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		By: Jethro Bodine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71342</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, you forgot a few of their PR lies, I mean PR lines:

&quot;David Miscavige never tortured anyone because he was too busy with his ecclesiastical duties. Besides, when would he have the time to watch fully-clothed staff jump into a cold swimming pool at 3 in the morning. Mr. Miscavige is always at sleep at that time, usually&quot;;

&quot;Those bruises on his face were not from David Miscavige; he did it to himself&quot;;

&quot;Who are you going to trust - David Miscavige or 200 bitter, defrocked apostates?&quot;;

&quot;David Miscavige never hit him, but he hit PLENTY of people while he was at the Int Base. Why weren&#039;t the police called? Well... um... um... no one wanted to file charges?&quot;;

&quot;The ethics matter was handled internally, after it was allowed to continue for three years&quot;;

The church has never blackmailed or extorted anyone, and if you say that again we&#039;ll have your knee caps broken&quot;;

&quot;The hole does not exist&quot;;

&quot;I know every square inch of my husband&#039;s body, even though we haven&#039;t had sex in twenty years&quot;;

&quot;Everyone on the RPF who is scrubbing dumpsters in 110 degree weather with a toothbrush is there voluntarily - they find it therapeutic&quot;;

&quot;Even those staff members under 24 hour &quot;blow&quot; watch could leave voluntarily if they could run fast enough and jump high enough&quot;;

&quot;Scientology is expanding like never before - the number of hired lawyers and private investigators and refund requests and blown staff are highest ever!&quot;;

&quot;Nobody works harder than Captain Miscavige, if you consider calculating how to eliminate and destroy a perceived enemy or threat as actual work.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, you forgot a few of their PR lies, I mean PR lines:</p>
<p>&#8220;David Miscavige never tortured anyone because he was too busy with his ecclesiastical duties. Besides, when would he have the time to watch fully-clothed staff jump into a cold swimming pool at 3 in the morning. Mr. Miscavige is always at sleep at that time, usually&#8221;;</p>
<p>&#8220;Those bruises on his face were not from David Miscavige; he did it to himself&#8221;;</p>
<p>&#8220;Who are you going to trust &#8211; David Miscavige or 200 bitter, defrocked apostates?&#8221;;</p>
<p>&#8220;David Miscavige never hit him, but he hit PLENTY of people while he was at the Int Base. Why weren&#8217;t the police called? Well&#8230; um&#8230; um&#8230; no one wanted to file charges?&#8221;;</p>
<p>&#8220;The ethics matter was handled internally, after it was allowed to continue for three years&#8221;;</p>
<p>The church has never blackmailed or extorted anyone, and if you say that again we&#8217;ll have your knee caps broken&#8221;;</p>
<p>&#8220;The hole does not exist&#8221;;</p>
<p>&#8220;I know every square inch of my husband&#8217;s body, even though we haven&#8217;t had sex in twenty years&#8221;;</p>
<p>&#8220;Everyone on the RPF who is scrubbing dumpsters in 110 degree weather with a toothbrush is there voluntarily &#8211; they find it therapeutic&#8221;;</p>
<p>&#8220;Even those staff members under 24 hour &#8220;blow&#8221; watch could leave voluntarily if they could run fast enough and jump high enough&#8221;;</p>
<p>&#8220;Scientology is expanding like never before &#8211; the number of hired lawyers and private investigators and refund requests and blown staff are highest ever!&#8221;;</p>
<p>&#8220;Nobody works harder than Captain Miscavige, if you consider calculating how to eliminate and destroy a perceived enemy or threat as actual work.&#8221;</p>
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		By: cindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71222</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2014 02:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71213&quot;&gt;Zephyr&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71213">Zephyr</a>.</p>
<p>Yes</p>
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		By: Shelley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71090&quot;&gt;McCarran&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks McCarran - I still intend blowing the lid off what really happened with this story. It&#039;s been touched on lightly in some articles, but the time will come when I reveal all. Still not over it - every time I think of what happened I have to physically quell a murderous rage for revenge. Eye for an eye.... etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71090">McCarran</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks McCarran &#8211; I still intend blowing the lid off what really happened with this story. It&#8217;s been touched on lightly in some articles, but the time will come when I reveal all. Still not over it &#8211; every time I think of what happened I have to physically quell a murderous rage for revenge. Eye for an eye&#8230;. etc.</p>
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		By: Zephyr		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71213</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 23:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71091&quot;&gt;McCarran&lt;/a&gt;.

McC,
Good one re &quot;physical comm lag&quot;!
Cindy,
Yep, let&#039;s make it to actual 500 by the end of this year, that would be awesome! :)
Greta]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71091">McCarran</a>.</p>
<p>McC,<br />
Good one re &#8220;physical comm lag&#8221;!<br />
Cindy,<br />
Yep, let&#8217;s make it to actual 500 by the end of this year, that would be awesome! 🙂<br />
Greta</p>
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		By: katia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 23:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“We threw them out after we discovered they were stealing/violent/wife abusers/animal torturers/devil worshippers/alcoholics/child abusers/bed wetters/meanies…”

Left me in stitches.




&quot;And all of them are going to fall on deaf ears as they systematically destroy ANY possible credibility they ever had with their crazy antics and constant stream of lies that everyone in the world KNOWS are lies.&quot;

How therapeutic to let the freedom of expression run through a necessary &#039;generality&#039;. - remember when we had that restraint? 
No policy ever forbade anyone to say &quot;everyone in the world KNOWS&quot; if it was a fact.
But it so became that no one could speak words like &#039;everyone&#039; or &#039;always&#039;, or anything like that, even if it was an accurate statement. So that crimes done in hordes, crimes done en masse, could never be described as such - or you&#039;d again be discovered to be an SP or one of the things from the list above.

It just so happens that &#039;everyone in the world KNOWS&#039; is accurate!!!!!

Finding this use of the words, reading them, was actually immensely liberating and cathartic.

Damn it, what&#039;s the problem with us saying it as it is?  

Years and years of unsuspected gagging....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We threw them out after we discovered they were stealing/violent/wife abusers/animal torturers/devil worshippers/alcoholics/child abusers/bed wetters/meanies…”</p>
<p>Left me in stitches.</p>
<p>&#8220;And all of them are going to fall on deaf ears as they systematically destroy ANY possible credibility they ever had with their crazy antics and constant stream of lies that everyone in the world KNOWS are lies.&#8221;</p>
<p>How therapeutic to let the freedom of expression run through a necessary &#8216;generality&#8217;. &#8211; remember when we had that restraint?<br />
No policy ever forbade anyone to say &#8220;everyone in the world KNOWS&#8221; if it was a fact.<br />
But it so became that no one could speak words like &#8216;everyone&#8217; or &#8216;always&#8217;, or anything like that, even if it was an accurate statement. So that crimes done in hordes, crimes done en masse, could never be described as such &#8211; or you&#8217;d again be discovered to be an SP or one of the things from the list above.</p>
<p>It just so happens that &#8216;everyone in the world KNOWS&#8217; is accurate!!!!!</p>
<p>Finding this use of the words, reading them, was actually immensely liberating and cathartic.</p>
<p>Damn it, what&#8217;s the problem with us saying it as it is?  </p>
<p>Years and years of unsuspected gagging&#8230;.</p>
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		By: cindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71205</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71199&quot;&gt;indie8million&lt;/a&gt;.

I talked to some KA drinking staff members and brought up Heber as well as the entire Int Exec Strata being disappeared probably to the Hole.  They went back to their org, got the &quot;real story&quot; and came to tell it to me.  They said that &quot;Heber is alive and well and is at Int being semi-retired and spends his time writing and doing his post and he is enjoying life and doing fine.&quot;  OMG.  They believed these lies.  So if you did a fly by sign asking &quot;Where&#039;s Heber?&quot; It won&#039;t have impact.  They&#039;ll just regurgitate what they&#039;ve been told which is what I said here.  How about a fly by sign that says instead, &quot;Free Heber!&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71199">indie8million</a>.</p>
<p>I talked to some KA drinking staff members and brought up Heber as well as the entire Int Exec Strata being disappeared probably to the Hole.  They went back to their org, got the &#8220;real story&#8221; and came to tell it to me.  They said that &#8220;Heber is alive and well and is at Int being semi-retired and spends his time writing and doing his post and he is enjoying life and doing fine.&#8221;  OMG.  They believed these lies.  So if you did a fly by sign asking &#8220;Where&#8217;s Heber?&#8221; It won&#8217;t have impact.  They&#8217;ll just regurgitate what they&#8217;ve been told which is what I said here.  How about a fly by sign that says instead, &#8220;Free Heber!&#8221;?</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 20:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-70994&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Please make it a &quot;Where&#039;s Heber?&quot; banner on this run! Everybody in the world knows Heber - and you, Mike.

Bwahahahahaha!!! Why don&#039;t you make it say, &quot;Where&#039;s Mike Rinder?&quot; Mike? Then you can drop flyers with your URL with the top 5 article titles - &quot;Letter from Debbie Cook&quot;, &quot;Leah Remini leaves Scientology&quot;, &quot;How many LRH trained Class XIIs have been declared? All of them!&quot; hahaha]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-70994">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Please make it a &#8220;Where&#8217;s Heber?&#8221; banner on this run! Everybody in the world knows Heber &#8211; and you, Mike.</p>
<p>Bwahahahahaha!!! Why don&#8217;t you make it say, &#8220;Where&#8217;s Mike Rinder?&#8221; Mike? Then you can drop flyers with your URL with the top 5 article titles &#8211; &#8220;Letter from Debbie Cook&#8221;, &#8220;Leah Remini leaves Scientology&#8221;, &#8220;How many LRH trained Class XIIs have been declared? All of them!&#8221; hahaha</p>
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		By: JFDee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The comment section of the &quot;Time Out&quot; entry for the LRH ehibition could do with some critical input.

Two Scions have already left their spin. Excerpt from &quot;Sarah&#039;s&quot; post:

&quot;L. Ron Hubbard&#039;s had the most adventurous life I think I have ever seen!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment section of the &#8220;Time Out&#8221; entry for the LRH ehibition could do with some critical input.</p>
<p>Two Scions have already left their spin. Excerpt from &#8220;Sarah&#8217;s&#8221; post:</p>
<p>&#8220;L. Ron Hubbard&#8217;s had the most adventurous life I think I have ever seen!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Cooper J Kessel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71107&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I wonder which facial expression will appear on Krusty, John and Toms lips? I say John will be the next to depart the Cult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71107">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I wonder which facial expression will appear on Krusty, John and Toms lips? I say John will be the next to depart the Cult.</p>
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		By: BFM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 11:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71120&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Hallie Jane, Brian chose a very appropriate term --- karmic tsunami, love it :) ! 

Margaritas are mixed, ice cubes crushed. Its gonna be one helluva party at OSD&#039;s beach.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-pr-trainwreck/#comment-71120">Hallie Jane</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Hallie Jane, Brian chose a very appropriate term &#8212; karmic tsunami, love it 🙂 ! </p>
<p>Margaritas are mixed, ice cubes crushed. Its gonna be one helluva party at OSD&#8217;s beach.</p>
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