Was there at the bosoms party in ‘79. The binge drinking that evening by SO members including my course sup Greg Saunders was over the top.
It was a real release for most of the crew.
My how things have changed !

Ammo, if Miscavige dropped all support of Masterson, cast him loose completely, it would be for Scientology a pyrrhic victory because once thrown under the bus and declared SP by his beloved cult and COB Masterson would have nothing left to lose, and he would start to talk. And his celeb family would be outraged and start to talk. And when celebs talk, the world listens, even 3rd tier celebs like Donkey Punch. DB would have no end of fascinating and in all likelihood true stories with which to regale the media about the Church of Scientology. The cult would be toast. No, Miscavige and Masterson are joined at the hip right now. If, and only if, and/or when, Masterson is proven guilty – THEN Miscavige can (and will) throw him under the bus (publicly) while privately paying him (read; his family) for life in order to ensure that their mouths stay shut. That’s how he handled Dr. Minkoff in Florida after Lisa McPherson died. That doctor (who lost his license to practice medicine ) and his family know WAY too much. They are being taken care of well, and always will be.

“…I believe Masterson should be treated just like any other serial rapist.”

Lawrence, with respect, this kind of language is a slippery slope. When accused of some crime we are all presumed innocent in this country. No matter how much we dislike someone or disagree with someone who is accused, there is always the presumption of innocence, legally. No one should be presumed guilty. By the same token Paul Haggis could be tarred with the a “presumed guilty” brush by Scientologists who hate him for having left Scientology and spoken out about it. Do you see? Far better for us to throw our support behind a fair trial with all the evidence that should be allowed, allowed. FYI I BELIEVE those Jane Does, Masterson’s accusers. And I DON’T believe the woman who is accusing Mr. Haggis. But operating on belief. even though we’re not attorneys (I know I’m not) is at best a bad habit and at worst an extremely dangerous, slippery slope into outright Fascism. Just saying 🙂 Peace 🙂

Sad indeed.
It could easily be a maxim now with Scientologists, “good roads and good weather” only. They are so introverted the truth is like a wooden stake to a vampire.

All true and wow, don’t get me started on the comm formula – these clowns violate violate it constantly. Frequently they appear incapable of answering a simple question. And THEY are the experts of communication? Its sad, really. And as for being nattery due to MWH’s, that is right on the money. A die hard Still In (OTVII) of my acquaintance flipped out when I casually mentioned that Sea Org members get divorced a lot. “That doesn’t need to be furthered!” this person thundered at me, adding, “THIS IS NOT OK!”

Long story short I need this person for certain things so had to smooth it over, which I did.

But privately I was wondering, “Why so upset? Sea Org members DO get divorced a lot. I noticed there was no denial but instead it was expressed that what I stated “should not be furthered”…right. In other words, what I stated was true but lets not say it out loud! And THIS is an OT? Can’t confront a simple truth?

All of the above I was thinking while mouthing the correct cult words tand phrases to smooth everything and calm this poor, very nervous OTVII down. 1/2 million dollars produces THIS ? Sad, really.

Yes, common sense isn’t it, it written right in their comm formula, but Scientologists really are gun shy of anyone not in the bubble now and spit out all sorts of “I’m a victim, you’re violating my religious rights” crap. They only have themselves to blame and it could be suggested they have a huge 3rd dynamic MWH – nattery lot aren’t they?

I hear you, Yawn and I too observe the cult’s obsession with “being CAUSE” over a situation. BUT…!

It is ALSO tech that a person should not be “obsessive” cause. That word “obsessive” is my word and may not be Hubbard’s but the concept is that one must ALSO be able to be an EFFECT, and most importantly, if one is unwilling or unable to be an effect then one will not be an effective cause! Again, my words but you get the concept, and this is LRH’s concept. Ready, willing and able to create an effect; equally just as ready, willing and able to BE (receive) and effect – both are of equal importance and that is PER HUBBARD…Captain Miscavige, I’m paraphrasing Judge Judy now…”Captain Miscavige, I’m talking to you, sir!!!”

Goodness me… I did forget about that poor girl. They have a lot to answer for don’t they?

Agree. Don’t forget they got the coroner in Lisa McPherson death to change her findings by hiring her “opinion leader” Cyril Wexler to refute her findings when it clearly was Scientologys conduct that killed her. They will do anything.

Amen