I have asked this before What funds are being asked for Mario Fenniger and why ? He waswhen I knew him a lovely amn and Yes I knew himwhen he was in Paris.

Scientology is, after all, a game where everyone wins!

I had read that Victoria Beckham responded to this speculation with “We are Catholics”.

It was obvious that there was a plan to bring the Beckhams into the CoS. I saw a photograph of DM sitting behind Victoria at a game in LA with TC and Katie Holmes with all their kids. Victoria had her back to him, ignoring him (I hope). I thought it interesting that DM would be hanging around the Beckham family and never thought it was just because he thought their kids were cute.

Potpie – hopefully Linda won’t live to be 92 and need any help from others.

Chastising an elderly person like that is despicable.

Interesting that the homophobia didn’t openly manifest itself until the 1980’s. If that is indeed true, then couldn’t it be directly linked to David Miscavige’s homophobia? I say that because its been said that he likes to threaten people with expulsion and one of the activities he frequently tells them is that they will be sucking c—k on Hollywood Blvd.

Artoo45 – I’m not condescending to those who are trying to help bring the Co$$$$$ down. Some Scns think it’s worth saving, I think the name is salvageable, but the church structure itself in its present legal form isn’t. No religion can be a monopoly, and this one is proven to be susceptible to high-jacking or take-over. I very much appreciate the humanitarian and charitable work many never-ins have contributed – I really do. But I don’t like someone telling me what I have or have not seen and experienced for myself – is that unreasonable of me, somehow?

You should be a skeptic. I encourage that, so did Hubbard. LOOK, and evaluate, don’t just take someone’s freaking word for it (either way). Too many “ins” have done that, and imo, that’s one of the major things that went wrong. Demand some proof, question the source, but don’t deny it when you have it.

That said, what is your definition of peer review (even though it isn’t a good basis for an evaluation)?

Here’s the wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_review

“Peer review is the evaluation of work by one or more people of similar competence to the producers of the work (peers). It constitutes a form of self-regulation by qualified members of a profession within the relevant field. Peer review methods are employed to maintain standards of quality, improve performance, and provide credibility. In academia peer review is often used to determine an academic paper’s suitability for publication.”

If the Indies and the other groups in the Freezone who have long ago left the church are not peer review, then what is? They’re slamming the Co$$$$$$ every day, calling the off-policy, and the out-tech.

Carcha, I know, I’m just one of those “stupid” critics, but it might be more effective if you try being less condescending to those trying to help bring Miscavige down. If you want to run with Hubbard’s tech, that’s fine. Indies and never-ins don’t have to agree on the validity of the tech, just the inhumanity of the cult built on it. And as for never admitting that we’re wrong, I am a skeptic, and as such always looking out for confirmation bias on my part. If you can show me peer-reviewed information proving the efficacy of Dianetics, I’ll be happy to read it.