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		By: Richard Royce		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-79418</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2015 08:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78801&quot;&gt;Sindy Sloan Fagen&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree Sindy and David. Just one injustice of this kind is all that is necessary to bring into question these policies but hundreds? It&#039;s just pure evil.]]></description>
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<p>I agree Sindy and David. Just one injustice of this kind is all that is necessary to bring into question these policies but hundreds? It&#8217;s just pure evil.</p>
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		By: David J Mudkips		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-79411</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2015 02:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78661&quot;&gt;Richard Royce&lt;/a&gt;.

This. Is. WHY.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78661">Richard Royce</a>.</p>
<p>This. Is. WHY.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2015 03:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78790&quot;&gt;Richard Royce&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep, blackmail is a good way to put it, Richard.  And yes, let&#039;s find some Russian translators to translate the disconnection stories so that when they go recruiting those eastern European young immigrant hopefuls, they will see a little of the truth before they are swept up in the net.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78790">Richard Royce</a>.</p>
<p>Yep, blackmail is a good way to put it, Richard.  And yes, let&#8217;s find some Russian translators to translate the disconnection stories so that when they go recruiting those eastern European young immigrant hopefuls, they will see a little of the truth before they are swept up in the net.</p>
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		By: Sara Goldberg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Goldberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78861&quot;&gt;Chris Thompson&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you Chris.  We can have a better world where people are free to live their lives with their friends and family in peace.  Those of you out there who know things aren&#039;t right within the church, those of you who see the injustices, you can make a difference by withdrawing your cooperation from those who oppress and/or speaking out against their abuses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78861">Chris Thompson</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with you Chris.  We can have a better world where people are free to live their lives with their friends and family in peace.  Those of you out there who know things aren&#8217;t right within the church, those of you who see the injustices, you can make a difference by withdrawing your cooperation from those who oppress and/or speaking out against their abuses.</p>
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		By: Chris Thompson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This end-game of Scientology will be over shortly.  I&#039;d like to encourage all of us to begin to take our hard won experience and revelations about religion and watch for examples in our communities and around the world to carry this same debunking fight forward.  To my mind, Scientology is just a warm up.  I believe that Man cannot move forward into a better more scientific future dragging detrimental political ideologies such as religion along with him.  I know, that&#039;s harsh.  Just please consider it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This end-game of Scientology will be over shortly.  I&#8217;d like to encourage all of us to begin to take our hard won experience and revelations about religion and watch for examples in our communities and around the world to carry this same debunking fight forward.  To my mind, Scientology is just a warm up.  I believe that Man cannot move forward into a better more scientific future dragging detrimental political ideologies such as religion along with him.  I know, that&#8217;s harsh.  Just please consider it.</p>
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		By: Chris Thompson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78629&quot;&gt;Sara Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Mike Rinder.  I want to encourage others who suffer from the pain of disconnection to have hope and not to give up for Scientology crumbles by the moment.  My experience has taught me to feel for the millions around the world who participate in larger religions who practice disconnection and worse because those religions are bigger and have political clout.  Scientology is receding in the rear-view mirror, but for the rest of the world and other extremist religions, not so much.  I suffer for those people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78629">Sara Goldberg</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Mike Rinder.  I want to encourage others who suffer from the pain of disconnection to have hope and not to give up for Scientology crumbles by the moment.  My experience has taught me to feel for the millions around the world who participate in larger religions who practice disconnection and worse because those religions are bigger and have political clout.  Scientology is receding in the rear-view mirror, but for the rest of the world and other extremist religions, not so much.  I suffer for those people.</p>
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		By: Sara Goldberg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Goldberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78629&quot;&gt;Sara Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Chris.  Your story is another very sad one about what happens when the church enforces disconnection and tears families apart.  If your ex-wife only knew what she had lost and missed out on.  You are an admirable man who had the guts and integrity to say &quot;no&quot; to the abuse.  I hope you have told your story far and wide. Either way, it would be good to tell the world an update on what happened and how your daughter grew into a beautiful, productive member of society. I&#039;m very pleased to see the stories coming out on this post about other people&#039;s stories of disconnection.  The more that speak up, the sooner we can see change in the cult of Scientology with regards to disconnection and their abuses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78629">Sara Goldberg</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Chris.  Your story is another very sad one about what happens when the church enforces disconnection and tears families apart.  If your ex-wife only knew what she had lost and missed out on.  You are an admirable man who had the guts and integrity to say &#8220;no&#8221; to the abuse.  I hope you have told your story far and wide. Either way, it would be good to tell the world an update on what happened and how your daughter grew into a beautiful, productive member of society. I&#8217;m very pleased to see the stories coming out on this post about other people&#8217;s stories of disconnection.  The more that speak up, the sooner we can see change in the cult of Scientology with regards to disconnection and their abuses.</p>
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		By: Richard Royce		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Royce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78823&quot;&gt;Chris Thompson&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris T, growing back your soul is a very good description of the process of regaining your self determinism. Your poor wife has missed one of the greatest joys of this human experience, seeing her child grow up. What a sacrifice. That shows exactly where on the tone scale the Cof$ resides for staff members.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78823">Chris Thompson</a>.</p>
<p>Chris T, growing back your soul is a very good description of the process of regaining your self determinism. Your poor wife has missed one of the greatest joys of this human experience, seeing her child grow up. What a sacrifice. That shows exactly where on the tone scale the Cof$ resides for staff members.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78823&quot;&gt;Chris Thompson&lt;/a&gt;.

Wonderful comment Chris.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78823">Chris Thompson</a>.</p>
<p>Wonderful comment Chris.</p>
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		By: Chris Thompson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78629&quot;&gt;Sara Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;.

Warm heartfelt good wishes to you and your husband.  

I left the SO with my daughter SO 25 years ago.  It was a hard &quot;choice&quot; for me at the time as I was still a true believer.  However, she had been removed from our &quot;custody&quot; and put into the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087050/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Children of the Corn&quot; environment that passes for Scientology child care.  She couldn&#039;t read or write when we left and she was 8 years old. Today, my daughter&#039;s mother remains at International HQ and has had no news of her only daughter in all these years -- her &quot;choice.&quot;  

My ex-wife doesn&#039;t know that her daughter grew up; had a first boyfriend; went to a dance; graduated from high school;  served her country in the armed forces; went to college; became a doctor; married the nicest neatest guy in the world; has given us two perfect grandchildren; and the thousand other bits of natural human love and experiences that go with those missed years.  On our end, we remain hopeful, vigilant and easy to find for a happy reunion.  

It has taken me many years to grow back a soul and understand my experience.  I remain ready to help my ex-wife without any scintilla of judgement if and when she will let me.  It will be a long road of healing, but I am a patient man.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lies-and-going-clear/#comment-78629">Sara Goldberg</a>.</p>
<p>Warm heartfelt good wishes to you and your husband.  </p>
<p>I left the SO with my daughter SO 25 years ago.  It was a hard &#8220;choice&#8221; for me at the time as I was still a true believer.  However, she had been removed from our &#8220;custody&#8221; and put into the <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087050/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Children of the Corn&#8221; environment that passes for Scientology child care.  She couldn&#8217;t read or write when we left and she was 8 years old. Today, my daughter&#8217;s mother remains at International HQ and has had no news of her only daughter in all these years &#8212; her &#8220;choice.&#8221;  </p>
<p>My ex-wife doesn&#8217;t know that her daughter grew up; had a first boyfriend; went to a dance; graduated from high school;  served her country in the armed forces; went to college; became a doctor; married the nicest neatest guy in the world; has given us two perfect grandchildren; and the thousand other bits of natural human love and experiences that go with those missed years.  On our end, we remain hopeful, vigilant and easy to find for a happy reunion.  </p>
<p>It has taken me many years to grow back a soul and understand my experience.  I remain ready to help my ex-wife without any scintilla of judgement if and when she will let me.  It will be a long road of healing, but I am a patient man.</a></p>
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