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		By: Mary Snow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 19:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373893&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Jere, you wrote: &quot;...it DID seem to indicate areas of emotional charge just below the PC’s conscious level.&quot;

Confirmation Bias on the part of both the auditor and the subject explains this.

The subject and auditor know the purpose of the audit and work to confirm its validity because they&#039;re both invested in scientology. 

Heck, if the subject is paying money for the audit, they&#039;re invested in it &quot;working.&quot; So they provide information to confirm it&#039;s &quot;working.&quot;

It just proves the power of suggestion when working with someone motivated or invested in the process.

Let&#039;s face it. Who among us doesn&#039;t harbor some past trauma real or imagined.*

I&#039;ve seen it happen with cold reader psychics suggesting they &quot;see&quot; an &quot;energy&quot; around the subject and the subject is quick to confirm it with details about this or that.

 But the psychic never came up with those details yet gets credit for accuracy.

The e-meter indicates &quot;something&quot; is there. And the scientologist confirms it with details because he/she wants to &quot;go clear.&quot;

*On imagined traumas: My younger brother was convinced that when he was around 3 years old my mom took him to work with her and made him sit on a bench as she typed all day in her secretary job. He was very angry about it and well into his 30s when he confronted mom. 

Problem is: she was a stay at home mom till we were in high school. Add to this she didn&#039;t know how to type and never had a secretary job.

It took me, mom and a couple of aunts to convince him it wasn&#039;t true. Yet he was angry at her all of those years for an imagined trauma. Possibly a bad dream he&#039;d had? We don&#039;t know. But false memories are a proven phenomenon. 

How many people holding the e-meter cans were recalling false memories, I wonder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373893">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Jere, you wrote: &#8220;&#8230;it DID seem to indicate areas of emotional charge just below the PC’s conscious level.&#8221;</p>
<p>Confirmation Bias on the part of both the auditor and the subject explains this.</p>
<p>The subject and auditor know the purpose of the audit and work to confirm its validity because they&#8217;re both invested in scientology. </p>
<p>Heck, if the subject is paying money for the audit, they&#8217;re invested in it &#8220;working.&#8221; So they provide information to confirm it&#8217;s &#8220;working.&#8221;</p>
<p>It just proves the power of suggestion when working with someone motivated or invested in the process.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it. Who among us doesn&#8217;t harbor some past trauma real or imagined.*</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen it happen with cold reader psychics suggesting they &#8220;see&#8221; an &#8220;energy&#8221; around the subject and the subject is quick to confirm it with details about this or that.</p>
<p> But the psychic never came up with those details yet gets credit for accuracy.</p>
<p>The e-meter indicates &#8220;something&#8221; is there. And the scientologist confirms it with details because he/she wants to &#8220;go clear.&#8221;</p>
<p>*On imagined traumas: My younger brother was convinced that when he was around 3 years old my mom took him to work with her and made him sit on a bench as she typed all day in her secretary job. He was very angry about it and well into his 30s when he confronted mom. </p>
<p>Problem is: she was a stay at home mom till we were in high school. Add to this she didn&#8217;t know how to type and never had a secretary job.</p>
<p>It took me, mom and a couple of aunts to convince him it wasn&#8217;t true. Yet he was angry at her all of those years for an imagined trauma. Possibly a bad dream he&#8217;d had? We don&#8217;t know. But false memories are a proven phenomenon. </p>
<p>How many people holding the e-meter cans were recalling false memories, I wonder.</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 14:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373858&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Hopefully she will have great family &#038; friends who will talk some sense into her.  Sadly Katie Holmes was an immature teen ager head over heels in love with T.C. since her young teen years &#038; was besotted with him.  I am sure her parents tried to talk her out of having any relationship with TC,  but teens don&#039;t listen to their parents because the &quot;teen knows better&quot;.

Often times people have to learn for themselves.....after all it&#039;s been said &quot;life IS a lesson&quot;. Katie was lucky to have supportive parents who aided her in getting way from the clutches of COS &#038; TC. Seems to me she still does not have good judgment based upon her last few love affairs in choosing the wrong man to become involved with.

Suri at least has been freed from any attachment to COS...however as is often the case, as she matures she MIGHT want to chance &quot;getting to know her dad &#038; COS&quot;....as she might blame her mom for &quot;keeping her away from her father TC&quot;.  

At least at 38 Atwell is an ADULT, still many years younger than TC, she&#039;s not a lovesick  teen ager &#038; let&#039;s face it....TC has lost some of  his mega star sex appeal &#038; in plain speaking language he just ain&#039;t that steamy hot anymore as now he&#039;s in middle age.

Ahhhh....getting your name out there dating one of the former mega super stars but now he&#039;s only a...aaaaa.....aaaa........what&#039;s it called....a &quot;big being...super being...supreme grand poobah&quot;.............Ah what the HELL forget it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373858">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Hopefully she will have great family &amp; friends who will talk some sense into her.  Sadly Katie Holmes was an immature teen ager head over heels in love with T.C. since her young teen years &amp; was besotted with him.  I am sure her parents tried to talk her out of having any relationship with TC,  but teens don&#8217;t listen to their parents because the &#8220;teen knows better&#8221;.</p>
<p>Often times people have to learn for themselves&#8230;..after all it&#8217;s been said &#8220;life IS a lesson&#8221;. Katie was lucky to have supportive parents who aided her in getting way from the clutches of COS &amp; TC. Seems to me she still does not have good judgment based upon her last few love affairs in choosing the wrong man to become involved with.</p>
<p>Suri at least has been freed from any attachment to COS&#8230;however as is often the case, as she matures she MIGHT want to chance &#8220;getting to know her dad &amp; COS&#8221;&#8230;.as she might blame her mom for &#8220;keeping her away from her father TC&#8221;.  </p>
<p>At least at 38 Atwell is an ADULT, still many years younger than TC, she&#8217;s not a lovesick  teen ager &amp; let&#8217;s face it&#8230;.TC has lost some of  his mega star sex appeal &amp; in plain speaking language he just ain&#8217;t that steamy hot anymore as now he&#8217;s in middle age.</p>
<p>Ahhhh&#8230;.getting your name out there dating one of the former mega super stars but now he&#8217;s only a&#8230;aaaaa&#8230;..aaaa&#8230;&#8230;..what&#8217;s it called&#8230;.a &#8220;big being&#8230;super being&#8230;supreme grand poobah&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Ah what the HELL forget it.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 13:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373821&quot;&gt;Bruce Ploetz&lt;/a&gt;.

It doesn&#039;t matter that the &quot;incidents&quot; &#039;uncovered&#039; were real events or some story they read or movie they watched. OR, more regularly, they were made-up stories thrown out just to give an answer the auditor would accept.  I &lt;b&gt;loved&lt;/b&gt; how the e-meter seemed to work in session, but there&#039;s no way physical movements, even unconscious ones, would have gotten past my attention. Unluckily, I have to report that even though I can&#039;t explain how; nor can anyone else to my satisfaction, it DID seem to indicate areas of emotional charge just below the PC&#039;s conscious level. &#039;Course, that was 40+ years ago and I can&#039;t say my memory is flawless. I do remember requesting that a PC not move around since that could obscure real reads.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373821">Bruce Ploetz</a>.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter that the &#8220;incidents&#8221; &#8216;uncovered&#8217; were real events or some story they read or movie they watched. OR, more regularly, they were made-up stories thrown out just to give an answer the auditor would accept.  I <b>loved</b> how the e-meter seemed to work in session, but there&#8217;s no way physical movements, even unconscious ones, would have gotten past my attention. Unluckily, I have to report that even though I can&#8217;t explain how; nor can anyone else to my satisfaction, it DID seem to indicate areas of emotional charge just below the PC&#8217;s conscious level. &#8216;Course, that was 40+ years ago and I can&#8217;t say my memory is flawless. I do remember requesting that a PC not move around since that could obscure real reads.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 13:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOVE that garage sale sign.  SO appropriate today. &quot;Our crap can be YOUR crap&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVE that garage sale sign.  SO appropriate today. &#8220;Our crap can be YOUR crap&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 13:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373838&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

I just realized while rereading:   the OECs are now 12 volumes and cost $1,300+?   Heck, I never would have been able to afford them 40+ years ago on sea org pay.  I&#039;m astounded that I was able to afford the original 8 volumes. I Forget HOW I did that. Likely a tax refund I got from the previous year&#039;s employment&lt;b&gt;. Danged&lt;/b&gt;, the regges and bookstore guys know how to guilt a guy into parting with every last penny.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373838">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>I just realized while rereading:   the OECs are now 12 volumes and cost $1,300+?   Heck, I never would have been able to afford them 40+ years ago on sea org pay.  I&#8217;m astounded that I was able to afford the original 8 volumes. I Forget HOW I did that. Likely a tax refund I got from the previous year&#8217;s employment<b>. Danged</b>, the regges and bookstore guys know how to guilt a guy into parting with every last penny.</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 07:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373704&quot;&gt;Bruce Ploetz&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Bruce, your comments today have been helpful.
I&#039;ve been taking free coursera courses for 4 years now.
This last year I&#039;ve been studying every YouTube, NPR, PBS, podcast interviews about neurology.   I absolutly love it.
Anyone with a 45$ prepaid phone can get 25G data a month along with the unlimited everything else.
It took a while to switch from PC and laptop to just my cheap phone but I truly wake up everyday grateful to be following my dreams and have everything I need.  Education is key and after 40 years of LRHs BS if anything is being sold or it cost for anything more then the 40$ certificate - I&#039;m off to someone else <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373704">Bruce Ploetz</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Bruce, your comments today have been helpful.<br />
I&#8217;ve been taking free coursera courses for 4 years now.<br />
This last year I&#8217;ve been studying every YouTube, NPR, PBS, podcast interviews about neurology.   I absolutly love it.<br />
Anyone with a 45$ prepaid phone can get 25G data a month along with the unlimited everything else.<br />
It took a while to switch from PC and laptop to just my cheap phone but I truly wake up everyday grateful to be following my dreams and have everything I need.  Education is key and after 40 years of LRHs BS if anything is being sold or it cost for anything more then the 40$ certificate &#8211; I&#8217;m off to someone else 😊</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 04:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373679&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Flubbards gifts(turds) to humankind!
Get yours today, supplies are…collecting dust…&quot;

 AND the DUST is INCREASING their value
UP to ...
 &lt;B&gt;ZERO!&lt;/B&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373679">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Flubbards gifts(turds) to humankind!<br />
Get yours today, supplies are…collecting dust…&#8221;</p>
<p> AND the DUST is INCREASING their value<br />
UP to &#8230;<br />
 <b>ZERO!</b></p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 04:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373683&quot;&gt;ISNOINews&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, ISNOINews.  I didn&#039;t realize I needed a light comedy tonight.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f924.png" alt="🤤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I didn&#039;t realize it was 1:39 long, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373683">ISNOINews</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, ISNOINews.  I didn&#8217;t realize I needed a light comedy tonight.🤤 I didn&#8217;t realize it was 1:39 long, though.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 04:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373689&quot;&gt;Balletlady&lt;/a&gt;.

I pity poor Hayley Atwell.  For a few days or maybe months, she&#039;ll be courted by the smoothest sociopath going.  Afterwards will be years and tears of terror and other unpleasantries as he/they ruin her &lt;B&gt;UTTERLY&lt;/B&gt; 
No one deserves experiencing such depravity]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373689">Balletlady</a>.</p>
<p>I pity poor Hayley Atwell.  For a few days or maybe months, she&#8217;ll be courted by the smoothest sociopath going.  Afterwards will be years and tears of terror and other unpleasantries as he/they ruin her <b>UTTERLY</b><br />
No one deserves experiencing such depravity</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 02:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373838&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

As this cult edges closer to its inevitable destruction, the people who work under DM will grow increasingly desperate to survive. Ultimately, we should expect them to try the most crazy stuff imaginable.

The so-called Pope would not really care. He would be busy figuring out how to transfer the bulk of the money to off shore banks and to buy an island somewhere where he can hire armed security to protect himself from any invaders. The game seems like it is coming to a close and this is mostly the result of Mike and Leah. So thank you to Mike and Leah.

By the way, these are just my opinions and my feelings and may very well be wrong. It&#039;s just the &quot;smell&quot; that leads me to believe the end is near for these crazies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/such-a-deal/#comment-373838">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>As this cult edges closer to its inevitable destruction, the people who work under DM will grow increasingly desperate to survive. Ultimately, we should expect them to try the most crazy stuff imaginable.</p>
<p>The so-called Pope would not really care. He would be busy figuring out how to transfer the bulk of the money to off shore banks and to buy an island somewhere where he can hire armed security to protect himself from any invaders. The game seems like it is coming to a close and this is mostly the result of Mike and Leah. So thank you to Mike and Leah.</p>
<p>By the way, these are just my opinions and my feelings and may very well be wrong. It&#8217;s just the &#8220;smell&#8221; that leads me to believe the end is near for these crazies.</p>
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