Rolling my eyes at the “no minors audit adults” on matters of graphic sexual nature statement. I suppose they do have a certain amount of wiggle room on that, in the sense that it depends on what they consider to be graphic. I also note that they are not claiming that minor students never audit adults, just that Serge Gil didn’t. Carefully worded indeed.

I wonder how many documents the Church will have destroyed or squirrelled (ho ho) away, by the time any enforcement agency (police, FBI, IRS etc) decides to get off its bum? Maybe that’s what they have the kids doing these days – shredding paperwork.

It’s what the Fundamentalist Mormon church (FLDS) did when police eventually stormed their secured compound and broke open the temple with a battering ram – tried to shred as much paper as possible. It took a fair while for anything to be done about them as well, even though it was known that minor girls were being forcibly married to adults, children were not in school and were forced into manual labour.

The way the FLDS operated/operates was very like Scientology, by the way. The leader is a narcissistic, abusive nutcase and the Church also controlled the law encorcement in the area, using the local police as their security guards to try to prevent anyone from escaping. I belive the local council was also fully stocked with FLDS members – their version of Clearwater. Took a long time to get the leader in prison and he still runs the cult from his prison cell, having introduced even more disgusting and bizarre rules than the already-crazy system that existed. I mention that because Scientology could still carry on even with DM in jail. Oh, and the leader of the FLDS was rolling in money, because that was a big part of it for him – financial benefit, including money from the taxpayer.

I think part of why not enough is being done is that the Church of Scientology probably has agents in helpful places. That’s certainly what I would do if I was LRH or Miscavige. They’ll have learned from mistakes of the past (in terms of their agent in the IRS being caught) and could be more careful with it. It’s been a long time since Operation Snow White. If they were able to get agents in the police forces, the Government, the FBI and the IRS, they could be quite highly-placed if they got them there in the 80s. You had a former PI for the Church on the show with Leah Remini – I think she said she’d been recruited out of school? Get people like that into good positions and have them fly under the radar. It could be doable.

Aqua—

Just wanted to say how sorry I am that you lost your mom at such a young age. That had to be really tough. I’m very close to my mom as well, and I dread the thought of her passing. I can’t imagine how you must have felt losing your mom as a young girl.

(Btw… I laughed out loud at your reaction to having “the talk”. I felt the same way when my mom and I had that conversation.)

Aquamarine – that is a very good summary!

Well said Peace Maker! And I have also thought that it is telling that there seems to be the same level of “protect Hubbard nastiness” in OSA and Indie – if they are Indies.

Hi Ganapathy Das,
FYI, none of what I wrote was a defense of those who cede control of their lives to others or to a religion, cult or other group.
I was not defending them.
What I was doing was looking from THEIR viewpoint.
They cede control because they BELIEVE it benefits THEM.
I don’t agree at all.
I’m just looking from THEIR viewpoint – not mine.
Thanks for responding and sorry you got upset.
Hope this helps 🙂

That’s like saying if a woman moans or releases fluids (“gets wet”) while being raped she is getting something positive from the experience or is enjoying it. That is SICK THINKING.
Should the drugged & unconscious women sodomized, torn & left bleeding anally by Danny Masterson thank him for giving them physical attention? Even if they all wanted to “give up control”, is his raping of them acceptable? No, it’s deplorable, criminal & in Masterson’s case, the actions of a Serial Rapist, protected & supported by scientology.

Hallelujah! He’s gone. No more M/U nonsense. No more colossal arrogance. No more stupid nicknames for people. No more outrageous justifications of Hubbard’s cruel policies. Above all, no more insane fanaticism. Praise be to baby Xenu.

How FP can compare regular sex education to $ci kids asking vile, perverted, sexual questions to adults is just beyond comprehension.