigotry or hate &#8211; this is probably the weakest claim I&#8217;ve seen in that regard, that no outsider other than one of their paid shills would consider a legitimate grievance.  Even ex-Pope Benedict, who resigned &#8211; publicly &#8211; and went into secluded retirement in a monastery, still made some public appearances, received guests and was interviewed, wrote and corresponded, etc., partly due to knowing he still had a following and friends who would want to hear from him.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 13:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-510968&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

To:David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: who’s getting cancelled.

Being declared - by you - is a joke.  YOU are the true SP, the most &quot;successful&quot; in scn&#039;s 72-tear history.  I can&#039;t think of ANYthing you haven&#039;t squirreled since you took the &quot;reigns&quot; from Ron&#039;s cold, dead hands. And you are the real &quot;why&quot;, the *WHO*  explaining why scientology has no presence in today&#039;s World. partnering with NOI?  &lt;B&gt;REALLY!? &lt;/b&gt; That&#039;s a real match made in a heavenly Ham shoppe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-haters-gonna-hate/#comment-510968">Alcoboy</a>.</p>
<p>To:David Miscavige COB RTC<br />
Re: who’s getting cancelled.</p>
<p>Being declared &#8211; by you &#8211; is a joke.  YOU are the true SP, the most &#8220;successful&#8221; in scn&#8217;s 72-tear history.  I can&#8217;t think of ANYthing you haven&#8217;t squirreled since you took the &#8220;reigns&#8221; from Ron&#8217;s cold, dead hands. And you are the real &#8220;why&#8221;, the *WHO*  explaining why scientology has no presence in today&#8217;s World. partnering with NOI?  <b>REALLY!? </b> That&#8217;s a real match made in a heavenly Ham shoppe.</p>
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		By: Arnold E		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 07:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This kind of thing always makes me feel like I need to try harder.  I posted about Shelly and articles from this blog on the Post and Twitter:

“It is a good day to ask where Shelly Miscavige might be.  Was she abducted by Xenu?  We suspect that David Miscavige, Tom Cruise, and the upper echelon of @Scientology could answer that.”  

Admittedly I have few followers and you have to dig deep to find my blog where I posted a longer version of the above.  Matt Belloni deservedly gets more attention.  But with all the time on their hands in their almost empty buildings, I might at least hope that someone would remind me that Shelly is living a great life.

Maybe the nod to Xenu scared them off.  But I am going to have to do better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of thing always makes me feel like I need to try harder.  I posted about Shelly and articles from this blog on the Post and Twitter:</p>
<p>“It is a good day to ask where Shelly Miscavige might be.  Was she abducted by Xenu?  We suspect that David Miscavige, Tom Cruise, and the upper echelon of @Scientology could answer that.”  </p>
<p>Admittedly I have few followers and you have to dig deep to find my blog where I posted a longer version of the above.  Matt Belloni deservedly gets more attention.  But with all the time on their hands in their almost empty buildings, I might at least hope that someone would remind me that Shelly is living a great life.</p>
<p>Maybe the nod to Xenu scared them off.  But I am going to have to do better.</p>
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