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	Comments on: &#8220;Successful Selling&#8221; by L. Ron Hubbard	</title>
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		By: Lili R		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2023 17:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/successful-selling-by-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-507839&quot;&gt;Mat Pesch&lt;/a&gt;.

Mat, I am late to reply, but wow what you have written means a whole lot to me. I would love to see the full write-up published. The part you&#039;ve already shared caused chills in my body.
I discovered years after I joined the cult that a &#039;friend&#039; of mine in the cult had been assigned to be my &#039;Buddy.&#039; Only because I was so indoctrinated to behave and help, and to always apply the &#039;Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of Dynamics to benefit scientology,&#039; bullshit did I manage to climb over the steaming pile of cognitive dissonance this reveal caused. They knew I was upset and I became an &#039;Ethics Particle.&#039; To get off the Ethics hamster wheel I was manipulated into be a new person&#039;s Buddy.
The fact that some of my FLAG &#039;friends&#039; could have been planted by the Reg is all too real. None of those &#039;friends&#039; stayed in touch. 
I keep finding out more dirty, underhanded, and disgusting actions taken by the cult to get me to charge more on credit cards for their underwhelming &#039;services.&#039;
Thank you for this. I look forward to more freeing truths. And maybe a book?]]></description>
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<p>Mat, I am late to reply, but wow what you have written means a whole lot to me. I would love to see the full write-up published. The part you&#8217;ve already shared caused chills in my body.<br />
I discovered years after I joined the cult that a &#8216;friend&#8217; of mine in the cult had been assigned to be my &#8216;Buddy.&#8217; Only because I was so indoctrinated to behave and help, and to always apply the &#8216;Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of Dynamics to benefit scientology,&#8217; bullshit did I manage to climb over the steaming pile of cognitive dissonance this reveal caused. They knew I was upset and I became an &#8216;Ethics Particle.&#8217; To get off the Ethics hamster wheel I was manipulated into be a new person&#8217;s Buddy.<br />
The fact that some of my FLAG &#8216;friends&#8217; could have been planted by the Reg is all too real. None of those &#8216;friends&#8217; stayed in touch.<br />
I keep finding out more dirty, underhanded, and disgusting actions taken by the cult to get me to charge more on credit cards for their underwhelming &#8216;services.&#8217;<br />
Thank you for this. I look forward to more freeing truths. And maybe a book?</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2022 22:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/successful-selling-by-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-507831&quot;&gt;Dead Man Walking Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds right.]]></description>
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<p>Sounds right.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2022 21:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/successful-selling-by-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-507738&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Conman Cardone&quot;.   Good one, Cindy :)]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;Conman Cardone&#8221;.   Good one, Cindy 🙂</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 05:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Hubbard sold, as much as he cashed in on social trends like the baby boomer counter-culture movement, that provided his and others&#039; groups huge numbers of &quot;seekers&quot; to profit off of and exploit - though I don&#039;t think he understood how much that sort of phenomenon was really driving things.  But when that started to wane, he was left with resorting to using an outsider adept at high-pressure car sales type techniques, to try to keep things going through a new bit of customer &quot;tech&quot; (though it also appears he often relied on largely unattributed insiders for much of the rest of the &quot;tech&quot;).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Hubbard sold, as much as he cashed in on social trends like the baby boomer counter-culture movement, that provided his and others&#8217; groups huge numbers of &#8220;seekers&#8221; to profit off of and exploit &#8211; though I don&#8217;t think he understood how much that sort of phenomenon was really driving things.  But when that started to wane, he was left with resorting to using an outsider adept at high-pressure car sales type techniques, to try to keep things going through a new bit of customer &#8220;tech&#8221; (though it also appears he often relied on largely unattributed insiders for much of the rest of the &#8220;tech&#8221;).</p>
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		By: Mat Pesch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 01:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/successful-selling-by-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-507790&quot;&gt;Lili R&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep.  Every staff member at Flag would be put through that &quot;drill&quot;.   Every staff member was expected to help on the income lines any way they could.  God help any staff member that did anything to cut across or endanger an &quot;income cycle&quot;.  The entire base was driven by ONE common purpose and that was to MAKE MONEY.  If someone had a &quot;Big Win&quot; as a result of their training or auditing, great, it creates more opportunity to get more money from them.  Money!  Money!  There are lots of LRH quotes regarding make money, use the money to make more money, squeeze every Quarter until the eagle screams, the answer to your problem kiddies is to make more money,....]]></description>
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<p>Yep.  Every staff member at Flag would be put through that &#8220;drill&#8221;.   Every staff member was expected to help on the income lines any way they could.  God help any staff member that did anything to cut across or endanger an &#8220;income cycle&#8221;.  The entire base was driven by ONE common purpose and that was to MAKE MONEY.  If someone had a &#8220;Big Win&#8221; as a result of their training or auditing, great, it creates more opportunity to get more money from them.  Money!  Money!  There are lots of LRH quotes regarding make money, use the money to make more money, squeeze every Quarter until the eagle screams, the answer to your problem kiddies is to make more money,&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Mat Pesch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mat Pesch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 01:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/successful-selling-by-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-507789&quot;&gt;Lili R&lt;/a&gt;.

That is the tiniest tip of the iceberg.  I once wrote up in detail the entirety of the whole money grabbing operation.   How intel is gathered on the financial and personal data on a public before they arrive.  The weekly meeting to assign a registrar to the upcoming new arrivals.  How the persons Technical Estimate is overseen, if not completely written by the reg based on the persons ability to pay.  How the Auditors feed confidential session information, to the registrars, that they think will help to get more money from the person.  In exchange for the information the registrars give awards to the auditors.  It is called a Bird Dog Award.  Maybe a special meal, protein shake, etc.  Even maids, drivers, etc can earn an award if they come up with valuable intel.   Public are sent to befriend a person at the direction of the reg.  Maybe they sit together in the waiting area or sit together at a meal so as to help &quot;direct&quot; a person toward doing a specific service like their L&#039;s.  Registrars from the various units exchange and trade information to help each other get more money out of a person.  Tips on their buttons and things that have helped get them to pay in the past.  The whole thing is very involved and way more intricate and sophisticated then one would imagine.  When my wife gets home in a couple of days I will ask her help on finding the write up.   If we locate it I&#039;ll repost it in the near future.   When I was the Dissem Sec FSO, on an average, every New Major Service Arrival to Flag paid an additional $50,000 before they left.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/successful-selling-by-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-507789">Lili R</a>.</p>
<p>That is the tiniest tip of the iceberg.  I once wrote up in detail the entirety of the whole money grabbing operation.   How intel is gathered on the financial and personal data on a public before they arrive.  The weekly meeting to assign a registrar to the upcoming new arrivals.  How the persons Technical Estimate is overseen, if not completely written by the reg based on the persons ability to pay.  How the Auditors feed confidential session information, to the registrars, that they think will help to get more money from the person.  In exchange for the information the registrars give awards to the auditors.  It is called a Bird Dog Award.  Maybe a special meal, protein shake, etc.  Even maids, drivers, etc can earn an award if they come up with valuable intel.   Public are sent to befriend a person at the direction of the reg.  Maybe they sit together in the waiting area or sit together at a meal so as to help &#8220;direct&#8221; a person toward doing a specific service like their L&#8217;s.  Registrars from the various units exchange and trade information to help each other get more money out of a person.  Tips on their buttons and things that have helped get them to pay in the past.  The whole thing is very involved and way more intricate and sophisticated then one would imagine.  When my wife gets home in a couple of days I will ask her help on finding the write up.   If we locate it I&#8217;ll repost it in the near future.   When I was the Dissem Sec FSO, on an average, every New Major Service Arrival to Flag paid an additional $50,000 before they left.</p>
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		By: Mat Pesch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 01:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/successful-selling-by-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-507819&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

E Bay should work fine.]]></description>
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<p>E Bay should work fine.</p>
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		By: Dead Man Walking Bill Straass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Man Walking Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 23:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/successful-selling-by-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-507796&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes. Chuck.
     Trey did his internships on the Apollo in 71 when LRH was there. And there is no IAS or any other robbers there. If the auditing did not do you much good than you simply do not come back. There is no Call-In or MAAs to fuck with you.]]></description>
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<p>Yes. Chuck.<br />
     Trey did his internships on the Apollo in 71 when LRH was there. And there is no IAS or any other robbers there. If the auditing did not do you much good than you simply do not come back. There is no Call-In or MAAs to fuck with you.</p>
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		By: Glenn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 22:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/successful-selling-by-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-507783&quot;&gt;PickAnotherID&lt;/a&gt;.

Sure, it seems that that would have an effect but I wish the US government would grow a pair of balls and do something that would truly  be effective.   But, knowing all I know I am not &quot;holding my breath&quot; for that.  

Example,  all the immigration fraud the cult has committed over the last 60 years hasn&#039;t ever brought a single  enforcement action.  Is our government just too chicken shit or too lazy?  I think both and it truly sickens me! And I know the ONLY reason none of the cult&#039;s members who&#039;ve participated in that fraud will come forward is because they will be found guilty of participating in it an any residency or citizenship status they&#039;ve been granted will be rescinded.  

All that said, I truly think if any of them did come forward despite fear of personal suffering  the government would still back off.  Why?  For the same reason they haven&#039;t rescinded the cult&#039;s tax exempt status.  They are little pussies who are more (or only) worried about their own survival.  Hear me!  My decades in government have utterly convinced it is not operating with a public service motive. No it is only interested in serving itself.  

They, much like the cult, cannot be counted on to do right.  

Such self service motivation has come from the very top of the US government.  Richard Nixon&#039;s work against John Lennon and Yoko Ono is a stellar example.  He secretly ordered the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) to institute deportation proceedings against the couple the moment their temporary  US visitor status expired.  They had come to America as tourists but Nixon worried, as it was an election year, they (or John alone) would have a damaging impact on his bid to stay in office. I know this from direct contact with the couple&#039;s attorneys as well as FOI requested documents obtained years later.  

So, my friend. I appreciate your hope and objectivity but hear me;  don&#039;t waste your time or energy.  Governments are &quot;self serving&quot; and we should not count on them for anything whatsoever.  

Now, to try to end this on a positive note.  It is up to us Citizens to demand and get what is right.  We cannot rely on anyone or anything else.  We should never waste our time or energy trying to get the government to do anything.  It,  like even the Russian government is truly and only self serving.  Another fact I can attest to personally.  And a story (facts) for some other time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/successful-selling-by-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-507783">PickAnotherID</a>.</p>
<p>Sure, it seems that that would have an effect but I wish the US government would grow a pair of balls and do something that would truly  be effective.   But, knowing all I know I am not &#8220;holding my breath&#8221; for that.  </p>
<p>Example,  all the immigration fraud the cult has committed over the last 60 years hasn&#8217;t ever brought a single  enforcement action.  Is our government just too chicken shit or too lazy?  I think both and it truly sickens me! And I know the ONLY reason none of the cult&#8217;s members who&#8217;ve participated in that fraud will come forward is because they will be found guilty of participating in it an any residency or citizenship status they&#8217;ve been granted will be rescinded.  </p>
<p>All that said, I truly think if any of them did come forward despite fear of personal suffering  the government would still back off.  Why?  For the same reason they haven&#8217;t rescinded the cult&#8217;s tax exempt status.  They are little pussies who are more (or only) worried about their own survival.  Hear me!  My decades in government have utterly convinced it is not operating with a public service motive. No it is only interested in serving itself.  </p>
<p>They, much like the cult, cannot be counted on to do right.  </p>
<p>Such self service motivation has come from the very top of the US government.  Richard Nixon&#8217;s work against John Lennon and Yoko Ono is a stellar example.  He secretly ordered the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) to institute deportation proceedings against the couple the moment their temporary  US visitor status expired.  They had come to America as tourists but Nixon worried, as it was an election year, they (or John alone) would have a damaging impact on his bid to stay in office. I know this from direct contact with the couple&#8217;s attorneys as well as FOI requested documents obtained years later.  </p>
<p>So, my friend. I appreciate your hope and objectivity but hear me;  don&#8217;t waste your time or energy.  Governments are &#8220;self serving&#8221; and we should not count on them for anything whatsoever.  </p>
<p>Now, to try to end this on a positive note.  It is up to us Citizens to demand and get what is right.  We cannot rely on anyone or anything else.  We should never waste our time or energy trying to get the government to do anything.  It,  like even the Russian government is truly and only self serving.  Another fact I can attest to personally.  And a story (facts) for some other time.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 21:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/successful-selling-by-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-507797&quot;&gt;Mat Pesch&lt;/a&gt;.

Mat, nice to hear.  Should I sell them on Ebay or something else?]]></description>
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<p>Mat, nice to hear.  Should I sell them on Ebay or something else?</p>
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