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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300379</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2019 01:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300259&quot;&gt;Francis Khoury&lt;/a&gt;.

Funny you say that, Francis.  I got out because I saw that what was being done was NEVER going to work, that it COULDN&#039;T work.  What was being done was doing them (and us and me) IN.  I tried over and over to tell them that.  References, written LRH policy both tech, ethics and admin being outright FLOUTED.  And I was nice about it.  Patient, tactful.  I made sure they couldn&#039;t ever say that I was &quot;misemotional&quot; or &quot;low-toned&quot;.  Nothing got thru.  In the beginning I was astounded.  How could they not see this, see it immediately?  After a while I realized something was very wrong and I didn&#039;t know what it was but had no doubt that something, somewhere, somehow was VERY wrong. So I withdrew my support.  Went UTR and withdrew, quietly.  This took 2 years.  But I left because I knew they were doing themselves in and I couldn&#039;t let myself be part of it.  I thank God there was no one I actually loved in the cult.  No husband, lover, child, parent or sibling.  Because very well do I know what its like to watch someone you love do themselves in and refuse help. You have to stand by.  You can do nothing.   There&#039;s no other pain like this kind of pain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300259">Francis Khoury</a>.</p>
<p>Funny you say that, Francis.  I got out because I saw that what was being done was NEVER going to work, that it COULDN&#8217;T work.  What was being done was doing them (and us and me) IN.  I tried over and over to tell them that.  References, written LRH policy both tech, ethics and admin being outright FLOUTED.  And I was nice about it.  Patient, tactful.  I made sure they couldn&#8217;t ever say that I was &#8220;misemotional&#8221; or &#8220;low-toned&#8221;.  Nothing got thru.  In the beginning I was astounded.  How could they not see this, see it immediately?  After a while I realized something was very wrong and I didn&#8217;t know what it was but had no doubt that something, somewhere, somehow was VERY wrong. So I withdrew my support.  Went UTR and withdrew, quietly.  This took 2 years.  But I left because I knew they were doing themselves in and I couldn&#8217;t let myself be part of it.  I thank God there was no one I actually loved in the cult.  No husband, lover, child, parent or sibling.  Because very well do I know what its like to watch someone you love do themselves in and refuse help. You have to stand by.  You can do nothing.   There&#8217;s no other pain like this kind of pain.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300375</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2019 00:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300259&quot;&gt;Francis Khoury&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Jutta and Francis K.  True, I did care.  I did think I was doing the right things.  And in my own defense, when I spotted the outpoints I didn&#039;t ignore them.  I didn&#039;t pretend they weren&#039;t there.  I didn&#039;t let them go.  I pulled threads because I believed the organization to be fundamentally HONEST.  At least I can say that.  Of course, my unwillingness to pretend was what got me booted out - oh, I beg your pardon - &quot;silently declared&quot;.  Again, thank you.  Courtesy of Briget I&#039;m taking Maya Angelou&#039;s advice :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300259">Francis Khoury</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Jutta and Francis K.  True, I did care.  I did think I was doing the right things.  And in my own defense, when I spotted the outpoints I didn&#8217;t ignore them.  I didn&#8217;t pretend they weren&#8217;t there.  I didn&#8217;t let them go.  I pulled threads because I believed the organization to be fundamentally HONEST.  At least I can say that.  Of course, my unwillingness to pretend was what got me booted out &#8211; oh, I beg your pardon &#8211; &#8220;silently declared&#8221;.  Again, thank you.  Courtesy of Briget I&#8217;m taking Maya Angelou&#8217;s advice 🙂</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2019 00:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300176&quot;&gt;Briget&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Briget!  Maya Angelou nailed it.  Its all we can do; its all anyone can do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300176">Briget</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Briget!  Maya Angelou nailed it.  Its all we can do; its all anyone can do.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300327</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 20:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300120&quot;&gt;MarcAnon&lt;/a&gt;.

“How can these people think they’re fooling anyone? The entire world is laughing at them. They must know this.”


They don&#039;t CARE.  If they were at all aware, they&#039;d see they aren&#039;t getting the advertised superpowers, that the &quot;insanely great&quot; new initiatives were just *insane*, and other truths.  As True Believers®, they MUST ignore anything but the party line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300120">MarcAnon</a>.</p>
<p>“How can these people think they’re fooling anyone? The entire world is laughing at them. They must know this.”</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t CARE.  If they were at all aware, they&#8217;d see they aren&#8217;t getting the advertised superpowers, that the &#8220;insanely great&#8221; new initiatives were just *insane*, and other truths.  As True Believers®, they MUST ignore anything but the party line.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300326</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 20:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300128&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Having double standards DOUBLES their standards, of course.
AND makes them more flexible, which they NEED, if they are to last much longer. The tactics they use were outdated 60 or more years ago, the &quot;technology&quot; NEVER worked as advertised.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300128">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Having double standards DOUBLES their standards, of course.<br />
AND makes them more flexible, which they NEED, if they are to last much longer. The tactics they use were outdated 60 or more years ago, the &#8220;technology&#8221; NEVER worked as advertised.</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300307</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 18:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No one wants to watch that drivel. It’s embarrassing. Even most $cientologists don’t wanna watch it. Ouch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one wants to watch that drivel. It’s embarrassing. Even most $cientologists don’t wanna watch it. Ouch.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300302</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 17:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300222&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

You hit the nail on the head, Skyler!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300222">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>You hit the nail on the head, Skyler!!!</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyx75to03		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300268</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 13:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300156&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;.... why put out something so easily thrown in your face?...&quot;

STAND is following Hubbard&#039;s policy telling OSA what to do.   They have this as their main daily action to do and continue to creatively do.

Hubbard&#039;s nasty policy executing team, OSA, get RPFed when they don&#039;t somehow make this Hubbard nasty policy succeed even.

Quite a lot of pressure, Ed&#039;s done the RPF at least once.

Scientology&#039;s and OSA&#039;s nastiness is L. Ron Hubbard&#039;s fault, he set up the Scientology organizations to dish this out.  

A lot of people, OSA namely, following dead Hubbard&#039;s rules, to the letter.

Wish they&#039;d read the final pages of &quot;Going Clear....&quot; by Lawrence Wright and see Hubbard briefly admitted he&#039;d failed.

Have Scientology Media Productions do a broadcast of the news that Hubbard failed, and the movement is ceasing operation, doing massive widespread refunding of all the followers&#039; donations.

Put their brain cells to use returning people&#039;s donations and close up shop, they ought to.

That&#039;s be a rightful history ending to Scientology and Hubbard&#039;s nasty legacy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300156">otherles</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;. why put out something so easily thrown in your face?&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>STAND is following Hubbard&#8217;s policy telling OSA what to do.   They have this as their main daily action to do and continue to creatively do.</p>
<p>Hubbard&#8217;s nasty policy executing team, OSA, get RPFed when they don&#8217;t somehow make this Hubbard nasty policy succeed even.</p>
<p>Quite a lot of pressure, Ed&#8217;s done the RPF at least once.</p>
<p>Scientology&#8217;s and OSA&#8217;s nastiness is L. Ron Hubbard&#8217;s fault, he set up the Scientology organizations to dish this out.  </p>
<p>A lot of people, OSA namely, following dead Hubbard&#8217;s rules, to the letter.</p>
<p>Wish they&#8217;d read the final pages of &#8220;Going Clear&#8230;.&#8221; by Lawrence Wright and see Hubbard briefly admitted he&#8217;d failed.</p>
<p>Have Scientology Media Productions do a broadcast of the news that Hubbard failed, and the movement is ceasing operation, doing massive widespread refunding of all the followers&#8217; donations.</p>
<p>Put their brain cells to use returning people&#8217;s donations and close up shop, they ought to.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s be a rightful history ending to Scientology and Hubbard&#8217;s nasty legacy.</p>
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		By: Francis Khoury		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300262</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 11:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom cruise kissing Weinsteinis the only reply necessary to counter the entire STAAD thing.  Fish in a barrel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom cruise kissing Weinsteinis the only reply necessary to counter the entire STAAD thing.  Fish in a barrel.</p>
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		By: Francis Khoury		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300259</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Khoury]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 11:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300152&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aquamarine, I suspect that you were so die-hard because you genuinely  &quot;gave a crap&quot;, and that same genuine quality ultimately led you out.  I have hope for other die-hards when I read that people like yourself have had the courage to admit how duped they once were.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stand-double-standards/#comment-300152">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aquamarine, I suspect that you were so die-hard because you genuinely  &#8220;gave a crap&#8221;, and that same genuine quality ultimately led you out.  I have hope for other die-hards when I read that people like yourself have had the courage to admit how duped they once were.</p>
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