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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2016 00:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-126283&quot;&gt;detroit12870&lt;/a&gt;.

Right, counselor, except you are in the wrong country. They don&#039;t have a First Amendment to the Constitution in Australia :)]]></description>
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<p>Right, counselor, except you are in the wrong country. They don&#8217;t have a First Amendment to the Constitution in Australia 🙂</p>
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		By: detroit12870		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2016 23:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125853&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Justice Kevin Victor Anderson QC, State of Victoria, Australia, Board of Inquiry, 1965:

&quot;Scientology is evil; its techniques are evil; its practice is a serious threat to the community, medically, morally, and socially; and its adherents are sadly deluded and often mentally ill... (Scientology is) the world&#039;s largest organization of unqualified persons engaged in the practice of dangerous techniques which masquerade as mental therapy.&quot;

I rest my case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125853">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Justice Kevin Victor Anderson QC, State of Victoria, Australia, Board of Inquiry, 1965:</p>
<p>&#8220;Scientology is evil; its techniques are evil; its practice is a serious threat to the community, medically, morally, and socially; and its adherents are sadly deluded and often mentally ill&#8230; (Scientology is) the world&#8217;s largest organization of unqualified persons engaged in the practice of dangerous techniques which masquerade as mental therapy.&#8221;</p>
<p>I rest my case.</p>
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		By: petlover1948		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 01:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125928&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

you know it!   Brain fried and unable to even communicate properly]]></description>
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<p>you know it!   Brain fried and unable to even communicate properly</p>
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		By: thetaclear		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125999</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thetaclear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125887&quot;&gt;FG&lt;/a&gt;.

FG : &quot;Yes TC their statement is clear “KSW extremist”. They don’t accept any development like CBR or anything.&quot;





Peter : Yes , FG , they just are a bunch of crazy fanatics KSW followers , not unlike any of those Churchies. And who the fuck they think they are to decide to hold anyone&#039;s PC folders ? I reserve my fucking right to OWN my damn PC folders. They are MINE to send them to whoever the fuck I want to send them to. Bunch of crazy assholes. And the corrupt ex-lawyer Merrell  Vannier (ex-spy for the old GO) attempting to &quot;legally&quot; establish the &quot;Independent Church of Scientology&quot; ; fucking  hilarious!!! My God,  what a bunch of nutties!





 FG : &quot;The point with scientology is to accept  it is a subject with basic axioms, some rules of workability, and that the “how to audit” has been quite codified if someone can evaluate data. Now comm cycle, audit or code is basic. But the what to audit is open to research. To qualify CBR of squirrel is more or less a nonsense. Doesnt me an Robertson is right, it means that the research line is continued. And people can experience.&quot;





Peter : Well , that&#039;s EXACTLY why Scn became a destructive cult ; because of people with that kind of chimpanzee mentality as LRH had as well. To think that I wanted to reform the subject , make me feel very stupid indeed. Not that I don&#039;t believe the benefits of the Tech INTELLIGENTLY applied. But WHO is appying it has everything to do with its workability and benefits. In the hands of a psycho fundamentalist extremist nutty KSW#1 follower like MS2ers , Scn becomes trouble,  trouble,  trouble.]]></description>
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<p>FG : &#8220;Yes TC their statement is clear “KSW extremist”. They don’t accept any development like CBR or anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter : Yes , FG , they just are a bunch of crazy fanatics KSW followers , not unlike any of those Churchies. And who the fuck they think they are to decide to hold anyone&#8217;s PC folders ? I reserve my fucking right to OWN my damn PC folders. They are MINE to send them to whoever the fuck I want to send them to. Bunch of crazy assholes. And the corrupt ex-lawyer Merrell  Vannier (ex-spy for the old GO) attempting to &#8220;legally&#8221; establish the &#8220;Independent Church of Scientology&#8221; ; fucking  hilarious!!! My God,  what a bunch of nutties!</p>
<p> FG : &#8220;The point with scientology is to accept  it is a subject with basic axioms, some rules of workability, and that the “how to audit” has been quite codified if someone can evaluate data. Now comm cycle, audit or code is basic. But the what to audit is open to research. To qualify CBR of squirrel is more or less a nonsense. Doesnt me an Robertson is right, it means that the research line is continued. And people can experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter : Well , that&#8217;s EXACTLY why Scn became a destructive cult ; because of people with that kind of chimpanzee mentality as LRH had as well. To think that I wanted to reform the subject , make me feel very stupid indeed. Not that I don&#8217;t believe the benefits of the Tech INTELLIGENTLY applied. But WHO is appying it has everything to do with its workability and benefits. In the hands of a psycho fundamentalist extremist nutty KSW#1 follower like MS2ers , Scn becomes trouble,  trouble,  trouble.</p>
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		By: Myke Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Myke Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 20:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125797&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

OSD, standing waves are those ones you get in West Africa that go forever and you can just stand there and ride them.  It&#039;s in Liberia http://www.surfersvillage.com/content/robertsport-best-unknown-west-african-surf-spot]]></description>
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<p>OSD, standing waves are those ones you get in West Africa that go forever and you can just stand there and ride them.  It&#8217;s in Liberia <a href="http://www.surfersvillage.com/content/robertsport-best-unknown-west-african-surf-spot" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.surfersvillage.com/content/robertsport-best-unknown-west-african-surf-spot</a></p>
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		By: Blaire Butler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaire Butler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 19:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125856&quot;&gt;TheHoleDoesNotExist&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s great news and a info, thanks for sharing. I&#039;m a huge fan of Mike Rinder&#039;s and a monthly contributor to his blog so I feel like I&#039;m allowed to say that I&#039;m disappointed that he didn&#039;t share this info with all. It could have had a bigger impact since not everyone reads the comments section. I&#039;m trying to think about why that might be and maybe he didn&#039;t have all the info? Not sure but perhaps he will consider revising and at least adding the address for people to contribute to the or project.]]></description>
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<p>That&#8217;s great news and a info, thanks for sharing. I&#8217;m a huge fan of Mike Rinder&#8217;s and a monthly contributor to his blog so I feel like I&#8217;m allowed to say that I&#8217;m disappointed that he didn&#8217;t share this info with all. It could have had a bigger impact since not everyone reads the comments section. I&#8217;m trying to think about why that might be and maybe he didn&#8217;t have all the info? Not sure but perhaps he will consider revising and at least adding the address for people to contribute to the or project.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125877&quot;&gt;petlover1948&lt;/a&gt;.

Petlover, it sounds like he&#039;s a Kool-Aid junkie with a &#039;jones&#039; on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125877">petlover1948</a>.</p>
<p>Petlover, it sounds like he&#8217;s a Kool-Aid junkie with a &#8216;jones&#8217; on.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125867&quot;&gt;Gadfly&lt;/a&gt;.

I love it when I get &#039;counter attention&#039; from one of the pretty waitresses....]]></description>
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<p>I love it when I get &#8216;counter attention&#8217; from one of the pretty waitresses&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125879&quot;&gt;GTBO&lt;/a&gt;.

My favorite thing to drink to, the end of scientology!  Here here!]]></description>
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<p>My favorite thing to drink to, the end of scientology!  Here here!</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-freedom-of-speech-out-of-both-sides-of-its-mouth/#comment-125804&quot;&gt;RogerHornaday&lt;/a&gt;.

Correct Roger.  From Day One (DMSMH) was a lie.  The &quot;research&quot; was a lie.  The &quot;state&quot; was a lie.  The abilities gained were lies.  The whole subject was built on a foundation of lies.]]></description>
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<p>Correct Roger.  From Day One (DMSMH) was a lie.  The &#8220;research&#8221; was a lie.  The &#8220;state&#8221; was a lie.  The abilities gained were lies.  The whole subject was built on a foundation of lies.</p>
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