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		By: Scribe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403894</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scribe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2021 05:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403337&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;.

Glad to see Michael&#039;s keeping up with his redos. He wouldn&#039;t want to piss off COB now would he?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403337">Rip Van Winkle</a>.</p>
<p>Glad to see Michael&#8217;s keeping up with his redos. He wouldn&#8217;t want to piss off COB now would he?</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2021 03:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403718&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

I have the website saved into my browser.  Today is the first time I&#039;ve been able to access in a week.  Odd!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403718">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>I have the website saved into my browser.  Today is the first time I&#8217;ve been able to access in a week.  Odd!</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2021 01:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403611&quot;&gt;Kate&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve had no problem finding and reading Tony&#039;s Underground Bunker, Are you using the correct address?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403611">Kate</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had no problem finding and reading Tony&#8217;s Underground Bunker, Are you using the correct address?</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403555&quot;&gt;Cindy Temps&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s him alright :)]]></description>
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<p>That&#8217;s him alright 🙂</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 11:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why has Tony Ortega’s website disappeared? Anything sinister?]]></description>
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		By: Cindy Temps		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 03:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403421&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Didn&#039;t Michael Feshback also have back taxes and were facing jail if they didn&#039;t pay up or make a payment plan?  Or was some other big OL in the church?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403421">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Michael Feshback also have back taxes and were facing jail if they didn&#8217;t pay up or make a payment plan?  Or was some other big OL in the church?</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 03:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403382&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Jere, so true.  SO person and ARC don&#039;t even go in the same sentence.  Same with any SO member discussing expansion.  You called it!]]></description>
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<p>Jere, so true.  SO person and ARC don&#8217;t even go in the same sentence.  Same with any SO member discussing expansion.  You called it!</p>
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		By: Pull your pants up, then shoot!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pull your pants up, then shoot!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403477&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

It really is over the top.  LOL]]></description>
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<p>It really is over the top.  LOL</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think of Scientology as sort of a Dunning-Kruger faith, a connection I see Jere has already made earlier.  Dianetics&#039; appeal was to DIY amateurism, rejecting expertise and authority - and of course actual science, and the rigor of proper research rather than gleeful anecdotalism - while Scientology has built on and expanded that.

&quot;The Dunning–Kruger effect is a hypothetical* cognitive bias stating that people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability.

As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the bias results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, &quot;the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others&quot;.[1] It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from people&#039;s inability to recognize their lack of ability. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, people cannot objectively evaluate their level of competence.&quot;
&#062; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

This, referenced above, also describes the scientological worldview and scientologists&#039; self-perception:

&quot;In the field of social psychology, illusory superiority is a condition of cognitive bias wherein a person overestimates their own qualities and abilities, in relation to the same qualities and abilities of other people. Illusory superiority is one of many positive illusions, relating to the self, that are evident in the study of intelligence, the effective performance of tasks and tests, and the possession of desirable personal characteristics and personality traits.&quot;
&#062; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority

And all too typically for scientologists, it seems that the author Lewis is projecting, falling into exactly what he is accusing others of, and lacking (or having thought-stopped) the self-awareness to recognize it.


* while some of the details of Dunning &#038; Kruger&#039;s description and classification of a cognitive bias are under question, the basic underlying concept is not, for example:

&quot; So the bias is definitively not that incompetent people think they’re better than competent people. Rather, it’s that incompetent people think they’re much better than they actually are. But they typically still don’t think they’re quite as good as people who, you know, actually are good.&quot;

That still allows for atypical outliers, and I&#039;d argue that Hubbard and his followers often fall into being at the extreme of thinking they’re as good as, or even better than, people who are actually are good and who are have true expertise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of Scientology as sort of a Dunning-Kruger faith, a connection I see Jere has already made earlier.  Dianetics&#8217; appeal was to DIY amateurism, rejecting expertise and authority &#8211; and of course actual science, and the rigor of proper research rather than gleeful anecdotalism &#8211; while Scientology has built on and expanded that.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Dunning–Kruger effect is a hypothetical* cognitive bias stating that people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability.</p>
<p>As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the bias results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, &#8220;the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others&#8221;.[1] It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from people&#8217;s inability to recognize their lack of ability. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, people cannot objectively evaluate their level of competence.&#8221;<br />
&gt; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</a></p>
<p>This, referenced above, also describes the scientological worldview and scientologists&#8217; self-perception:</p>
<p>&#8220;In the field of social psychology, illusory superiority is a condition of cognitive bias wherein a person overestimates their own qualities and abilities, in relation to the same qualities and abilities of other people. Illusory superiority is one of many positive illusions, relating to the self, that are evident in the study of intelligence, the effective performance of tasks and tests, and the possession of desirable personal characteristics and personality traits.&#8221;<br />
&gt; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority</a></p>
<p>And all too typically for scientologists, it seems that the author Lewis is projecting, falling into exactly what he is accusing others of, and lacking (or having thought-stopped) the self-awareness to recognize it.</p>
<p>* while some of the details of Dunning &amp; Kruger&#8217;s description and classification of a cognitive bias are under question, the basic underlying concept is not, for example:</p>
<p>&#8221; So the bias is definitively not that incompetent people think they’re better than competent people. Rather, it’s that incompetent people think they’re much better than they actually are. But they typically still don’t think they’re quite as good as people who, you know, actually are good.&#8221;</p>
<p>That still allows for atypical outliers, and I&#8217;d argue that Hubbard and his followers often fall into being at the extreme of thinking they’re as good as, or even better than, people who are actually are good and who are have true expertise.</p>
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		By: Kyle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403416&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

To paraphrase the great and wise sage, Rich Evans : &quot;Stupid people always overestimate their importance and capabilities, because they are too stupid to critically think about themselves.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stupidity-is-inherent-in-scientology/#comment-403416">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>To paraphrase the great and wise sage, Rich Evans : &#8220;Stupid people always overestimate their importance and capabilities, because they are too stupid to critically think about themselves.&#8221;</p>
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