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		By: St Louis UTR ex staffer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[St Louis UTR ex staffer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2022 15:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-253458&quot;&gt;Mary N&lt;/a&gt;.

Cringe.
 Saint Louis Scientologist Jill Baell-Casto was the one most likely handing out those stupid pamphlets.  She drinks the koolaid heavily and is enrolling her grandkids into the cult after getting her kids into it - all but 1
It is a very sad and pathetic life she has lived supporting this evil cult that has robbed her of any normal and fulfilling life.  
She thinks she pulls all bad things that happen to her...in 
and anything good that happens to her - is due to Scientology
Nothing good happens to her
She  is basically a nice person and I hope she gets out of the cult to know the truth even though it may kill her - she deserves to know she was in a cult that scammed her out of her entire adult life]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-253458">Mary N</a>.</p>
<p>Cringe.<br />
 Saint Louis Scientologist Jill Baell-Casto was the one most likely handing out those stupid pamphlets.  She drinks the koolaid heavily and is enrolling her grandkids into the cult after getting her kids into it &#8211; all but 1<br />
It is a very sad and pathetic life she has lived supporting this evil cult that has robbed her of any normal and fulfilling life.<br />
She thinks she pulls all bad things that happen to her&#8230;in<br />
and anything good that happens to her &#8211; is due to Scientology<br />
Nothing good happens to her<br />
She  is basically a nice person and I hope she gets out of the cult to know the truth even though it may kill her &#8211; she deserves to know she was in a cult that scammed her out of her entire adult life</p>
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		By: Francis Khoury		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Khoury]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2019 11:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-249050&quot;&gt;Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

Glad you&#039;re out!!]]></description>
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<p>Glad you&#8217;re out!!</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2019 05:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As an update, the old St. Louis German House property at 2345 Lafayette Avenue, that the org bought to renovate and then left derelict, appears to still be on the market, though they were supposed to have been taking no-minimum-price bids on it:

https://www2.colliers.com/en/Properties/redevelopment-opportunity-in-historic-lafayette-square/USA-2345-lafayette-avenye-st-louis-mo-63104/USA1053322

Like a similar white elephant property that the Boston org bought long ago and has been trying to unload more recently, any deal may be contingent on a the buyer being able to come up with a redevelopment plan and get city approval, which can drag out for years.

The org has switched its &quot;ideal&quot; org plan to renovating and adding a large addition to their existing building, instead.  However, in a recent post to another of the old topics about St. Louis, someone reports that they&#039;re not even using the top floor of that building:

http://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-state-of-scientology-st-louis-style/#comment-267593 

That&#039;s got to make it an extra hard sell to the locals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an update, the old St. Louis German House property at 2345 Lafayette Avenue, that the org bought to renovate and then left derelict, appears to still be on the market, though they were supposed to have been taking no-minimum-price bids on it:</p>
<p><a href="https://www2.colliers.com/en/Properties/redevelopment-opportunity-in-historic-lafayette-square/USA-2345-lafayette-avenye-st-louis-mo-63104/USA1053322" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www2.colliers.com/en/Properties/redevelopment-opportunity-in-historic-lafayette-square/USA-2345-lafayette-avenye-st-louis-mo-63104/USA1053322</a></p>
<p>Like a similar white elephant property that the Boston org bought long ago and has been trying to unload more recently, any deal may be contingent on a the buyer being able to come up with a redevelopment plan and get city approval, which can drag out for years.</p>
<p>The org has switched its &#8220;ideal&#8221; org plan to renovating and adding a large addition to their existing building, instead.  However, in a recent post to another of the old topics about St. Louis, someone reports that they&#8217;re not even using the top floor of that building:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-state-of-scientology-st-louis-style/#comment-267593" rel="ugc">http://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-state-of-scientology-st-louis-style/#comment-267593</a> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s got to make it an extra hard sell to the locals.</p>
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		By: Mary N		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary N]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was born and raised in St. Louis. In 1975, when I was 14, my older brother and I were exiting a baseball game at Busch stadium. I group of young people were handing out Scientology leaflets. When I was handed one, I quickly handed it back and proclaimed, &quot;L. Ron Hubbard really sucks!&quot; (My brother laughed). My point being, even in 1975, we all knew Scientology was a cult. St. Louis was hardly a Scientology stronghold, but we knew it was a scam. I am disheartened they now have a huge building there. I hope it remains empty!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born and raised in St. Louis. In 1975, when I was 14, my older brother and I were exiting a baseball game at Busch stadium. I group of young people were handing out Scientology leaflets. When I was handed one, I quickly handed it back and proclaimed, &#8220;L. Ron Hubbard really sucks!&#8221; (My brother laughed). My point being, even in 1975, we all knew Scientology was a cult. St. Louis was hardly a Scientology stronghold, but we knew it was a scam. I am disheartened they now have a huge building there. I hope it remains empty!</p>
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		By: peterblood71		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peterblood71]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-248993&quot;&gt;Mary Kahn&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t remember seeing it.  A dawn to dusk time lapse would be &quot;ideal.&quot;]]></description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t remember seeing it.  A dawn to dusk time lapse would be &#8220;ideal.&#8221;</p>
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		By: peterblood71		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peterblood71]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-248872&quot;&gt;Jere Lull (38 years recovering&lt;/a&gt;.

That would be the point of doing it of course.  To show the embarrassing  inactivity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-248872">Jere Lull (38 years recovering</a>.</p>
<p>That would be the point of doing it of course.  To show the embarrassing  inactivity.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (38 years recovering		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull (38 years recovering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2019 06:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-249024&quot;&gt;Miss Q&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;burning fire of imminent kerSPLAT! (It&#039;s a train coming at them called &quot;Aftermath&quot;.

I agree, that metaphor was WAY too tortured and deserved to be put out of its misery.]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;burning fire of imminent kerSPLAT! (It&#8217;s a train coming at them called &#8220;Aftermath&#8221;.</p>
<p>I agree, that metaphor was WAY too tortured and deserved to be put out of its misery.</p>
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		By: ctempsterc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ctempsterc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2019 11:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-248992&quot;&gt;Mary Kahn&lt;/a&gt;.

Hy Levy goes over how the SO registrars make money in his segment of The Truth R/D by St Pete Times.  Registrars made more money than most at the org and if their stats were up made monetary bonuses and stuff, which the other staff didn&#039;t.   Hy made enough money to buy his wife nice jewelry and other things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-248992">Mary Kahn</a>.</p>
<p>Hy Levy goes over how the SO registrars make money in his segment of The Truth R/D by St Pete Times.  Registrars made more money than most at the org and if their stats were up made monetary bonuses and stuff, which the other staff didn&#8217;t.   Hy made enough money to buy his wife nice jewelry and other things.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2019 06:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-249246&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

It was both a dawn, and a boom-bust phenomenon.

The jump in use of the term &quot;astral projection&quot; leveled off and held steady for decades, presumably because of continued interest in what could generally be termed the &quot;new age.&quot;

However, prevalence of the term &quot;scientology&quot; spiked from 1967 to 1974, but then took a precipitous drop until about 1982, when it leveled off at about about a third of its peak - and only a bit more than double what it had been in the 1950s - and then continued on more or less at the reduced level through the end of the century.  That basically follows the trajectory of the rise and fall of the baby boom youth movement, and I think illustrates the backdrop against which the orgs and missions were struggling over a shrinking pie, heading for an inevitable reckoning with reality - and we know how that turned out.  

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=scientology&#038;year_start=1950&#038;year_end=2018&#038;corpus=15&#038;smoothing=3&#038;share=&#038;direct_url=t1%3B%2Cscientology%3B%2Cc0]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-249246">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>It was both a dawn, and a boom-bust phenomenon.</p>
<p>The jump in use of the term &#8220;astral projection&#8221; leveled off and held steady for decades, presumably because of continued interest in what could generally be termed the &#8220;new age.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, prevalence of the term &#8220;scientology&#8221; spiked from 1967 to 1974, but then took a precipitous drop until about 1982, when it leveled off at about about a third of its peak &#8211; and only a bit more than double what it had been in the 1950s &#8211; and then continued on more or less at the reduced level through the end of the century.  That basically follows the trajectory of the rise and fall of the baby boom youth movement, and I think illustrates the backdrop against which the orgs and missions were struggling over a shrinking pie, heading for an inevitable reckoning with reality &#8211; and we know how that turned out.  </p>
<p><a href="https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=scientology&#038;year_start=1950&#038;year_end=2018&#038;corpus=15&#038;smoothing=3&#038;share=&#038;direct_url=t1%3B%2Cscientology%3B%2Cc0" rel="nofollow ugc">https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=scientology&#038;year_start=1950&#038;year_end=2018&#038;corpus=15&#038;smoothing=3&#038;share=&#038;direct_url=t1%3B%2Cscientology%3B%2Cc0</a></p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2019 03:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-249174&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;. . . with a typical big jump in the late 1960s and into the mid 1970s.&quot;

Yep. It was the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius with many people joining in from the anti-war, anti-establishment and psychedelic &quot;revolutions&quot;. Elron wasn&#039;t yet maintaining dictatorial control over all of the orgs and missions even with all of his internal control mechanisms already built into the subject.

I think astral planing was accomplished by maintaining a silver string attached to your body while tooling around the cosmos. Mr. Hubbard tool it a step further and said that no silver string was necessary. That sounds like a good way to get &quot;Lost in Space&quot;. (joke)

There was no shortage of &quot;possibilities&quot; presented.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/st-louis-blues-an-epic-ideal-org-scam/#comment-249174">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;. . . with a typical big jump in the late 1960s and into the mid 1970s.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep. It was the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius with many people joining in from the anti-war, anti-establishment and psychedelic &#8220;revolutions&#8221;. Elron wasn&#8217;t yet maintaining dictatorial control over all of the orgs and missions even with all of his internal control mechanisms already built into the subject.</p>
<p>I think astral planing was accomplished by maintaining a silver string attached to your body while tooling around the cosmos. Mr. Hubbard tool it a step further and said that no silver string was necessary. That sounds like a good way to get &#8220;Lost in Space&#8221;. (joke)</p>
<p>There was no shortage of &#8220;possibilities&#8221; presented.</p>
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