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		By: omegapaladin		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154633</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Always thought it was funny - they say they  want to clear the planet, but they charge fees larger than most people make in a year worldwide.  If Scn was serious about clearing the planet, there would be SO member going around the world with bargain-basement mass-produced e-meters.  If you look at most missionary faiths, they are getting people out in the world to spread their beliefs.  I honestly wonder what they tell people who suggest traditional mission activities.

I don&#039;t judge people who believe that LRH was on to something or auditing helps them.  I don&#039;t believe it works myself, but it&#039;s no worse that chanting a mantra, pondering a koan, studying Torah, singing hymns, etc.  The management of the church, however, is tyrannical and greedy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always thought it was funny &#8211; they say they  want to clear the planet, but they charge fees larger than most people make in a year worldwide.  If Scn was serious about clearing the planet, there would be SO member going around the world with bargain-basement mass-produced e-meters.  If you look at most missionary faiths, they are getting people out in the world to spread their beliefs.  I honestly wonder what they tell people who suggest traditional mission activities.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t judge people who believe that LRH was on to something or auditing helps them.  I don&#8217;t believe it works myself, but it&#8217;s no worse that chanting a mantra, pondering a koan, studying Torah, singing hymns, etc.  The management of the church, however, is tyrannical and greedy.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154166</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 15:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-153954&quot;&gt;theosismanides&lt;/a&gt;.

theosismanides , I HAVE tried the tech.  I found NOTHING that El Con wrote to be workable, a la processing.  Nothing worked as advertised.  ZERO consistent results.

If you want to bring ACTUAL clinical evidence.  Bring it.  It you have no such evidence, why harp on people who speak the truth?  Those who CLAIM something works bear 100% of the burden of actual proof.  Speaking out against those who falsify a claim is nuts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-153954">theosismanides</a>.</p>
<p>theosismanides , I HAVE tried the tech.  I found NOTHING that El Con wrote to be workable, a la processing.  Nothing worked as advertised.  ZERO consistent results.</p>
<p>If you want to bring ACTUAL clinical evidence.  Bring it.  It you have no such evidence, why harp on people who speak the truth?  Those who CLAIM something works bear 100% of the burden of actual proof.  Speaking out against those who falsify a claim is nuts.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154132</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-153954&quot;&gt;theosismanides&lt;/a&gt;.

I had good results from touch assists also. The good parts of Scientology are not in question in my view.

It&#039;s the parts that cause you to hate people who disagree with Ron&#039;s &quot;only way&quot; &quot;last chance&quot; mentality.

It&#039;s the parts that cause a mind to disassociate from reality; ala BTs are the cause I of my thoughts, feelings and body feelings.

It&#039;s Ron claiming that scientific double blinded research led him to his absolutist absurdity that all critics have criminal backgrounds.

It&#039;s the parts where Ron the loon declares that family bonding, love and attachment comes from a psychotic genetic ghost and that families are not good groups for thetans.

For every good result from Ron&#039;s therapy there is a horror story.

These sites Theo are healing sites for people who have been abused by hateful and arrogant doctrines.

Sure Scientology can bring a mind to cognition and cause some mind over matter phenomenon. Actually, that&#039;s what we can do because that is our native state. 

If Ron taught you to help people that&#039;s fine. All power to you. To see the true wholistic picture I would suggest not to deny the obvious: some things in Scientology are dangerous mind fucks: period!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-153954">theosismanides</a>.</p>
<p>I had good results from touch assists also. The good parts of Scientology are not in question in my view.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the parts that cause you to hate people who disagree with Ron&#8217;s &#8220;only way&#8221; &#8220;last chance&#8221; mentality.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the parts that cause a mind to disassociate from reality; ala BTs are the cause I of my thoughts, feelings and body feelings.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Ron claiming that scientific double blinded research led him to his absolutist absurdity that all critics have criminal backgrounds.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the parts where Ron the loon declares that family bonding, love and attachment comes from a psychotic genetic ghost and that families are not good groups for thetans.</p>
<p>For every good result from Ron&#8217;s therapy there is a horror story.</p>
<p>These sites Theo are healing sites for people who have been abused by hateful and arrogant doctrines.</p>
<p>Sure Scientology can bring a mind to cognition and cause some mind over matter phenomenon. Actually, that&#8217;s what we can do because that is our native state. </p>
<p>If Ron taught you to help people that&#8217;s fine. All power to you. To see the true wholistic picture I would suggest not to deny the obvious: some things in Scientology are dangerous mind fucks: period!</p>
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		By: Mephisto		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154109</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 04:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154102&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154102">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>?</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154102</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 03:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154022&quot;&gt;Mephisto&lt;/a&gt;.

Ha ha!

Yeah..... In know what I&#039;ll do! 

Since I have altitude over these people, and there is a spiritual renaissance of spiritual thought in America and Europe.........

I&#039;ll write Hymn of Asia and convince these ripe hippies that I am Matreya. 

Then...... when anyone tries to pull back the curtain (ooo, this is my best plan yet!!!) I&#039;ll create my own black ops and Intel army to destroy any scrutiny.

If I keep up the attacks, that assures me some time to enjoy my power.........

Destroy them utterly if you can. Bow wow go the willing hounds.

Ah..... Altitude Instruction. It so works for me!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154022">Mephisto</a>.</p>
<p>Ha ha!</p>
<p>Yeah&#8230;.. In know what I&#8217;ll do! </p>
<p>Since I have altitude over these people, and there is a spiritual renaissance of spiritual thought in America and Europe&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll write Hymn of Asia and convince these ripe hippies that I am Matreya. </p>
<p>Then&#8230;&#8230; when anyone tries to pull back the curtain (ooo, this is my best plan yet!!!) I&#8217;ll create my own black ops and Intel army to destroy any scrutiny.</p>
<p>If I keep up the attacks, that assures me some time to enjoy my power&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Destroy them utterly if you can. Bow wow go the willing hounds.</p>
<p>Ah&#8230;.. Altitude Instruction. It so works for me!</p>
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		By: T-Marie		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154045</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T-Marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 20:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154022&quot;&gt;Mephisto&lt;/a&gt;.

;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154022">Mephisto</a>.</p>
<p>😉</p>
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		By: Mephisto		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154032</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 19:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I drove to the SuMP 
As I gave at the pump
Another money dump 
For a handful of chumps]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I drove to the SuMP<br />
As I gave at the pump<br />
Another money dump<br />
For a handful of chumps</p>
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		By: Mephisto		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-154022</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mephisto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-153998&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

The first principle of my own philosophy is that wisdom is meant for anyone who wishes to pay for it.

The second principle of my own philosophy is that it must be capable of being sold. 

The third principle is that any philosophic knowledge is only valuable if it can be monetized or make a sizeable profit. 

These three principles are so strange to the field of philosophy that I have given my philosophy a name: Sell-theology. This means only “knowing how to reg.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-153998">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>The first principle of my own philosophy is that wisdom is meant for anyone who wishes to pay for it.</p>
<p>The second principle of my own philosophy is that it must be capable of being sold. </p>
<p>The third principle is that any philosophic knowledge is only valuable if it can be monetized or make a sizeable profit. </p>
<p>These three principles are so strange to the field of philosophy that I have given my philosophy a name: Sell-theology. This means only “knowing how to reg.”</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-153943&quot;&gt;T-Marie&lt;/a&gt;.

Good points T-Marie!

Independent observation cannot occur when the doctrine of absolute correctness is agreed.

When anyone is the &quot;only hope&quot; &quot;the last chance&quot; &quot;the only workable&quot; &quot;the best science of mind&quot; is agreed upon, independent thought that expresses a different point of view will always be the enemy.

If Scientology is the &quot;only way&quot; to truth and freedom, then all other attempts at truth will ALWAYS be an opposition to the &quot;real road to truth.&quot;

Free thinking will always be the enemy.

Ron solidified this tyranny of thought by redefining the word &quot;reasonable&quot; and &quot;open minded.&quot;

Only way philosophies can be the source of great evil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-153943">T-Marie</a>.</p>
<p>Good points T-Marie!</p>
<p>Independent observation cannot occur when the doctrine of absolute correctness is agreed.</p>
<p>When anyone is the &#8220;only hope&#8221; &#8220;the last chance&#8221; &#8220;the only workable&#8221; &#8220;the best science of mind&#8221; is agreed upon, independent thought that expresses a different point of view will always be the enemy.</p>
<p>If Scientology is the &#8220;only way&#8221; to truth and freedom, then all other attempts at truth will ALWAYS be an opposition to the &#8220;real road to truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Free thinking will always be the enemy.</p>
<p>Ron solidified this tyranny of thought by redefining the word &#8220;reasonable&#8221; and &#8220;open minded.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only way philosophies can be the source of great evil.</p>
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		By: Mephisto		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mephisto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/starting-sump-operations/#comment-153819&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s not the best way to get your rocks off.]]></description>
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<p>That&#8217;s not the best way to get your rocks off.</p>
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