I think the Clearwater mission is only open at night. I’ll check it out. But even on weekends they are pretty dead and I don’t see cars in the parking lot. Ever. It’s a shame.

Yes, Roy. Some of my favorite Flag auditors are gone. What DM did to a friend’s field group in 2004 was a direct attack aimed at annihilating a very successful field group here in Clearwater. And many other field groups as well were slammed for “out tech”. Give me a break. All those auditors had to do conditions, huge retrain cycles and never again regained the momentum they had. I lost all desire to audit as it became an extremely dangerous activity in the field.

Wow Roy McGreggor, the Rob Roy of the Indie world, strong words. But true ones. Wussologists.

Thank you Dan 351 for this reference that bears repeating: In Org Exec Course volume 0, page 15, LRH tells us how to make an org vanish;
“The product of an org is well-taught students and thoroughly audited pcs. When the product vanishes, so does the org. The orgs must survive for the sake of this planet.
LRH

and PS Roy, you’re right that DM gets pleasure out of snuffing out the most talented of auditors. And don’t forget he did away with the entire exec strata of Scn early on so that no one would challenge him. Maybe in years to come it will be in history books as an example of how one small little SP changed the face of religion and planet earth with his continual covert unmocking and derailing and destruction.

Here’s an idea. Call me crazy, but in order to bust through to the Kool Aid drinkers on the inside and get them to see, and leave, what if we did this:

Took up a collection amongst the Indies (don’t tune me out yet), and buy billboard space in prominent places in LA and especially near ASHO and AO PAC area (we could start with LA and then move on to other areas once that was a success). We buy prominent billboards and then post BEFORE and AFTER picture of “Ideal Orgs” and ask, Where are the numbers? Where are the stats? What happened? And then under it all put a web site to refer them to, such as Mike R’s blog or Marty’s Blog or Saving Scientology or IScientology or Scientology_Cult… whichever site you wanted them to go to. I guarantee it would shake up some of them, some would leave, and it would shake up DM, maybe even to the point that he would have a psychotic break (another one) and leave the church by whatever means. I remember LRH saying either in the PTS SP course or in the FPRD course that if you break the dramatization of a dramatizing psychotic, they get very ill. Maybe these billboards would be the push needed to get DM out of there. And we could save some of the people who are “in”. And it would get news coverage which is always good to spread the word. We couldn’t be sued for libel or slander cuz we are just asking “Where are the stats” and “What happened?”: and leaving it to the imagination of the reader to piece it together.

In 19 years I’ve rarely seen any activity. But I can go by several times and take pictures anyway. I’ll drive through the parking lot and see if lights are on.

And Bonnie, that is exactly what DM was hoping would happen. That the heavy invalidation, done from the top of the org board, would push you down so hard and fast that you would just pack up your cert and stop auditing . Because he HATES auditors with a deep and abiding passion. Did you know that he is personally responsible for RPFing some of the best auditors in the history of Scientology? Auditors that trained under LRH? Auditors that had certificates signed by LRH? This man LIVES off the satisfaction of snuffing out hopes and dreams and skills and abilities. Opps, I am I ranting again? Well EX-cuse me. But every word here is the gospel truth. He knows it, I know it and a LOT of other people know it too.

And while I’m commenting, I’d like to add my comments to Roy MacGreggor’s query on de-certified auditors. I am one of them. I have been an interned Class 6 auditor since 1977. I audited as a field auditor. When my certs were effectively removed by GAT I can’t tell you how invalidating that was. To get back to being a certified Class 6 auditor I would have had to pay thousands of dollars to retrain the Briefing Course and would have been subjected to a very suppressive internship schedule at Flag which, if I remember correctly was very full time, including weekends and took many, many months to complete. I actually took my beloved and hard earned Class 6 cert off my wall and stored it in a closet.

Bonnie — not sure. Any time I have been by it looks like an abandoned building. But you are really close so perhaps you could make a point of going past a few times and noting the activity level. Mike

Yeah, Tony, just spit it out 🙂