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		By: otviii2late		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202912</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2017 07:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s always a wonder to me that the same people they are begging to be in videos to create false impressions of booming orgs are also the same intended audience for these faked videos. I know that seeing a faked event video about how my local org was booming with images filled with shipped-in people that I knew was a lie is one of the things that started my journey out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always a wonder to me that the same people they are begging to be in videos to create false impressions of booming orgs are also the same intended audience for these faked videos. I know that seeing a faked event video about how my local org was booming with images filled with shipped-in people that I knew was a lie is one of the things that started my journey out.</p>
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		By: Lance Caldwell		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202867</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lance Caldwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 23:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202598&quot;&gt;Rebecca N&lt;/a&gt;.

I observed the same thing Rebecca, and even went inside, and nobody except the receptionist was in sight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202598">Rebecca N</a>.</p>
<p>I observed the same thing Rebecca, and even went inside, and nobody except the receptionist was in sight.</p>
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		By: exccla		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t get over the number of empy buildings there are. It&#039;s music to my heart. I think dm does it as an investment  besides trying to hide there&#039;s no one coming in now. I congratulate everyone on getting danny m. off of the Netfix show.We are seeing so many changes and I think that Mike and Leah were such a marvelous team to do their show. Thank you to everyone here for your successful efforts You all deserve a big hug! P.S. danny has the same initials as the asshole dm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t get over the number of empy buildings there are. It&#8217;s music to my heart. I think dm does it as an investment  besides trying to hide there&#8217;s no one coming in now. I congratulate everyone on getting danny m. off of the Netfix show.We are seeing so many changes and I think that Mike and Leah were such a marvelous team to do their show. Thank you to everyone here for your successful efforts You all deserve a big hug! P.S. danny has the same initials as the asshole dm.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202822</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202614&quot;&gt;PickAnotherID&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know that they&#039;re necessarily

At one point earlier this year, when they apparently thought they were going to have material to broadcast before long, they reserved a cable channel in some markets.  They have also referred to SuMP reaching &quot;billions&quot; of people, which I think has to mean that have in mind doing something like webcasting.

I think that Miscavige and his inner circle must have thought that they could put together some Hubbard biopics, and 700 Club style shows of their own, and come up with something viable by putting dedicated Sea Org staff and Scientology &quot;tech&quot; to work.  I looked up CBN&#039;s budget, and it&#039;s $200 million per year - I think Scientology just had no clue how complex and expensive it is to actually produce and broadcast a full schedule of programming, that&#039;s not laughably bad by today&#039;s standards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202614">PickAnotherID</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that they&#8217;re necessarily</p>
<p>At one point earlier this year, when they apparently thought they were going to have material to broadcast before long, they reserved a cable channel in some markets.  They have also referred to SuMP reaching &#8220;billions&#8221; of people, which I think has to mean that have in mind doing something like webcasting.</p>
<p>I think that Miscavige and his inner circle must have thought that they could put together some Hubbard biopics, and 700 Club style shows of their own, and come up with something viable by putting dedicated Sea Org staff and Scientology &#8220;tech&#8221; to work.  I looked up CBN&#8217;s budget, and it&#8217;s $200 million per year &#8211; I think Scientology just had no clue how complex and expensive it is to actually produce and broadcast a full schedule of programming, that&#8217;s not laughably bad by today&#8217;s standards.</p>
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		By: harry plopper		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202737</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 12:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202658&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Downing tools simply means stopping, could be for a strike or even just for smoko (taking a break) .. thats my experience of the word anyway ?

I just think its refreshing seeing scientology chase its tail ... for so long they&#039;ve had the ascendency over those who tried to expose their practices, now they just don&#039;t ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202658">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Downing tools simply means stopping, could be for a strike or even just for smoko (taking a break) .. thats my experience of the word anyway ?</p>
<p>I just think its refreshing seeing scientology chase its tail &#8230; for so long they&#8217;ve had the ascendency over those who tried to expose their practices, now they just don&#8217;t ?</p>
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		By: Carlene Brooks		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202733</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlene Brooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 09:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[30 plus! So much for clearing the planet. At this rate, they may be able to clear the local supermarket in about twenty years!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30 plus! So much for clearing the planet. At this rate, they may be able to clear the local supermarket in about twenty years!</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202727</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 06:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202623&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I think they&#039;re right...

&quot;Brag&quot; doesn&#039;t get across the sheer lack of reality or the wilful ignorance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202623">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>I think they&#8217;re right&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Brag&#8221; doesn&#8217;t get across the sheer lack of reality or the wilful ignorance.</p>
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		By: IDBirder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202725</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 06:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202660&quot;&gt;Pizza Driver&lt;/a&gt;.

I, too, thought that was odd in an official document.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202660">Pizza Driver</a>.</p>
<p>I, too, thought that was odd in an official document.</p>
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		By: Theresa Laster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 05:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I personally know people who have left the church but, because of disconnection fears, do  so secretly. Often they are badgered or threatened to come back into their local org. Most people just say they&#039;ll be coming in really soon but somehow never make. Some of these people have had mental breakdowns from the flagrant North Korean style confessionals and have no intention of going back into the cherch. Ever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally know people who have left the church but, because of disconnection fears, do  so secretly. Often they are badgered or threatened to come back into their local org. Most people just say they&#8217;ll be coming in really soon but somehow never make. Some of these people have had mental breakdowns from the flagrant North Korean style confessionals and have no intention of going back into the cherch. Ever.</p>
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		By: Spike73		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202703</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spike73]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 04:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202665&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

There&#039;s a song in that, OSD ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sump-and-valley-fail/#comment-202665">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a song in that, OSD &#8230;</p>
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