Gene Trujillo – I think myself and most people entering scientology had little or no background in science, religion or philosophy. I think you were the exception to the rule. Hubbard seemed like a smart guy and I went along with his claim that he had applied Western science to Eastern philosophy. In my time the upper levels were hidden and the lower levels were straightforward with little mysticism.

Real science is not about certainty whatsoever but is founded upon uncertainty and the willingness to always re-examine even one’s most cherished beliefs for error or better clarification. Hubbard had a layman’s misunderstanding.

I thought that since no one else seemed to be snickering when they read that, that I would be the one to bring the good news of peer review and independent research to CofS. Obviously, peer review and independent study are not big priorities within CofS to this day.

Elsewhere Hubbard also proclaimed that he and the Buddha were better scientists than any scientist ever or something like that. OMG what an arrogant prick. He claimed in KSW that no one else had come up with anything basic, but in reality he was ignorant of his own ignorance. Like he said, you can’t learn something if you think you know it all already and he was his own prime example.

Pretty much the reason I got involved was I have had a life long interest in the meeting of Western and Eastern thought. I don’t recall the Buddha talking about modularity, establishing one to many relationships, parallel vs sequential or other modern engineering concepts so I initially thought that Scientology was Hubbard’s attempts to apply such concepts to Eastern thought. I thought maybe he had come up with “fast Buddhism” as a result. Boy was I disappointed.

Foolproof,

toilet paper has more knowledge of the human mind than a page of dianetics. Dr. Seuss was more profound than Hubbard.

Kat

Interesting this is your only comment on this piece? Nothing about the substance or the statements from Hubbard?

No, the article is simply defining religion to suit its cloth and its agenda and ignoring Scientology’s spiritual aspects. It is juxtaposing religion with playing with rosary beads and saying 3 hail Mary’s. It is all adequately defined as below from the Technical Dictionary. Mike has taken the first 4 words of definition 1 and defined that as “religion”:

RELIGION, 1. the ritual of worship or regard about spiritual
matters. (4 LACC-18,5510C13) 2. a study of wisdom. (HCO PL 6
Mar 69) 3. the word religion itself can embrace sacred lore,
wisdom, knowingness of gods and’ souls and spirits, and could be
called, with very broad use of the word, a philosophy. We could
say there is religious philosophy and there is religious practice.
(PXL, p. 13)

OMG! #Terrific insighting! What sagacity! What insights! What revelations! Kat has left me dumbfounded by her opinions! I am sure the whole world will make pause, sit back and gasp at what she “believes” and “thinks”. OMG! Hash Tag this and that! In fact I have just swooned at her refutation of all the data on the mind and life contained in the Technical Volumes! How avant garde of Kat is this? How cutting edge are her thoughts eh? And the cheek as well – she thoroughly denies that just 1 page of Dianetics contains more knowledge about the human mind than all of her years of psychology training! OMG! And she ignores and denies that a simple flying of rudiments does more in a few minutes than 10 years of psychotherapy! #How brave!

Which reminds me……..the church needs a piccolo player for this Sunday’s service……..hehe

Thanks, Balletlady. But, seriously, WTF is a URL??? That’s what has been blocking me! Thanks for helping me out of the darkness!

I still have my Scientology “Minister of the Church” certificate which miraculously survived in the bottom of a trunk so I’m a “real” minister and at your service.

Yours truly,
Reverend Richard

In the 1970’s you needed to read a book about comparative religions and read over some of the scn “services” and then go attest and get your cert. Maybe they’ve upgraded things since then.