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		By: Researcher :)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 16:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3564&quot;&gt;Karen#1&lt;/a&gt;.

I am very familiar with the MV org. I used to visit it from AOLA all the time to rape and pillage. I was there when Jan comped OT 8 and then the day she cam home she signed the lease for that first new building. 
The supervisor there was a huge ethics case and used to yell at students. The stats in the academy were on a 2 year danger trend ending in Non E. We visited every clear in the area and either crossed them off the list or recovered them or got doors slammed in our faces. They had the least amount of public of any of the orgs in that area. The as Karen stated they did this big relaunch and I got my first taste of Int Management lies in PR. The event showed people flooding into the org. HAHAHA. Utter bullshit. They had to round up everyone from the bay area to make it look good. No this org has been fucked for years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3564">Karen#1</a>.</p>
<p>I am very familiar with the MV org. I used to visit it from AOLA all the time to rape and pillage. I was there when Jan comped OT 8 and then the day she cam home she signed the lease for that first new building.<br />
The supervisor there was a huge ethics case and used to yell at students. The stats in the academy were on a 2 year danger trend ending in Non E. We visited every clear in the area and either crossed them off the list or recovered them or got doors slammed in our faces. They had the least amount of public of any of the orgs in that area. The as Karen stated they did this big relaunch and I got my first taste of Int Management lies in PR. The event showed people flooding into the org. HAHAHA. Utter bullshit. They had to round up everyone from the bay area to make it look good. No this org has been fucked for years.</p>
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		By: Ronn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 22:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3608&quot;&gt;Kevin Tighe&lt;/a&gt;.

No question about that Kevin.  I feel for them along that same regard.  My dig isn&#039;t so much with Jan or Marc but the situation Miscavige is putting all of those still in &quot;in&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3608">Kevin Tighe</a>.</p>
<p>No question about that Kevin.  I feel for them along that same regard.  My dig isn&#8217;t so much with Jan or Marc but the situation Miscavige is putting all of those still in &#8220;in&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3652&quot;&gt;Jane Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

Jane -- don&#039;t worry your pretty little head. The information gets to the lawyers...

CSRT = Church of Scientology Religious Trust]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3652">Jane Doe</a>.</p>
<p>Jane &#8212; don&#8217;t worry your pretty little head. The information gets to the lawyers&#8230;</p>
<p>CSRT = Church of Scientology Religious Trust</p>
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		By: plainoldthetan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[plainoldthetan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 17:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3565&quot;&gt;Chris Mann&lt;/a&gt;.

“How come all the Ideal Orgs are put in areas with no body traffic?” 

That&#039;s totally unfair! The Portland Ideal Org has plenty of foot traffic on its street. The problem is that all that foot traffic is going into or out of the gay bar across the street!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3565">Chris Mann</a>.</p>
<p>“How come all the Ideal Orgs are put in areas with no body traffic?” </p>
<p>That&#8217;s totally unfair! The Portland Ideal Org has plenty of foot traffic on its street. The problem is that all that foot traffic is going into or out of the gay bar across the street!</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 17:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3571&quot;&gt;Copper Rods&lt;/a&gt;.

I am wondering if there is a way to give this info to Luis Garcia and wife to help their lawsuit regarding being regged for Super Power and promised that is what their money would go to and it never opened?  If you could show that some of the Ideal Orgs were bought by CSRT , which as stated above, is the Super Power entity, then that would be proof that the Super Power donations were funneled off into other projects and thus would be good ammo for the Luis Garcia lawsuit.  Is there a way to do that?  (What does CSRT stand for anyway?)]]></description>
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<p>I am wondering if there is a way to give this info to Luis Garcia and wife to help their lawsuit regarding being regged for Super Power and promised that is what their money would go to and it never opened?  If you could show that some of the Ideal Orgs were bought by CSRT , which as stated above, is the Super Power entity, then that would be proof that the Super Power donations were funneled off into other projects and thus would be good ammo for the Luis Garcia lawsuit.  Is there a way to do that?  (What does CSRT stand for anyway?)</p>
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		By: Forrest		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forrest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 17:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3578&quot;&gt;Ronn&lt;/a&gt;.

Yea, a BIG sign on their building, &quot;SCIENTOLOGY&#039;&quot;. Someone sees it and Googles Scientology. What could go wrong with that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3578">Ronn</a>.</p>
<p>Yea, a BIG sign on their building, &#8220;SCIENTOLOGY'&#8221;. Someone sees it and Googles Scientology. What could go wrong with that?</p>
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		By: Nomnom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nomnom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 16:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3565&quot;&gt;Chris Mann&lt;/a&gt;.

“How come all the Ideal Orgs are put in areas with no body traffic?”
Because Miscavige, covertly, wants them to fail.]]></description>
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<p>“How come all the Ideal Orgs are put in areas with no body traffic?”<br />
Because Miscavige, covertly, wants them to fail.</p>
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		By: Kevin Tighe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Tighe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 15:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3631&quot;&gt;Kevin Tighe&lt;/a&gt;.

Now you may ask yourself, &quot;Why did the former OT VIII, Cl VIII Mission Holder of Mountain View  (who refused to sign a Cl V staff contract when Mountain View became an org)   decide to open up a center as an FSM?&quot;  Two words: Air cover.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3631">Kevin Tighe</a>.</p>
<p>Now you may ask yourself, &#8220;Why did the former OT VIII, Cl VIII Mission Holder of Mountain View  (who refused to sign a Cl V staff contract when Mountain View became an org)   decide to open up a center as an FSM?&#8221;  Two words: Air cover.</p>
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		By: Kevin Tighe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Tighe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 15:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3562&quot;&gt;Paul Salerno&lt;/a&gt;.

As I recall the center on Castro Street was started as an FSM activity by Marc Silber.  I do not think  that either Mark or the org  own the property. I believe Marc  had a certain amount of success  with the center and then turned it over to the org  either because he no longer wanted to be involved or perhaps the org wanted it for themselves. My guess is that  with additional financial burdens on the org,  especially the real estate tax on the empty building, the  continued leasing of the Castro center  was no longer possible.  It is also possible the center simply wasn&#039;t successful anymore for whatever reason so they shut it down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3562">Paul Salerno</a>.</p>
<p>As I recall the center on Castro Street was started as an FSM activity by Marc Silber.  I do not think  that either Mark or the org  own the property. I believe Marc  had a certain amount of success  with the center and then turned it over to the org  either because he no longer wanted to be involved or perhaps the org wanted it for themselves. My guess is that  with additional financial burdens on the org,  especially the real estate tax on the empty building, the  continued leasing of the Castro center  was no longer possible.  It is also possible the center simply wasn&#8217;t successful anymore for whatever reason so they shut it down.</p>
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		By: ReneeG		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ReneeG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 13:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-mountain-view-a-not-so-ideal-ideal-org/#comment-3565&quot;&gt;Chris Mann&lt;/a&gt;.

My guess is that is because the real estate is cheaper out where there  is no traffic. The cost per square foot is lower in industrial areas, and we all know it&#039;s all about the SIZE not the QUALITY. They are looking for the largest building, not the one that will reach the most PEOPLE. The Stevens Creek Idle Org is also in an area with no foot traffic whatsoever.]]></description>
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<p>My guess is that is because the real estate is cheaper out where there  is no traffic. The cost per square foot is lower in industrial areas, and we all know it&#8217;s all about the SIZE not the QUALITY. They are looking for the largest building, not the one that will reach the most PEOPLE. The Stevens Creek Idle Org is also in an area with no foot traffic whatsoever.</p>
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