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		By: Snake Thompson's Ghost		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snake Thompson's Ghost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2019 01:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249695&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

It was &quot;Speak softly and carry a big stick--you will go far.&quot; 

TR called it a &quot;West African proverb&quot; but evidence for its usage before him during 1900-01 appears to be slim or perhaps non-existent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249695">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>It was &#8220;Speak softly and carry a big stick&#8211;you will go far.&#8221; </p>
<p>TR called it a &#8220;West African proverb&#8221; but evidence for its usage before him during 1900-01 appears to be slim or perhaps non-existent.</p>
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		By: Scribe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249693&quot;&gt;Komodo Dragon&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Komodo. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249693">Komodo Dragon</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Komodo. </p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249583&quot;&gt;Kennerado&lt;/a&gt;.

Wasn&#039;t it Teddy Roosevelt who coined the phrase, &quot;Walk softly and carry a big stick?&quot;

Strong,  capable people who are in the right don&#039;t need to bully and threaten.

Pearl clutching, Scientology style. 

The Church of Scientology is a criminal organization that can neither promote or defend itself honestly.

Miscavige ain&#039;t got no big stick.

And that phrase can in all likelihood be taken definitively.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249583">Kennerado</a>.</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t it Teddy Roosevelt who coined the phrase, &#8220;Walk softly and carry a big stick?&#8221;</p>
<p>Strong,  capable people who are in the right don&#8217;t need to bully and threaten.</p>
<p>Pearl clutching, Scientology style. </p>
<p>The Church of Scientology is a criminal organization that can neither promote or defend itself honestly.</p>
<p>Miscavige ain&#8217;t got no big stick.</p>
<p>And that phrase can in all likelihood be taken definitively.</p>
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		By: Komodo Dragon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249588&quot;&gt;Scribe&lt;/a&gt;.

That is a wonderful scribe, by Scribe.]]></description>
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<p>That is a wonderful scribe, by Scribe.</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 15:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249605&quot;&gt;Alex de Valera&lt;/a&gt;.

When one of the TOP RANK Sea Org members decides to BLOW....that about sums it all up.  Had he NOT made his unplanned quick exit we all know where Mike Rinder would have ended up.  

I can only imagine the pain his quick exit caused him...the REALITY came when the light bulb went off in his head &#038; he came to the realization of exactly.... WTF AM I DOING HERE?

To think he called Tom D&#039;....more than likely with only a few dollars or coins in his pocket IF that....to ask for help from someone he&#039;d known a long time.  I can only relish in my mind what Tom D thought when Mike Rinder&#039;s call came.  A totally unplanned BLOW, as in &quot;I&#039;ve had enough, this is NUTS&quot;.  

Yes, it must have been very hurtful &#038; demeaning for Mike to realize he KNEW he could NOT &quot;save Cathy&quot;...that he HAD to go without her....she was not going to go WITH him, she was so brain washed &#038; under the spell of COS,  &#038; had he informed her, she no doubt would have &quot;turned him in with a K.R.&quot; or quick phone call to D.M.  Her venomous accusations during her confrontation with Mike in the Dr&#039;s office parking lot STILL show she&#039;s under the control &#038; power of COS.

What is truly sad here is that there ARE painful hurtful choices certain people were forced to make...&#038; that is to &quot;save themselves&quot;....sometimes you just can&#039;t save someone who DOES NOT want to be saved.

More hurtful yet is to come to the realization that now because of what YOU have chosen to do, you are now cut off totally from family &#038; friends because of what the &quot;church doctrine&quot; demands....the often times denied &quot;disconnection policy&quot;. 

I stand up and applaud Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and ALL THOSE who spoke OUT and continue to speak OUT against the crimes committed by a &quot;church&quot;.  

Every time I think of Mary Kahn....standing up &#038; refusing to continue &quot;auditing&quot;...getting up &#038; having the cojones to turn that doorknob &#038; walk OUT that door...I feel chills run down my spine.  

To hear those words:  NO CHUCH HAS THE RIGHT TO BREAK UP FAMILIES (paraphrasing here).
WOW!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249605">Alex de Valera</a>.</p>
<p>When one of the TOP RANK Sea Org members decides to BLOW&#8230;.that about sums it all up.  Had he NOT made his unplanned quick exit we all know where Mike Rinder would have ended up.  </p>
<p>I can only imagine the pain his quick exit caused him&#8230;the REALITY came when the light bulb went off in his head &amp; he came to the realization of exactly&#8230;. WTF AM I DOING HERE?</p>
<p>To think he called Tom D&#8217;&#8230;.more than likely with only a few dollars or coins in his pocket IF that&#8230;.to ask for help from someone he&#8217;d known a long time.  I can only relish in my mind what Tom D thought when Mike Rinder&#8217;s call came.  A totally unplanned BLOW, as in &#8220;I&#8217;ve had enough, this is NUTS&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Yes, it must have been very hurtful &amp; demeaning for Mike to realize he KNEW he could NOT &#8220;save Cathy&#8221;&#8230;that he HAD to go without her&#8230;.she was not going to go WITH him, she was so brain washed &amp; under the spell of COS,  &amp; had he informed her, she no doubt would have &#8220;turned him in with a K.R.&#8221; or quick phone call to D.M.  Her venomous accusations during her confrontation with Mike in the Dr&#8217;s office parking lot STILL show she&#8217;s under the control &amp; power of COS.</p>
<p>What is truly sad here is that there ARE painful hurtful choices certain people were forced to make&#8230;&amp; that is to &#8220;save themselves&#8221;&#8230;.sometimes you just can&#8217;t save someone who DOES NOT want to be saved.</p>
<p>More hurtful yet is to come to the realization that now because of what YOU have chosen to do, you are now cut off totally from family &amp; friends because of what the &#8220;church doctrine&#8221; demands&#8230;.the often times denied &#8220;disconnection policy&#8221;. </p>
<p>I stand up and applaud Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and ALL THOSE who spoke OUT and continue to speak OUT against the crimes committed by a &#8220;church&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Every time I think of Mary Kahn&#8230;.standing up &amp; refusing to continue &#8220;auditing&#8221;&#8230;getting up &amp; having the cojones to turn that doorknob &amp; walk OUT that door&#8230;I feel chills run down my spine.  </p>
<p>To hear those words:  NO CHUCH HAS THE RIGHT TO BREAK UP FAMILIES (paraphrasing here).<br />
WOW!</p>
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		By: paulcocovinis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249539&quot;&gt;mwesten&lt;/a&gt;.

As good a showcase of Hubbard&#039;s true charcater as I&#039;ve seen - there&#039;s a policy for every mood swing!]]></description>
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<p>As good a showcase of Hubbard&#8217;s true charcater as I&#8217;ve seen &#8211; there&#8217;s a policy for every mood swing!</p>
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		By: Mary Kahn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249605&quot;&gt;Alex de Valera&lt;/a&gt;.

I love this comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249605">Alex de Valera</a>.</p>
<p>I love this comment.</p>
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		By: Mary Kahn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-no-responsibility-case/#comment-249554&quot;&gt;J. Swift&lt;/a&gt;.

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<p>?</p>
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		By: Alex de Valera		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent article Mike! It it precious to have someone like you who was on the Apollo with Hubbard, who went through the evolution of Scientology from the early days of SaintHill to the madness of the musical chairs in the hole. I think the day just a few years back, when you decided you’ve had enough and turned away from the cult, was a major step that helped all of us consider the truth of this movement and its founder. I have no words to express my gratitude to you and the many others who had the courage to speak.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article Mike! It it precious to have someone like you who was on the Apollo with Hubbard, who went through the evolution of Scientology from the early days of SaintHill to the madness of the musical chairs in the hole. I think the day just a few years back, when you decided you’ve had enough and turned away from the cult, was a major step that helped all of us consider the truth of this movement and its founder. I have no words to express my gratitude to you and the many others who had the courage to speak.</p>
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		By: piapill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 06:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,

How about the lawyers that were so successful in assisting Monique Rathbun?? Bet they WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED in reviewing this case ..... maybe A&#038;E ought to discuss the situation with them .....  just a thought. ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>How about the lawyers that were so successful in assisting Monique Rathbun?? Bet they WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED in reviewing this case &#8230;.. maybe A&amp;E ought to discuss the situation with them &#8230;..  just a thought. ?</p>
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