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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2022 18:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-496064&quot;&gt;Sea Org Baby - Slave 4 Life&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, Sea Org Baby - Slave 4 Life -- That is really something, what you describe, and of course, I believe you. Many of us here, our good thoughts are with you and others getting OUT of the Sea Org, for all the reasons you state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-496064">Sea Org Baby &#8211; Slave 4 Life</a>.</p>
<p>Wow, Sea Org Baby &#8211; Slave 4 Life &#8212; That is really something, what you describe, and of course, I believe you. Many of us here, our good thoughts are with you and others getting OUT of the Sea Org, for all the reasons you state.</p>
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		By: Sea Org Baby - Slave 4 Life		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2022 17:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-495921&quot;&gt;Peridot&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Peridot,

Thank you, I didn&#039;t realize there exists a team in support of Mike&#039;s kids getting out, but you can consider me on it. I love that you care about them, it&#039;s wonderful. I knew them well, and remember them fondly.

I&#039;m familiar with the Happiness Rundown, been in session on just about every rundown LRH, or others, put together. After a long and weary life of abuse and brainwashing, it somehow pains me to say it, but it&#039;s my belief the gains in Scientology are untrue. 

Instead your mindset is manipulated into a state that requires you to appear to win and have successes so that you can be... acceptable? worthy? admired? loved?... left alone.

The sequence is something like this:

a. You&#039;re convinced you need help 
b. You&#039;re convinced you&#039;re being helped.
c. You need to convince others you are being helped.
d. You need to convince others, others are being helped.
e. You reaffirm and convince yourself you are being helped.
f. You need to convince others you&#039;ve been helped.
f. You need to convince others they need help.

Wash, rinse repeat.

By the way, if you&#039;re born into the Sea Org the first step is skipped, instead I was made brutally aware that I was a rather bad thetan, who needed help, by the time I was five or six. No one had to find my ruin, instead it was beaten into me. My first sec check was at seven. 

I only mention this small facet of Scientology &quot;process&quot; to point out the fact that one&#039;s thoughts and actions are controlled. In fact, they are manipulated with such finesse, and on such a gorgeously wicked and evil production line, that you end up puppeteering yourself. 

My God, having come from that, indeed, being still mentally trapped in some ways, makes me shudder. The pure, mad genius it must have taken to create that world... it just boggles the mind.

I believe in my heart that Taryn and Ben can make it out and, having walked their very path, stand as a living testament that it can be done.

But make no mistake, Taryn and Ben aren&#039;t following orders any more. They&#039;re following programming. 

And that&#039;s the sad truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-495921">Peridot</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Peridot,</p>
<p>Thank you, I didn&#8217;t realize there exists a team in support of Mike&#8217;s kids getting out, but you can consider me on it. I love that you care about them, it&#8217;s wonderful. I knew them well, and remember them fondly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m familiar with the Happiness Rundown, been in session on just about every rundown LRH, or others, put together. After a long and weary life of abuse and brainwashing, it somehow pains me to say it, but it&#8217;s my belief the gains in Scientology are untrue. </p>
<p>Instead your mindset is manipulated into a state that requires you to appear to win and have successes so that you can be&#8230; acceptable? worthy? admired? loved?&#8230; left alone.</p>
<p>The sequence is something like this:</p>
<p>a. You&#8217;re convinced you need help<br />
b. You&#8217;re convinced you&#8217;re being helped.<br />
c. You need to convince others you are being helped.<br />
d. You need to convince others, others are being helped.<br />
e. You reaffirm and convince yourself you are being helped.<br />
f. You need to convince others you&#8217;ve been helped.<br />
f. You need to convince others they need help.</p>
<p>Wash, rinse repeat.</p>
<p>By the way, if you&#8217;re born into the Sea Org the first step is skipped, instead I was made brutally aware that I was a rather bad thetan, who needed help, by the time I was five or six. No one had to find my ruin, instead it was beaten into me. My first sec check was at seven. </p>
<p>I only mention this small facet of Scientology &#8220;process&#8221; to point out the fact that one&#8217;s thoughts and actions are controlled. In fact, they are manipulated with such finesse, and on such a gorgeously wicked and evil production line, that you end up puppeteering yourself. </p>
<p>My God, having come from that, indeed, being still mentally trapped in some ways, makes me shudder. The pure, mad genius it must have taken to create that world&#8230; it just boggles the mind.</p>
<p>I believe in my heart that Taryn and Ben can make it out and, having walked their very path, stand as a living testament that it can be done.</p>
<p>But make no mistake, Taryn and Ben aren&#8217;t following orders any more. They&#8217;re following programming. </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the sad truth.</p>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2022 15:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494810&quot;&gt;Sea Org Baby - Slave 4 Life&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Sea Org Baby - Slave 4 Life: Thank you for stopping in here. Your words ring true, that both Mike&#039;s older children, Taryn and Ben, were always very proud of their father. This makes sense.

I am on the team that holds hope for Taryn and Ben to find their own moment of truth, each experience their final straw that breaks the camel&#039;s back and inspires them to find their path to leave. This will open the door to a proper reunion with their dad and an undoing of all this nuttiness to which they are ordered to comply. 

Something here which is extra sad and typical of C of S is the steady position they put these kids in of violating The Way to Happiness precept around Honor and Respect Your Parents. If anyone has done The Happiness Rundown—that is a nifty little rundown. Each precept feels like very old, fundamental wisdom. When you chase down the chains of instances where you did not follow a precept, it certainly can help you. It becomes easier to see and stay &quot;in the lane&quot; of doing normal, good things—like honoring and respecting your parents or those who raised you.

I offer this because what Taryn and Ben are ordered to do is an example of how duplicitous the C of S is. How steadily the C of S does not follow its own bits of wisdom. I am troubled by the &quot;overt&quot; Taryn and Ben are ordered to commit. This type of group-member-violation-of-group’s-own-stated-principles is what woke me up and got me to leave. C of S is bipolar. It just cannot seem to pick a lane and drive sanely and steadily on it. I am sad that Taryn and Ben are, for the moment, caught in this. I put out my steady good thoughts for them to come untangled, and I think they will! It’s too much burdening of them with this much manufactured hate. What a mighty thunder will be heard from each when they realize the degree to which they have been misled. Even LRH observed, “Truth, though fought, in the end prevails.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494810">Sea Org Baby &#8211; Slave 4 Life</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Sea Org Baby &#8211; Slave 4 Life: Thank you for stopping in here. Your words ring true, that both Mike&#8217;s older children, Taryn and Ben, were always very proud of their father. This makes sense.</p>
<p>I am on the team that holds hope for Taryn and Ben to find their own moment of truth, each experience their final straw that breaks the camel&#8217;s back and inspires them to find their path to leave. This will open the door to a proper reunion with their dad and an undoing of all this nuttiness to which they are ordered to comply. </p>
<p>Something here which is extra sad and typical of C of S is the steady position they put these kids in of violating The Way to Happiness precept around Honor and Respect Your Parents. If anyone has done The Happiness Rundown—that is a nifty little rundown. Each precept feels like very old, fundamental wisdom. When you chase down the chains of instances where you did not follow a precept, it certainly can help you. It becomes easier to see and stay &#8220;in the lane&#8221; of doing normal, good things—like honoring and respecting your parents or those who raised you.</p>
<p>I offer this because what Taryn and Ben are ordered to do is an example of how duplicitous the C of S is. How steadily the C of S does not follow its own bits of wisdom. I am troubled by the &#8220;overt&#8221; Taryn and Ben are ordered to commit. This type of group-member-violation-of-group’s-own-stated-principles is what woke me up and got me to leave. C of S is bipolar. It just cannot seem to pick a lane and drive sanely and steadily on it. I am sad that Taryn and Ben are, for the moment, caught in this. I put out my steady good thoughts for them to come untangled, and I think they will! It’s too much burdening of them with this much manufactured hate. What a mighty thunder will be heard from each when they realize the degree to which they have been misled. Even LRH observed, “Truth, though fought, in the end prevails.”</p>
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		By: sara		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2022 13:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[but wait, wasn&#039;t Cathy the one who left Ben and Taryn when they were babies to go to Int with Mike being the one who stayed with them?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but wait, wasn&#8217;t Cathy the one who left Ben and Taryn when they were babies to go to Int with Mike being the one who stayed with them?</p>
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		By: smokkee911		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494918</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 21:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Mike! Just wanted to let you know I preordered your book and am very much looking forward to reading it. I’ve wanted to know your story for a while. A long time ago I asked you if you had written the story of your leaving. The site you suggested I look at had it so thank you for that. I’ve always been curious to hear any more of your story that you cared to tell so I must admit I did a little happy dance when I heard about your book. 

Thank you for your devotion to bringing awareness of the dangers of Scientology for current and ex members as well as never ins like myself. I truly hope someday you can be reunited with your family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike! Just wanted to let you know I preordered your book and am very much looking forward to reading it. I’ve wanted to know your story for a while. A long time ago I asked you if you had written the story of your leaving. The site you suggested I look at had it so thank you for that. I’ve always been curious to hear any more of your story that you cared to tell so I must admit I did a little happy dance when I heard about your book. </p>
<p>Thank you for your devotion to bringing awareness of the dangers of Scientology for current and ex members as well as never ins like myself. I truly hope someday you can be reunited with your family.</p>
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		By: Paul Cocovinis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Cocovinis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 15:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494788&quot;&gt;Sarah K&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve even managed to pre order a paperback edition from here in the UK. So looking forward.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494788">Sarah K</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve even managed to pre order a paperback edition from here in the UK. So looking forward.</p>
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		By: Mat Pesch		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494860</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 10:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494783&quot;&gt;Xenu Cruise&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494783">Xenu Cruise</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		By: x Team Xenu 75 to 03 chuck beatty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[x Team Xenu 75 to 03 chuck beatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 03:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494629&quot;&gt;Todd Cray&lt;/a&gt;.

And is it funny or what, that the two followers to the &quot;Vetted Facts&quot; are trolls with names &quot;Ethan Reacher&quot; and &quot;Where Is Shelly?&quot; and that &quot;Vetted Facts&quot; didn&#039;t spot these obvious trolls?   

I pity those left holding Hubbard&#039;s bag.

Scientology really ought to unveil Xenu creatively, and milk Xenu for all they can.

Xenu is a massively underutilized unexploited  &quot;LRH Property.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494629">Todd Cray</a>.</p>
<p>And is it funny or what, that the two followers to the &#8220;Vetted Facts&#8221; are trolls with names &#8220;Ethan Reacher&#8221; and &#8220;Where Is Shelly?&#8221; and that &#8220;Vetted Facts&#8221; didn&#8217;t spot these obvious trolls?   </p>
<p>I pity those left holding Hubbard&#8217;s bag.</p>
<p>Scientology really ought to unveil Xenu creatively, and milk Xenu for all they can.</p>
<p>Xenu is a massively underutilized unexploited  &#8220;LRH Property.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Mary Kahn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 01:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494755&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes. I know what you mean. It was quite remarkable and surprisingly eye opening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494755">Rip Van Winkle</a>.</p>
<p>Yes. I know what you mean. It was quite remarkable and surprisingly eye opening.</p>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peridot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 00:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494591&quot;&gt;Rosemarie&lt;/a&gt;.

I would like to second what @Rosemarie says here. The Twitter tactics, phrases, and titles of the posts are so juvenile. It shows how much people who are Still-In honestly believe they are superior and that, by a mere utterance, can change minds and change the world. It is so silly and brutally unrealistic. 

Mike, You lead an honorable life, have a beautiful family, noble friends. Your book is going to be a bestseller. All adds up to meteoric and undeniable &quot;stats.&quot; I believe LRH himself observes: &quot;When we are doing well, the enemy really howls.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-in-panic-mode/#comment-494591">Rosemarie</a>.</p>
<p>I would like to second what @Rosemarie says here. The Twitter tactics, phrases, and titles of the posts are so juvenile. It shows how much people who are Still-In honestly believe they are superior and that, by a mere utterance, can change minds and change the world. It is so silly and brutally unrealistic. </p>
<p>Mike, You lead an honorable life, have a beautiful family, noble friends. Your book is going to be a bestseller. All adds up to meteoric and undeniable &#8220;stats.&#8221; I believe LRH himself observes: &#8220;When we are doing well, the enemy really howls.&#8221;</p>
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