To Lone Star – It’s a headscratcher of note, that’s for sure, the elevation and worship.

Mr. Rinder, I respectfully request that you delete my first reply to bixntram, his reply, my next reply, and then his final reply. I regret that I made the first reply to him. This issue with scientologists and their current fanaticism toward Trump and Q really pisses me off and sometimes I communicate before calming down. I apologize for stinking up your blog.

Thanks

Thanks Peridot. Yes, I have wondered if some Scilons think that Hubbard “took over” Trump. It certainly fits. Trump and Hubbard after all are so alike in their narcissism, and of course criminality with monetary pursuits. And the fanatical devotion to him reminds me of the Hubbard devotion among cult members.

good story to spot some light on.

And I am kind of assuming that the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology is far more interested in garnering a foothold for influence in Washington than in the plight of anyone in China..

Categorizing Republicans/Conservatives as Qanon sympathizers and Trump worshippers and Democrats/Liberals as sympathetic to radical BLM activists and antifa is media hype to encourage an Us vs. Them mentality. It’s easy to get sucked in and difficult to pull out.

@LoneStar—Copy completely what you write here. A Still-In pal, a Clearwater resident, die-hard Flag public = fully onboard for Qanon. Insisted that I adopt these beliefs same, pronouncing them to me with such conviction, like she was describing something that is tangible to anyone, able to be easily understood and observed. (Background is engineering, so this person does have it in them to discern and see things factually and objectively.)

Respecting that Mike works very hard to keep this blog non-political, I backup what you say, the item about “fanatical loyalty to Donald Trump.” I encountered this fervent passion and CONVICTION for the guy so frequently (public, staff, Sea Org members), that I formulated a theory that some C of S folks believe or have been told that Hubbard has taken over the person of Donald Trump or is—with Trump’s willingness—transmitting his will through Donald Trump.

Sounds “out there” but does it not also sound like ANOTHER belief that a group of Scientologists would take on? My Flag pal calmly and methodically explained me—as one in the know (which she is as a Flag loyalist)—that in 2015, Donald Trump “was hand-chosen, very carefully chosen. He is so able, and he was looking for a new game, something planet-wide.”

It took me leaving the group and enough distance from all this tapestry of mind-foolery to put these pieces together. It is merely a theory. The theory is inspired, as well (and explains), by some of the stuff Scientologists post on the Facebook Scientology group page (over-the-top adherence to and worship of Donald Trump).

While I do not historically identify with any political party (so would have no axe to grind with Trump or any other candidate), this fanaticism among Scientologists for this one PARTICULAR candidate hit me on a gut level as inexplicable and WEIRD.

Interesting, Lone Star, that you mention the events of January 6 in the U.S. capital. I have wondered if there might be, among those individuals arrested, a card-carrying C of S member or two. So far, nothing reported, but history, as well as the present, shows what a person (or group) will do when they possess an indomitable conviction in their beliefs.

Mike’s blog is not the place for this sort of ad hominem nonsense. I do want to say something about your previous post, where you indulged in classic whataboutism and with accusations that the U.S. has “gotten away with murder.” There’s not a nation in the world that doesn’t have blood on its hands. If you want to discuss American transgressions, fine. But, let’s talk about China first, shall we, and addressed the questions I raised before we go on to the U.S.

Out of respect to Mike and others who share here, the flame war is over. I won’t respond to whatever else you want to throw at me. It’s not helpful for all the hard work Mike puts in here.

REALLY Lone Star? The Commies in China murdered 20 million citizens in one go (and even more over time) and you equate that with the US. You are criminally insane.

Oh no! You figured me out. I am indeed a CCP troll. Doh! I just hate it when I get made!

One day……one day indeed we will take away your free speech USA!! Unless the Right wing Christofascists along with their allies in Scientology and the NOI beat us to it!

Have a nice day.