That makes a lot of sense. And actually, being that they tend to be very behind the curve when it comes to current events, they may conflate Italy with COVID and a potential PR flap there… or another attempt to LOOK like they’re so on top/ahead of the pandemic stuff so they’re requiring a week of quarantine first (which makes no sense since it’s supposed to be 2wks and he’d be better off in one of their super-super-Decon’d rooms where they could control his movements and ensure he stays in & doesn’t expose anyone) but typical to them, they do it in such a way that makes no sense.

Peacemaker,

THANK YOU for that and the links!

I had no idea they had connections to the Moorish movement – WOW – that def makes more sense. Plus how ironic that NOI/Fard constructed their belief system so similarly to Co$/Hubbard! Both of them Frankensteined together to keep up the facade and patch up the plot holes. I was going to just ignore that book, but I may read it just to better understand of what twisted “history” they’re convincing followers.

As a descendant of Eastern European Jews (some Ashkenazi) I’ve tried to learn much of the history of our family. So it baffles me how people can claim these things if they’ve learnt even a small bit of history. But as with co$, I know there just comes a point where the cognitive dissonance is such that regardless of past education, whatever the leaders say must be true as it’s just too dangerous to acknowledge that string of doubt, let alone pull it!

Rosemarie –
What’s even weirder is that he DOES have the money! They’re offering to pay whomever he stays with. The whole thing is off and I truly hope it doesn’t come together so he can’t come, poor guy!

BL –
Tony posted about it in more depth here on Sat:

https://tonyortega.org/2020/07/13/kelly-preston-dies-lisa-marie-presley-loses-son-to-suicide-scientology-still-sucks/

My heart went into my stomach when I saw she’d died. It does sound like they submitted to professional medical help, as those weren’t lightweight facilities he thanked. The poor kids!!!
Now likely having “operatives” assigned to keep them in and addressing it scientologically, telling them not to be “grief-y “ and so on just hurts my heart for them. Perhaps this will be something to help get him out if his kids are clearly being “mishandled”? I so hope extended family (not-in) will be around them as well!

Then reading about Lisa Marie Presley’s son on the same day?!? As a mom of adult sons and knowing how especially close we are even in their 20’s because of my years as a single mom (us against the world!), I can’t fathom the pain she must be in and hope she has people genuinely interested in her continued recovery surrounding her. Perhaps even the contrast between the cold scientology approach to his loss vs those not-in who will empathize and comfort might help get her daughter back out (& hopefully LM and her mom PP didn’t get sucked back in)!

Tragic, all!

Lots of love to you! Miss you… I’ve been kinda quiet because it was Haven’s 1st Bday Saturday (bittersweet) and my mom showed up on my brothers doorstep w/her latest BF on Friday. They’d driven 2600 miles (from VA) and told no one and of course wanted motel $ or a place to stay… so it’s been “exciting.” Not important in the scheme of things and I’m being careful and upholding my boundaries (thought of and was encouraged by you as it all happened!) and just expressing that I love her and can only “help” her help herself… BIG hugs to you (& to the hubby too) and I do hope you’re getting to see your daughter through all of this! Love – J

George,
That really does paint a seemingly accurate picture of how his thought process, impulsivity along with reactionary personality would jump from one thing to another and try to cover one backstory with another he picked up on the fly when challenged.
Plus the way you stated and explained above makes a lot more sense when those unfamiliar with your background and studies/writing (and not aware of LRH’s dabbling in Crowley-ism) hear you discuss the satanic influences.

I think with UTR or lurking OSA, reading some of that is thought-stopping (entheta) because they can only relate their own experience in co$ and know they weren’t reading or doing anything that had to do with satanic anything… so without some of the nuanced background you’ve provided for those of us who’ve read your work, I think it’s just “too much” and therefore “obviously false” to them.

I think your work is likely MOST powerful with those who got in as Christian or Jewish. A genuine Muslim would also find his background abhorrent, but it doesn’t seem many from that background are sucked in and what the NOI practices and believes is most certainly NOT of Islamic belief. Plus they don’t question their own leaders pushing them into scientology or anything else.

Lastly, I feel with an atheist (not those who are actually agnostic but calling themselves atheist) would also be very off-put by his background, though I don’t see natural skeptics being as easily pulled into scientology anymore – I think that heyday ended by the mid-80’s when things got more militant. So I think your work can be very powerful for so many to read

Agree “Wyn”….I’ve encountered & worked with several young and teen Autistics & it’s a challenge. One friend had a son who’d sit & shake his right hand back & forth & continue to blankly stare at it as that was his coping mechanism.

One friend’s son had multiple Grand Mal seizures…different meds didn’t work & he did pass away in his teen years. After a late afternoon nap He’d locked himself in the bathroom & they could not open the door that quickly…. .

Yes Aqua…I well remember how overjoyed he was when that child was born. They named him JETT because of John’s love of being a pilot. I had seen a few pix of him when he was very young….and then “blip” there really weren’t that many photographs like we’d see of OTHER celeb’s kids.

The loss of a child at ANY age, I can’t even imagine. They wanted another child & were Blessed with Benjamin. So sad that little boy only had his mom for 8 years…..so many tears….John was HEAD OVER HEELS in LOVE with Kelly……..I recall their marriage as well & their involvement with COS…..

I am so saddened by all of this….along with Lisa Marie’s son’s suicide….I hope they all have enough supportive family & friends.

Balletlady, Jet was autistic. Unfortunately when an autistic boy hits the adolescence years hey can suddenly manifest epileptic seizures that can kill if they happen at the wrong time. They did nothing wrong. I’ve been working with autistic children for 13 years now. Jet was low functioning. Girls can have that happen but the % is small with females who are autistic.

When Travolta’s son was a toddler I watched him in some TV interview talking about his first child. He was so happy, glowing. Thrilled to be a father. Nothing phony about it; his enthusiasm just flowed out The interviewer – I forget who it was – congratulated him on his child, his happiness…I remember that he turned to her and said, “I am just so in love with my son!” He wasn’t choosing his words, he didn’t care how he sounded. He was just…so happy, is the only way I can describe it. Not phony jumping on the couch happy like Tom Cruise. He didn’t have to prove anything; you could just see it. I personally would never doubt that Travolta loved his son very much, and that whatever he did or didn’t do for Jett was in the belief that it was best for his kid. I also believe that if the cult had told him to do something that he believed would harm Jett that he would have refused. This is just my opinion and it isn’t an informed opinion other that observation of him in that interview back in the mid-90s. Oh, I remember now; he was promoting his film “Michael”.

“ability to get off the ship and be free of constant regging”

Now THAT’S an EP for ‘ya 🙂

And yes, Lisa Marie was long ago represented to me as having “serious limitations”. Of course, the cult will say its because she LEFT, became vulnerable to SPs, etc.

Fingers crossed too that now that his OT8 wife’s untimely death has ended his sham marriage, Travolta gets the hell out.