No worries Aqua.
Greta

Rhesus monkeys are great, apart from the giant teeth and how they get aggressive when you make eye contact with them and the way they can carry herpes B which is fatal to humans.

Well Greta,
I am none of what you accuse me of, I am just someone who reads this blog and is also very knowledgeable on these types of drugs and how they are utilized and how they can help people that are basically in a hopeless position. My point was not wether prescription drugs kill or harm people in general but your derisory accusation that this drug is some evil poison of no benefit which is simply not true. If you had stage 4 lymphotic leukemia or lymphoma there are no alternatives as you descibe them that will be effective whatsoever. People like you are dangerous because you believe that non conventional treatments can help people when there is no evidence that this is true, unless of course you believe in science by success story and that you may spread your misinformation/ propaganda and cause people to make seriously wrong decisions. You have every right to believe in your snake oil remedies but all I asked was for you to at least have some knowledge on what you are commenting, clearly you do not. I don’t feel anger towards you rather pity for your ignorance.

Well said, Zephyr. I was wondering myself who Pied Piper is and why he/she would rear up out of nowhere to attack you so insultingly. Someone’s chain got rattled, obviously. Well, Mike, thanks. Never dull in Rinderland.

Bystander, we agree on that. I didn’t state that what the CoS did was a help flow at all. I said that what it did was a quid pro quo.

I don’t comment here often because you all beat me to the punch line stating all that I was already thinking but this time I have to say how disgusted I truly am and so glad I’m no longer on lines!

It’s not surprising that the drug has severe side effects : it’s a chemo agent.

The active molecule in it is ibrutinib – that’s a tyrosine kinase inhibitor – it provokes apoptosis (cell suicide) in cancer cells because of the way they metabolize sugar. The rest of the ingredients is just boring formulation.

BTW, just because something is found in cleaners or industry does not mean it is toxic. The most toxic substance in that medication is probably ibrutinib – again, that’s something that’s expected of a substance that is able to kill cancer cells. If you need a chemo drug and from your health consciousness “stay away” from it, you get the natural outcome of cancer, i.e., death, statistically sooner than you do if you take the treatment. I have seen people take the “natural” approach to cancer… and they had neither quantity nor quality of life. When the total mass of the tumors begins to exceed your body’s capacity to handle its waste, side effects from chemo start looking like happy memories.

Developing a tyrosine kinase inhibitor as a chemo agent is something I thought about a few years ago, when a paper about an old, old tyrosine kinase inhibitor was published. I’m not very surprised someone finally did it. Duggan had nothing to do with the drug’s development, he basically just wrote a check.

I hope these poor chemists were not forced into sciloonery to keep their jobs. Bob knows the job market in pharmaceutical chemistry is crappy these days (that’s the big reason why I changed fields), and some would probably have agreed to it to avoid flipping burgers for a living.

I must have hit quite a button for you to come out of nowhere and launch a personal attack that does not lead to a contribution to the subject under discussion. You are not a usual here.
Maybe you have stocks in pharmaceuticals, work for Duggan, his company, are an OSA troll or whatever.

You are welcome to consume all of the pills you want if you think that helps you but also do take a look at
the horrendous amount of yearly deaths caused by prescription drugs.
It is help turned into betrayal – similar to what the Co$ is doing since quite a while.

At this point we fortunately still have a choice. I care enough about the health of myself and others to research and find alternatives without side effects.
Greta