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		By: Obnosis		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5623</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 23:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s another area of hypocrisy: It is part of Scientology culture to be down on welfare, the dole, charity, etc., because of what LRH said in numerous places about rewarding downstats and nonproduction. Yet, all that orgs are nowadays are charities, begging for donations because they can&#039;t support themselves through honest exchange. When you reward non-production, you get non-production. Maybe it&#039;s just proof that he was right about that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another area of hypocrisy: It is part of Scientology culture to be down on welfare, the dole, charity, etc., because of what LRH said in numerous places about rewarding downstats and nonproduction. Yet, all that orgs are nowadays are charities, begging for donations because they can&#8217;t support themselves through honest exchange. When you reward non-production, you get non-production. Maybe it&#8217;s just proof that he was right about that.</p>
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		By: Espiritu		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5552</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Espiritu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 06:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5491&quot;&gt;Heather R&lt;/a&gt;.

I assume that you are talking about the Scientology Drug Rundown and/or the Dianetics Drug RD. These were both delivered in the COS and I believe still are. Of course they are also delivered in the Indie field. 
As far as I know auditing was never a part of the Narconon program. If anyone in a Narconon program wanted auditing they had to go to an org after completing the program.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5491">Heather R</a>.</p>
<p>I assume that you are talking about the Scientology Drug Rundown and/or the Dianetics Drug RD. These were both delivered in the COS and I believe still are. Of course they are also delivered in the Indie field.<br />
As far as I know auditing was never a part of the Narconon program. If anyone in a Narconon program wanted auditing they had to go to an org after completing the program.</p>
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		By: ThetaPotata		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5515</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5487&quot;&gt;Jane Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

I think I saw that movie, it was called &quot;Moonraker!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5487">Jane Doe</a>.</p>
<p>I think I saw that movie, it was called &#8220;Moonraker!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Blown SP		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5512</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 23:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5498&quot;&gt;Jane Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes we will help - thanks Jane Doe!!  Love your attitude!

 Tony S - some person at some point will go all the way - don&#039;t underestimate people!  Of course the cult tries to break people - nothing new there - but FRAUD is FRAUD!!  Maybe this will be the year!!  
Go Luis Go! Go all the way!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5498">Jane Doe</a>.</p>
<p>Yes we will help &#8211; thanks Jane Doe!!  Love your attitude!</p>
<p> Tony S &#8211; some person at some point will go all the way &#8211; don&#8217;t underestimate people!  Of course the cult tries to break people &#8211; nothing new there &#8211; but FRAUD is FRAUD!!  Maybe this will be the year!!<br />
Go Luis Go! Go all the way!!</p>
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		By: Wendy Munro		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5509</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 22:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5487&quot;&gt;Jane Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

Jane Doe - I wish I had heard that story about the spaceship long ago. I would have cognited a whole sooner that things had taken a turn for the dippy. Some may think they are &quot;on Source&quot; but they sound like the are &quot;on sauce&quot;.

Another explanation for Miscavige&#039;s obsession with milking the public of money, would be that an SP harms in the name of &quot;help&quot;. He gives &quot;good cause&quot;, sets up a MESTy purpose that would appeal to many, but in truth the plan is as much to disempower others (the public,staff and SO), and to destroy the church, as it is to empower himself.

Another explanation is that many in the SO have no understanding about money.  I often had the impression that regges have an almost childlike approach on the topic of money. The only thing they know about it is that they want it. And because they are not really getting much of it themselves, they have no qualms about asking for it because they don&#039;t feel out exchange at all. I once heard Brandy Shaw saying that when you reg for a donation, don&#039;t believe that the person you are asking has not got any money. They really think that the public are just holding out on them, and THAT is the reason for the resistance. Just bloody-mindedness. And they believe the public are out ethics and need to be brought to understand the purpose. Miscavige uses and abuses the ignorance and zeal of the SO, criticizes and punishes them if they do not get the &quot;product&quot; etc, and so he destroys them as much as he destroys the public and the church.

And if Miscavige was saving up for a spaceship (or even anything credible and honourable), I am sure he would he would have cut his own spending on custom made shoes and suits, private chefs and jets, cars, boats, yachts, personal accommodation, birthday parties for pals......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5487">Jane Doe</a>.</p>
<p>Jane Doe &#8211; I wish I had heard that story about the spaceship long ago. I would have cognited a whole sooner that things had taken a turn for the dippy. Some may think they are &#8220;on Source&#8221; but they sound like the are &#8220;on sauce&#8221;.</p>
<p>Another explanation for Miscavige&#8217;s obsession with milking the public of money, would be that an SP harms in the name of &#8220;help&#8221;. He gives &#8220;good cause&#8221;, sets up a MESTy purpose that would appeal to many, but in truth the plan is as much to disempower others (the public,staff and SO), and to destroy the church, as it is to empower himself.</p>
<p>Another explanation is that many in the SO have no understanding about money.  I often had the impression that regges have an almost childlike approach on the topic of money. The only thing they know about it is that they want it. And because they are not really getting much of it themselves, they have no qualms about asking for it because they don&#8217;t feel out exchange at all. I once heard Brandy Shaw saying that when you reg for a donation, don&#8217;t believe that the person you are asking has not got any money. They really think that the public are just holding out on them, and THAT is the reason for the resistance. Just bloody-mindedness. And they believe the public are out ethics and need to be brought to understand the purpose. Miscavige uses and abuses the ignorance and zeal of the SO, criticizes and punishes them if they do not get the &#8220;product&#8221; etc, and so he destroys them as much as he destroys the public and the church.</p>
<p>And if Miscavige was saving up for a spaceship (or even anything credible and honourable), I am sure he would he would have cut his own spending on custom made shoes and suits, private chefs and jets, cars, boats, yachts, personal accommodation, birthday parties for pals&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5498</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 17:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5463&quot;&gt;Blown SP&lt;/a&gt;.

I second Blown SP&#039;s plea to Luis Garcia to please don&#039;t take any settlement the church offers you in return for silence or at all.  If you run out of money due to the church drawing it out so that you&#039;ll go broke, ask for help in that case and we&#039;ll all donate to you like we did to the Headleys.  Just don&#039;t sell out please.  This could take DM down and so we are all rooting for you Luis!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5463">Blown SP</a>.</p>
<p>I second Blown SP&#8217;s plea to Luis Garcia to please don&#8217;t take any settlement the church offers you in return for silence or at all.  If you run out of money due to the church drawing it out so that you&#8217;ll go broke, ask for help in that case and we&#8217;ll all donate to you like we did to the Headleys.  Just don&#8217;t sell out please.  This could take DM down and so we are all rooting for you Luis!</p>
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		By: Heather R		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5437&quot;&gt;Martin Padfield&lt;/a&gt;.

I seem to recall that the Drug Rundown was originally part of the Narconon Proigram.
Anyone know if that is correct and if so when it was taken off the program?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5437">Martin Padfield</a>.</p>
<p>I seem to recall that the Drug Rundown was originally part of the Narconon Proigram.<br />
Anyone know if that is correct and if so when it was taken off the program?</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5490</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5487&quot;&gt;Jane Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

This is all delusory. There is no Non BPI reference from LRH. There is no spaceship. But this is about as believable as the &quot;Ideal Orgs are going to clear the planet&quot; story -- and plenty of people buy that....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5487">Jane Doe</a>.</p>
<p>This is all delusory. There is no Non BPI reference from LRH. There is no spaceship. But this is about as believable as the &#8220;Ideal Orgs are going to clear the planet&#8221; story &#8212; and plenty of people buy that&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5488</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5468&quot;&gt;Zana&lt;/a&gt;.

PS to last post.  Gary Titus, a smart and caring upstat veteran SO member told this to my friend about the SO and DM going off in a space ship.  Gary has since that time dropped his body from a heart attack.  RIP Gary.  You were always high ARC with me and your wish to help shined from you like a beacon.  I&quot;m sorry DM worked you to death so much that you died in harness without seeing any of the sights outside the bubble.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5468">Zana</a>.</p>
<p>PS to last post.  Gary Titus, a smart and caring upstat veteran SO member told this to my friend about the SO and DM going off in a space ship.  Gary has since that time dropped his body from a heart attack.  RIP Gary.  You were always high ARC with me and your wish to help shined from you like a beacon.  I&#8221;m sorry DM worked you to death so much that you died in harness without seeing any of the sights outside the bubble.</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5468&quot;&gt;Zana&lt;/a&gt;.

Zana, well since you asked, here is a possible answer.  I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s true, but a friend told me this. Here is what she said&#124;:  
A veteran upstat SO member, over 25 years in, Gary Titus (married to Debbie Titus), told her that the SO had been able to read a NON-BPI reference by LRH about leaving the planet to go to somewhere else in the solar system when things got bad enough or the time was right.  And also there is reference there and in other places of &quot;Target Two.&quot;  (as in the next planet to Clear).  And she said that Gary said that Ron said that the SO would board the rocket and launch off the planet to some other place.  My friend offered her own opinion that the reason DM is amassing as much money as he can is so that he can have the spaceship built, which takes tons of money.  One man can&#039;t possibly spend as much money in one lifetime as DM has already squirreled away (pun intended.)  So she thought he was going to use it to have a rocket built and he and his Bromance brother, Tom Cruise would be on it as well as a handful of faithful SO members who were deemed good enough to be let on the rocket ride to another planet.  I know it sounds outlandish and space opera ish, but what if?????  It would explain DM&#039;s obsession and insane drive to milk as much money as he can out of the blind flock.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-introversion/#comment-5468">Zana</a>.</p>
<p>Zana, well since you asked, here is a possible answer.  I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s true, but a friend told me this. Here is what she said|:<br />
A veteran upstat SO member, over 25 years in, Gary Titus (married to Debbie Titus), told her that the SO had been able to read a NON-BPI reference by LRH about leaving the planet to go to somewhere else in the solar system when things got bad enough or the time was right.  And also there is reference there and in other places of &#8220;Target Two.&#8221;  (as in the next planet to Clear).  And she said that Gary said that Ron said that the SO would board the rocket and launch off the planet to some other place.  My friend offered her own opinion that the reason DM is amassing as much money as he can is so that he can have the spaceship built, which takes tons of money.  One man can&#8217;t possibly spend as much money in one lifetime as DM has already squirreled away (pun intended.)  So she thought he was going to use it to have a rocket built and he and his Bromance brother, Tom Cruise would be on it as well as a handful of faithful SO members who were deemed good enough to be let on the rocket ride to another planet.  I know it sounds outlandish and space opera ish, but what if?????  It would explain DM&#8217;s obsession and insane drive to milk as much money as he can out of the blind flock.</p>
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