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		By: Doug		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 04:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246905&quot;&gt;Brian Thomas Lambert&lt;/a&gt;.

I would love nothing more than for Leah Remini to contact me.  I lived in Clearwater back in the mid to late 90&#039;s and experienced first hand, on numerous occasions, how the cult of Scientology treats gays.  I have never let how people treat me or what they say about me being gay get to me but, this cult is ruthless and evil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246905">Brian Thomas Lambert</a>.</p>
<p>I would love nothing more than for Leah Remini to contact me.  I lived in Clearwater back in the mid to late 90&#8217;s and experienced first hand, on numerous occasions, how the cult of Scientology treats gays.  I have never let how people treat me or what they say about me being gay get to me but, this cult is ruthless and evil.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (38 years recovering		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull (38 years recovering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2019 00:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246593&quot;&gt;Felix Krym&lt;/a&gt;.

Scientology lies, must lie, absolutely  cannot not lie about most of what it really stands for and its true teachings.
Describing Ron and his creations as myoptic, bigotted and highly prejudiced would be soft-pedaling it.  

If it&#039;s not offensive in scientology, it&#039;s something he read in relation to some actual humanitarian  organization and decided to appropriate it as his own, but though he might have said the words, he and scientology never actually practiced  anything remotely humanitarian.  OR  anything that actually helped better humanity&#039;s plight.  All he offered were his thoughts of what things would be like if he ruled the world.  Those of us with experience in that world of his are worse off for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246593">Felix Krym</a>.</p>
<p>Scientology lies, must lie, absolutely  cannot not lie about most of what it really stands for and its true teachings.<br />
Describing Ron and his creations as myoptic, bigotted and highly prejudiced would be soft-pedaling it.  </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s not offensive in scientology, it&#8217;s something he read in relation to some actual humanitarian  organization and decided to appropriate it as his own, but though he might have said the words, he and scientology never actually practiced  anything remotely humanitarian.  OR  anything that actually helped better humanity&#8217;s plight.  All he offered were his thoughts of what things would be like if he ruled the world.  Those of us with experience in that world of his are worse off for it.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (38 years recovering		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull (38 years recovering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2019 00:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246627&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

FOOLproof, you might have found some folks who HAD been various other religions, as I did in the &#039;70s, but not while being scientologists, CERTAINLY not after the bulletin describing Heaven as an implant station, CERTAINLY not after OT III material and doubly so after OT VIII(ANY of the versions I&#039;ve seen on the Web).  IIRC, any &quot;other religion&quot; is soundly mocked by Tubby in multiple locations, some more scathing than others.  At a minimum, the various religions&#039; icons  are discounted as being artifacts of the R6 &quot;Bank&quot;. AND I doubt that &quot;going to church&quot; was an acceptable reason for missing time in the &quot;Academy&quot;, (not that there was ANY  acceptable reason short of body death to not show up on time.) His ideas of the Eastern religions were pretty dismissive, showing plainly — even to  me, who didn&#039;t know THAT much about them — his dearth of understanding or interest or respect in them.  AFAICT, the only religion that he didn&#039;t denigrate at every chance was the worship of HIM being greater than Budda, Mohammed, and Christ combined and that he had built in scientology a society greater than any other in the past quadrillions of years. To that, I say that I found his creation to be particularly soulless, designed to shove humanity down into the muck and ooze, not lift it out of that &#039;stuff&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246627">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>FOOLproof, you might have found some folks who HAD been various other religions, as I did in the &#8217;70s, but not while being scientologists, CERTAINLY not after the bulletin describing Heaven as an implant station, CERTAINLY not after OT III material and doubly so after OT VIII(ANY of the versions I&#8217;ve seen on the Web).  IIRC, any &#8220;other religion&#8221; is soundly mocked by Tubby in multiple locations, some more scathing than others.  At a minimum, the various religions&#8217; icons  are discounted as being artifacts of the R6 &#8220;Bank&#8221;. AND I doubt that &#8220;going to church&#8221; was an acceptable reason for missing time in the &#8220;Academy&#8221;, (not that there was ANY  acceptable reason short of body death to not show up on time.) His ideas of the Eastern religions were pretty dismissive, showing plainly — even to  me, who didn&#8217;t know THAT much about them — his dearth of understanding or interest or respect in them.  AFAICT, the only religion that he didn&#8217;t denigrate at every chance was the worship of HIM being greater than Budda, Mohammed, and Christ combined and that he had built in scientology a society greater than any other in the past quadrillions of years. To that, I say that I found his creation to be particularly soulless, designed to shove humanity down into the muck and ooze, not lift it out of that &#8216;stuff&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (38 years recovering		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2018 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246746&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

FOOLproof, you were identified some years back as a troll to this community and have given me no reason to change my determination of you, so when I read your posts, I respond from that standpoint.  I strongly suspect that others also have working memories and remember your past depredations.  That&#039;s what I&#039;m seeing in others&#039; responses (and bullbaits) to you.  You&#039;re almost too  predictable to pass up , an easy bubble-dwelling poster to playfully &#039;slap&#039; from time-to-time.
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 I&#039;m usually good about &quot;Don&#039;t feed the trolls.&quot;, but you&#039;re my one exception;you lighten my day with little chuckles when I read your stuff and others&#039; responses. If you  were at all effective, I couldn&#039;t be so forgiving, I&#039;d simply slap you and be done ith it.

If you&#039;re feeling too beleaguered, try going away for awhile (again), or possibly wise up and recognize the insanity which is scientology for yourself and join us: &quot;contribute to the motion&quot;, so to speak.  Many of us  have personal reasons to be upset with scientology and transfer too easily that upset to those who mock our efforts to dismantle the evil empire, or in my case, to gloat as &quot;Dweeb Mustsavage&quot; does the dismantling SO effectively.  &quot;dweeb&quot; is SO appropriate for the Dwarfenführer — from Apple&#039;s built-in dictionary app, just one click away:
&quot;perhaps a blend of dwarf and early 20th-cent. feeb [a feebleminded person] (from feeble ).&quot;  Yup, that describes Davey-boy to a &quot;T&quot;.

Someone can help me; Is there a word that describes what he has looked like recently in the photos where they obviously shooped too-big head and hands onto his tiny little body? AND they artificially over-bronzed his spray-on tan in one of them.  Did I REALLY see evidence of corn-rows of transplanted hair  clumps in one pic that was a bit too close-up or too-revealingly lit?  Only the folks at Bosley know for sure, I guess.  He was unimpressive when I  met him soon after his blowing off  high school. His attempts at a make-over since then haven&#039;t been successful, IMO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246746">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>FOOLproof, you were identified some years back as a troll to this community and have given me no reason to change my determination of you, so when I read your posts, I respond from that standpoint.  I strongly suspect that others also have working memories and remember your past depredations.  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m seeing in others&#8217; responses (and bullbaits) to you.  You&#8217;re almost too  predictable to pass up , an easy bubble-dwelling poster to playfully &#8216;slap&#8217; from time-to-time.<br />
&#8212;&#8211;<br />
 I&#8217;m usually good about &#8220;Don&#8217;t feed the trolls.&#8221;, but you&#8217;re my one exception;you lighten my day with little chuckles when I read your stuff and others&#8217; responses. If you  were at all effective, I couldn&#8217;t be so forgiving, I&#8217;d simply slap you and be done ith it.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re feeling too beleaguered, try going away for awhile (again), or possibly wise up and recognize the insanity which is scientology for yourself and join us: &#8220;contribute to the motion&#8221;, so to speak.  Many of us  have personal reasons to be upset with scientology and transfer too easily that upset to those who mock our efforts to dismantle the evil empire, or in my case, to gloat as &#8220;Dweeb Mustsavage&#8221; does the dismantling SO effectively.  &#8220;dweeb&#8221; is SO appropriate for the Dwarfenführer — from Apple&#8217;s built-in dictionary app, just one click away:<br />
&#8220;perhaps a blend of dwarf and early 20th-cent. feeb [a feebleminded person] (from feeble ).&#8221;  Yup, that describes Davey-boy to a &#8220;T&#8221;.</p>
<p>Someone can help me; Is there a word that describes what he has looked like recently in the photos where they obviously shooped too-big head and hands onto his tiny little body? AND they artificially over-bronzed his spray-on tan in one of them.  Did I REALLY see evidence of corn-rows of transplanted hair  clumps in one pic that was a bit too close-up or too-revealingly lit?  Only the folks at Bosley know for sure, I guess.  He was unimpressive when I  met him soon after his blowing off  high school. His attempts at a make-over since then haven&#8217;t been successful, IMO.</p>
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		By: Ann Davis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2018 23:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-247189&quot;&gt;Paul&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree .]]></description>
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<p>I agree .</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2018 14:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-247121&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

No Richard, it sounds like two psycho, pathological liars being fried. marildi has shown her criminal side when siding with people who attacked children abused in the cult who came forward to tell the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-247121">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>No Richard, it sounds like two psycho, pathological liars being fried. marildi has shown her criminal side when siding with people who attacked children abused in the cult who came forward to tell the world.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2018 02:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246905&quot;&gt;Brian Thomas Lambert&lt;/a&gt;.

This sounds like Sunday Service. Hell and damnation. And btw marildi has extensive knowledge of other philosophical practices. I had interesting conversations with her on Marty&#039;s blog, particularly about nondualism which is an area of mutual interest.]]></description>
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<p>This sounds like Sunday Service. Hell and damnation. And btw marildi has extensive knowledge of other philosophical practices. I had interesting conversations with her on Marty&#8217;s blog, particularly about nondualism which is an area of mutual interest.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2018 05:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246697&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

In reply to ctemspter&#039;s comment above there is no &quot;other practices&quot; rundown (it is 1 or 2 questions on the Green Form) and wearily again, as I have stated above, if people are engaging in other mental practices no they won&#039;t be allowed to receive auditing. Thanks for repeating what I said. But try not to move the goalposts again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246697">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>In reply to ctemspter&#8217;s comment above there is no &#8220;other practices&#8221; rundown (it is 1 or 2 questions on the Green Form) and wearily again, as I have stated above, if people are engaging in other mental practices no they won&#8217;t be allowed to receive auditing. Thanks for repeating what I said. But try not to move the goalposts again.</p>
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		By: ctempster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246697&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

And also note that if you are doing other religions it is considered &quot;other practices&quot; and you will be C/Sed for an &quot;Other Practices R/D&quot; in which you are audited on each other practice thing you did including church stuff from other religions.  The goal on that auditing is that you see the light and drop all the other practices.  Once the Other Practices R/D is done you&#039;re sent to the MAA for handling.  And even yoga is frowned upon as an other practice, especially if meditation is in the mix.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246697">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>And also note that if you are doing other religions it is considered &#8220;other practices&#8221; and you will be C/Sed for an &#8220;Other Practices R/D&#8221; in which you are audited on each other practice thing you did including church stuff from other religions.  The goal on that auditing is that you see the light and drop all the other practices.  Once the Other Practices R/D is done you&#8217;re sent to the MAA for handling.  And even yoga is frowned upon as an other practice, especially if meditation is in the mix.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2018 21:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246666&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike you are correct:  People involved with other religions are categorized as engaging in other practices.

HCO PL POLICIES ON PHYSICAL HEALING, INSANITY
AND POTENTIAL TROUBLE SOURCES 
states: 

THE STRESS OF POLICY
All the above “Potential Trouble Sources” are also forbidden training and when a person being trained or audited is detected to belong under the above headings (a) to (j) he or she should be advised to terminate and accept refund which must be paid at once and the full explanation should be given them at that time. Thus the few may not, in their own turmoil, impede service to and the advance of the many. And the less enturbulence you put on your lines, the better, and the more people you will eventually help.
Scientology is an applied philosophy designed and developed to make the able more
able. In this sphere it is tremendously successful. Efforts to involve philosophy with OTHER PRACTICES bring about a slowing of our progress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-about-lgbtq/#comment-246666">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Mike you are correct:  People involved with other religions are categorized as engaging in other practices.</p>
<p>HCO PL POLICIES ON PHYSICAL HEALING, INSANITY<br />
AND POTENTIAL TROUBLE SOURCES<br />
states: </p>
<p>THE STRESS OF POLICY<br />
All the above “Potential Trouble Sources” are also forbidden training and when a person being trained or audited is detected to belong under the above headings (a) to (j) he or she should be advised to terminate and accept refund which must be paid at once and the full explanation should be given them at that time. Thus the few may not, in their own turmoil, impede service to and the advance of the many. And the less enturbulence you put on your lines, the better, and the more people you will eventually help.<br />
Scientology is an applied philosophy designed and developed to make the able more<br />
able. In this sphere it is tremendously successful. Efforts to involve philosophy with OTHER PRACTICES bring about a slowing of our progress.</p>
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