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		By: Headhunters Part II		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Just last week it was $250 to $500. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: Peggy L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2018 11:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232836&quot;&gt;Komodo Dragon&lt;/a&gt;.

So well said Komodo Dragon.]]></description>
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<p>So well said Komodo Dragon.</p>
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		By: Komodo Dragon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232502&quot;&gt;Peggy L&lt;/a&gt;.

The &quot;medicine&quot; is being able to read ideas other than what is allowed by the cult.  Ideas like those presented by this blog every day.  Being able to view both sides of an argument or concept, without having to suffer thru an ethics handling and paying thousands of dollars for the privilege.  Plus ideas and blog learning are absolutely free!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232502">Peggy L</a>.</p>
<p>The &#8220;medicine&#8221; is being able to read ideas other than what is allowed by the cult.  Ideas like those presented by this blog every day.  Being able to view both sides of an argument or concept, without having to suffer thru an ethics handling and paying thousands of dollars for the privilege.  Plus ideas and blog learning are absolutely free!!</p>
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		By: blackandwhite		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232663&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes PeaceMaker the fact that it affects our business is extra terrible.  We actually attend a Christian church here in our area on occasion and see what a church is really supposed to be doing, helping one another and the community.  One &quot;shore story&quot; we considered was indicating we&#039;ve given our heart to Jesus and to please discontinue the calls and letters but I know that won&#039;r deter them in any way, they would be even more disrespectful! Okay I&#039;ll check the ESMB and see what tips they may have.

Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232663">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Yes PeaceMaker the fact that it affects our business is extra terrible.  We actually attend a Christian church here in our area on occasion and see what a church is really supposed to be doing, helping one another and the community.  One &#8220;shore story&#8221; we considered was indicating we&#8217;ve given our heart to Jesus and to please discontinue the calls and letters but I know that won&#8217;r deter them in any way, they would be even more disrespectful! Okay I&#8217;ll check the ESMB and see what tips they may have.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2018 02:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232557&quot;&gt;blackandwhite&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re right that it&#039;s so wrong - particularly that they are constantly calling your business.  It seems to me that you ought to be able to stop that, though ending the mailings would entail doing things that might get you flagged as disaffected, with implications for your family relations, if not actually declared.  It seems to me that you may need to come up with some sort of &quot;shore story&quot; to tell the Scientology callers, implying that you have no money to spend and that their calling the business is creating bad PR for Scientology.

I&#039;d suggest you also ask this question over at ESMB, where they seem to have quite a few people experienced in getting Scientology to leave people alone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232557">blackandwhite</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that it&#8217;s so wrong &#8211; particularly that they are constantly calling your business.  It seems to me that you ought to be able to stop that, though ending the mailings would entail doing things that might get you flagged as disaffected, with implications for your family relations, if not actually declared.  It seems to me that you may need to come up with some sort of &#8220;shore story&#8221; to tell the Scientology callers, implying that you have no money to spend and that their calling the business is creating bad PR for Scientology.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest you also ask this question over at ESMB, where they seem to have quite a few people experienced in getting Scientology to leave people alone.</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2018 01:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232605&quot;&gt;Ms. B. Haven&lt;/a&gt;.

Ms. B your response was a pleasure to read.  Thx.]]></description>
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<p>Ms. B your response was a pleasure to read.  Thx.</p>
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		By: blackandwhite		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232605&quot;&gt;Ms. B. Haven&lt;/a&gt;.

Ms. B. Haven I really appreciate you taking the time to reply!  It can be lonely out here! I do have a friend with a similar past as mine (grew up in the Cult of Hell)  and we thank God we&#039;re &quot;out&quot; all the time.  She has almost her whole family &quot;in&quot; so can&#039;t do much but throw her mail in the trash and tell the registrars she&#039;s broke.  

Okay I will work on your great suggestions and fortify my employees even more.  I think I will still save the nasty letters and any promo asking for money to still try the Publication 307.  It is beyond shocking that they try so hard to ferret out people who are long gone and harass them to return, unbelievable.  The snarky comments in some of the letters are shocking and I regret I threw some away.  It&#039;s hard to not answer the phone for an out of state number when they spoof as we have client from all over the nation.  Thankfully the employees can run block most of the time.

Thankfully their numbers seem to be shrinking and yes comments on envelopes could light a spark to someone still drinking the Kool-Aid!

Thank you again!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232605">Ms. B. Haven</a>.</p>
<p>Ms. B. Haven I really appreciate you taking the time to reply!  It can be lonely out here! I do have a friend with a similar past as mine (grew up in the Cult of Hell)  and we thank God we&#8217;re &#8220;out&#8221; all the time.  She has almost her whole family &#8220;in&#8221; so can&#8217;t do much but throw her mail in the trash and tell the registrars she&#8217;s broke.  </p>
<p>Okay I will work on your great suggestions and fortify my employees even more.  I think I will still save the nasty letters and any promo asking for money to still try the Publication 307.  It is beyond shocking that they try so hard to ferret out people who are long gone and harass them to return, unbelievable.  The snarky comments in some of the letters are shocking and I regret I threw some away.  It&#8217;s hard to not answer the phone for an out of state number when they spoof as we have client from all over the nation.  Thankfully the employees can run block most of the time.</p>
<p>Thankfully their numbers seem to be shrinking and yes comments on envelopes could light a spark to someone still drinking the Kool-Aid!</p>
<p>Thank you again!!!</p>
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		By: Ms. B. Haven		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2018 16:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232557&quot;&gt;blackandwhite&lt;/a&gt;.

blackandwhite, I understand your situation because that is exactly what happened to me about 6 years ago. After being out and quietly enjoying my post-scientology life, the bastards found me even though I had moved and left no forwarding address no less than a half dozen times. That&#039;s when I got on the internet to see what was up with the current state of the cult and found this website and many other sources of information. I wanted the calls to go away and I wanted the mail to stop.

Here&#039;s what doesn&#039;t work:
   Politely asking them to stop calling.
   Telling them to stop calling.
   Threatening them if they continue to call.
   Getting put on a &#039;do not call&#039; list.
   Changing your phone number.
   Writing a polite letter to have your name taken off their mailing lists.
   Writing a serious letter to have your name taken off their mailing lists.
   Writing a threatening letter to have your name taken off their mailing lists.
   Contacting your local Postmaster to have them do something.
   Using USPS Publication 307.

Here&#039;s is what works:
   For the phone calls, this is a difficult one for a business but for your personal number there are several       options. 
      If you recognize the number don&#039;t answer. Thank the gods for voicemail tech.
      Use the call blocking feature if you have one. This is going to be like &#039;whack-a-mole&#039; though.
      Just hang up.
      Come clean with your employees and tell them of your cultic past and they will happily do the above.
   For the piles of mail, this one is easy and won&#039;t cost you a dime. Save all of the mail. When you get mailings with those handy postage paid reply cards save them. Stuff all the received mail you can back into the biggest envelopes and attach the postage paid reply cards to the envelope. And here&#039;s the key to success. Highlight your name and address so that they can&#039;t miss it. Use a bright, contrasting colored pen or marker and write several uncomfortable things that they can&#039;t miss. &quot;Where&#039;s Shelly?&quot; &quot;Do you have access to your passport?&quot; &quot;How much sleep are you getting?&quot; &quot;How much bridge progress have you been making since joining staff?&quot; &quot;How many people are studying in the academy?&quot; &quot;How is your pay compared to the number of hours you work?&quot; etc. etc. Also make sure that they have some handy references to check out. List your favorite critical books, A Piece of Blue Sky, Counterfeit Dreams, Blown For Good, Bare Faced Messiah, etc. Make sure to include some web resources too. This blog, Tony Ortega, Operation Clambake, Chris Shelton, and so on. Have fun with this but be respectful.

Usually the people that are writing and receiving letters (letter regges) are lowly new staff. This stuff will get their attention and possibly help them wake up or cause them to ask questions of their seniors. They will almost automatically become PTS. This is a good thing because it is like infecting the org or mission with a virus. Sometimes that virus can lay dormant for years, but it will revive. There is a good chance that nothing will come of it, but I guarantee a seed will be planted that will at least have an opportunity of sprouting someday. Sometimes higher ups and public people are handling these letters. They are usually doing this as a result of being in lower conditions and are making amends for their misdeeds. These letters are especially valuable in this situation because these folks are no doubt repeating these lower conditions that they have worked through many times before. This is good, because they are even more ready to see the insanity of the cult and this may just be the straw that breaks the camel&#039;s back. One can only hope.

Regardless of your good efforts, your main point will be to get of these lists. This is what worked for me. It took a couple of months, but I was able to get off of the mailing lists of over 12 orgs and missions that were inundating me with their worthless glossy promo.

As for your still in friends and family, I don&#039;t really have much of an answer for that. In my experience though is it sometimes best to just to the right thing and hope for the best for them. Hopefully one day they will come around and you&#039;ll be there to provide the love, support and understanding that they will surely need after they start to wake up.

Good luck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232557">blackandwhite</a>.</p>
<p>blackandwhite, I understand your situation because that is exactly what happened to me about 6 years ago. After being out and quietly enjoying my post-scientology life, the bastards found me even though I had moved and left no forwarding address no less than a half dozen times. That&#8217;s when I got on the internet to see what was up with the current state of the cult and found this website and many other sources of information. I wanted the calls to go away and I wanted the mail to stop.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what doesn&#8217;t work:<br />
   Politely asking them to stop calling.<br />
   Telling them to stop calling.<br />
   Threatening them if they continue to call.<br />
   Getting put on a &#8216;do not call&#8217; list.<br />
   Changing your phone number.<br />
   Writing a polite letter to have your name taken off their mailing lists.<br />
   Writing a serious letter to have your name taken off their mailing lists.<br />
   Writing a threatening letter to have your name taken off their mailing lists.<br />
   Contacting your local Postmaster to have them do something.<br />
   Using USPS Publication 307.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s is what works:<br />
   For the phone calls, this is a difficult one for a business but for your personal number there are several       options.<br />
      If you recognize the number don&#8217;t answer. Thank the gods for voicemail tech.<br />
      Use the call blocking feature if you have one. This is going to be like &#8216;whack-a-mole&#8217; though.<br />
      Just hang up.<br />
      Come clean with your employees and tell them of your cultic past and they will happily do the above.<br />
   For the piles of mail, this one is easy and won&#8217;t cost you a dime. Save all of the mail. When you get mailings with those handy postage paid reply cards save them. Stuff all the received mail you can back into the biggest envelopes and attach the postage paid reply cards to the envelope. And here&#8217;s the key to success. Highlight your name and address so that they can&#8217;t miss it. Use a bright, contrasting colored pen or marker and write several uncomfortable things that they can&#8217;t miss. &#8220;Where&#8217;s Shelly?&#8221; &#8220;Do you have access to your passport?&#8221; &#8220;How much sleep are you getting?&#8221; &#8220;How much bridge progress have you been making since joining staff?&#8221; &#8220;How many people are studying in the academy?&#8221; &#8220;How is your pay compared to the number of hours you work?&#8221; etc. etc. Also make sure that they have some handy references to check out. List your favorite critical books, A Piece of Blue Sky, Counterfeit Dreams, Blown For Good, Bare Faced Messiah, etc. Make sure to include some web resources too. This blog, Tony Ortega, Operation Clambake, Chris Shelton, and so on. Have fun with this but be respectful.</p>
<p>Usually the people that are writing and receiving letters (letter regges) are lowly new staff. This stuff will get their attention and possibly help them wake up or cause them to ask questions of their seniors. They will almost automatically become PTS. This is a good thing because it is like infecting the org or mission with a virus. Sometimes that virus can lay dormant for years, but it will revive. There is a good chance that nothing will come of it, but I guarantee a seed will be planted that will at least have an opportunity of sprouting someday. Sometimes higher ups and public people are handling these letters. They are usually doing this as a result of being in lower conditions and are making amends for their misdeeds. These letters are especially valuable in this situation because these folks are no doubt repeating these lower conditions that they have worked through many times before. This is good, because they are even more ready to see the insanity of the cult and this may just be the straw that breaks the camel&#8217;s back. One can only hope.</p>
<p>Regardless of your good efforts, your main point will be to get of these lists. This is what worked for me. It took a couple of months, but I was able to get off of the mailing lists of over 12 orgs and missions that were inundating me with their worthless glossy promo.</p>
<p>As for your still in friends and family, I don&#8217;t really have much of an answer for that. In my experience though is it sometimes best to just to the right thing and hope for the best for them. Hopefully one day they will come around and you&#8217;ll be there to provide the love, support and understanding that they will surely need after they start to wake up.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: $$cientology the road to ditch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2018 01:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-staff-headhunter-bonus/#comment-232407&quot;&gt;Glenn&lt;/a&gt;.

I love this post.  !]]></description>
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<p>I love this post.  !</p>
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