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		By: Mary		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-462819</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2022 02:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281902&quot;&gt;R2Hydro&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m working on a documentary about the scientology allegations against Teami and would love to hear more about your experience working there. I could keep you anonymous if you prefer. If you&#039;re interested, send me a message at https://twitter.com/gomarybetsy. Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281902">R2Hydro</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on a documentary about the scientology allegations against Teami and would love to hear more about your experience working there. I could keep you anonymous if you prefer. If you&#8217;re interested, send me a message at <a href="https://twitter.com/gomarybetsy" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/gomarybetsy</a>. Thanks.</p>
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		By: Maja		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 09:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a fan of last years Constitutional Protection Reports, too: &quot;Es ist bemerkenswert, dass die Eröffnung dieser &#039;Idealen Org&#039; in Stuttgart nicht die Folge einer Steigerung des SO-Mitglie-derpotenzials in diesem Bundesland ist, sondern sogar vor dem Hintergrund  kontinuierlich sinkender Mitgliederzahlen erfolgte.&quot;

Translation: &quot;It is noteworthy that the opening of the Ideal Org in Stuttgart is not the result of an increase in the SO membership potential in this state, but even took place against the background of continuously falling membership numbers.&quot; (https://www.verfassungsschutz.de/embed/vsbericht-2018.pdf, Constitutional Protection Report 2018, Germany)

By the way: The German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution observes Scientology in Germany and uses German intelligence services to do so. A higher administrative court decided this in Feb 2008 as the rejection of an appeal against a similar decision from 2004. (http://www.ovg.nrw.de/behoerde/presse/pressemitteilungen/01_archiv/2008/05_080212/index.php)

And the Office for the Protection of the Constitution in Saxony reported for 2018, that in recent years, Scientology had attempted to recruit within the sports. And that it didn&#039;t work out: &quot;Ihrem Ziel der Errichtung einer scientologischen Gesellschaft, wird SO in Sachsen-Anhalt nicht näher kommen. Ihr gelingt es nach wie vor nicht, Mitglieder zu gewinnen und Strukturen aufzubauen.&quot; 

Translation: &quot;To the goal of establishing a Scientology society, SO in Saxony-Anhalt is not coming any closer. It still does not manage to attract members and establish infrastructure.&quot; (https://www.landtag.sachsen-anhalt.de/fileadmin/files/drs/wp7/drs/d4273lun.pdf)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a fan of last years Constitutional Protection Reports, too: &#8220;Es ist bemerkenswert, dass die Eröffnung dieser &#8216;Idealen Org&#8217; in Stuttgart nicht die Folge einer Steigerung des SO-Mitglie-derpotenzials in diesem Bundesland ist, sondern sogar vor dem Hintergrund  kontinuierlich sinkender Mitgliederzahlen erfolgte.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation: &#8220;It is noteworthy that the opening of the Ideal Org in Stuttgart is not the result of an increase in the SO membership potential in this state, but even took place against the background of continuously falling membership numbers.&#8221; (<a href="https://www.verfassungsschutz.de/embed/vsbericht-2018.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.verfassungsschutz.de/embed/vsbericht-2018.pdf</a>, Constitutional Protection Report 2018, Germany)</p>
<p>By the way: The German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution observes Scientology in Germany and uses German intelligence services to do so. A higher administrative court decided this in Feb 2008 as the rejection of an appeal against a similar decision from 2004. (<a href="http://www.ovg.nrw.de/behoerde/presse/pressemitteilungen/01_archiv/2008/05_080212/index.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ovg.nrw.de/behoerde/presse/pressemitteilungen/01_archiv/2008/05_080212/index.php</a>)</p>
<p>And the Office for the Protection of the Constitution in Saxony reported for 2018, that in recent years, Scientology had attempted to recruit within the sports. And that it didn&#8217;t work out: &#8220;Ihrem Ziel der Errichtung einer scientologischen Gesellschaft, wird SO in Sachsen-Anhalt nicht näher kommen. Ihr gelingt es nach wie vor nicht, Mitglieder zu gewinnen und Strukturen aufzubauen.&#8221; </p>
<p>Translation: &#8220;To the goal of establishing a Scientology society, SO in Saxony-Anhalt is not coming any closer. It still does not manage to attract members and establish infrastructure.&#8221; (<a href="https://www.landtag.sachsen-anhalt.de/fileadmin/files/drs/wp7/drs/d4273lun.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.landtag.sachsen-anhalt.de/fileadmin/files/drs/wp7/drs/d4273lun.pdf</a>)</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281978</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 04:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281794&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank  you Wynski. I never realized that before.]]></description>
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<p>Thank  you Wynski. I never realized that before.</p>
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		By: Peabody		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 01:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281826&quot;&gt;White Rabbit&lt;/a&gt;.

Is that the time when miscavige created the 6 month check on otVIIs?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281826">White Rabbit</a>.</p>
<p>Is that the time when miscavige created the 6 month check on otVIIs?</p>
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		By: Kat LaRue		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kat LaRue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2019 22:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281736&quot;&gt;Florence&lt;/a&gt;.

Florence,
I think a lot of European countries have more ingrained skepticism than Americans.  Not sure why, but I’ve got friends from all over Europe and most are a bit cynical- not overly so or to the point of unpleasantness, but less willing to take someone’s word on information.  In the US, you can convince a large number of people to believe many things that would be difficult to do in most European countries (large scale).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281736">Florence</a>.</p>
<p>Florence,<br />
I think a lot of European countries have more ingrained skepticism than Americans.  Not sure why, but I’ve got friends from all over Europe and most are a bit cynical- not overly so or to the point of unpleasantness, but less willing to take someone’s word on information.  In the US, you can convince a large number of people to believe many things that would be difficult to do in most European countries (large scale).</p>
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		By: Routedout		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Routedout]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2019 21:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281694&quot;&gt;Jenyfurrr&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree Jeny. I would have picked Italy and Taiwan as well.  I’m am not sure of Eastern European countries but I have read or heard far less about them.  Western orgs as having the hardest time I think.]]></description>
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<p>I agree Jeny. I would have picked Italy and Taiwan as well.  I’m am not sure of Eastern European countries but I have read or heard far less about them.  Western orgs as having the hardest time I think.</p>
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		By: R2Hydro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2Hydro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2019 21:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281783&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

If I could afford a lawyer of that inform and likely pay grade I absolutely would. Unfortunately, I can&#039;t justify fighting a fight I don&#039;t even know for sure I&#039;ll win with funds I don&#039;t have right now - which is sad because I know what they were doing was wrong and on more than 1 occasion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281783">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>If I could afford a lawyer of that inform and likely pay grade I absolutely would. Unfortunately, I can&#8217;t justify fighting a fight I don&#8217;t even know for sure I&#8217;ll win with funds I don&#8217;t have right now &#8211; which is sad because I know what they were doing was wrong and on more than 1 occasion.</p>
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		By: R2Hydro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2Hydro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2019 21:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281842&quot;&gt;Lliira&lt;/a&gt;.

Teami Blends is an E-commerce company, but they do have some of their products in shops; they&#039;re mostly in &quot;boutiques&quot; because they try to sell their items as upscale. Their skincare items are at Ulta across Tampa Bay now. I&#039;m glad that they&#039;re not in Publix, but I know they&#039;re gonna try to get into places like Nordstrom Rack and Target after getting into Vitamin Shoppe or something like that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281842">Lliira</a>.</p>
<p>Teami Blends is an E-commerce company, but they do have some of their products in shops; they&#8217;re mostly in &#8220;boutiques&#8221; because they try to sell their items as upscale. Their skincare items are at Ulta across Tampa Bay now. I&#8217;m glad that they&#8217;re not in Publix, but I know they&#8217;re gonna try to get into places like Nordstrom Rack and Target after getting into Vitamin Shoppe or something like that.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2019 20:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281860&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Aqua, he is trapped in a  blood-money bubble. 
No joy, no love, no honest work...and if he does,
in some form or fashion, in this life or another, reap
what he has sown, you are right, it will probably be
commensurately fucked up...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281860">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Aqua, he is trapped in a  blood-money bubble.<br />
No joy, no love, no honest work&#8230;and if he does,<br />
in some form or fashion, in this life or another, reap<br />
what he has sown, you are right, it will probably be<br />
commensurately fucked up&#8230;</p>
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		By: j'		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2019 17:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281726&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

I got to the point where the defense council was complaining that they&#039;d taken up 3 hours to get to that point, with nothing actually answered.  Judging from the number of MUs Davey said he had, he came off as an ignoramus, but was more likely playing plenty crafty to avoid saying ANYthing of substance. BTW:: did he actually ID who he was at any time?  I missed it if it was in the transcript.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-germany/#comment-281726">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>I got to the point where the defense council was complaining that they&#8217;d taken up 3 hours to get to that point, with nothing actually answered.  Judging from the number of MUs Davey said he had, he came off as an ignoramus, but was more likely playing plenty crafty to avoid saying ANYthing of substance. BTW:: did he actually ID who he was at any time?  I missed it if it was in the transcript.</p>
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