well, from what I’ve read, a lot of people completing OT8 had the WTF cognition and left. But you’re likely right about those who remain.

gorillavee, i think the whales are mostly dead-enders whose belief and commitment can’t be shaken by reality. though it’s possible that over time Scientology will lose just enough of them that the balance of its finances will start to tip – but it still has vast reserves to prop it up.

and i don’t think we can discount the possiblity that many of the people still in, possibly including all the way up to the top, are deluded in a way that is hard to conceive of – bordering on insanity, really. i’ve noticed that scammers and cult leaders often have many of the traits of gamblers, maintaining blindered optimism and a belief that they’re either winning or just about to strike it big, even when the truth is that they’re going bust – and they never plan for that latter eventuality, like having money stashed and a place to escape to.

PIE FACE AWARD 100%

Where is your wife – PIE FACE

Do you torcher your executives _PIE FACE

Can’t be served – PIE FACE

Can’t be interviewed PIE FACE LIE, LIE, Lie – PIE FACE – PIE FACE – PIE FACE

https://tonyortega.org/2019/02/06/wednesday/

These awards, some from the same company as the dotCOMMs, are all bought. I think that with these awards if you pay the fee you win an award. There are no losers. They’ll give you some kind of award. It’s exactly like the fake statuses in Sci Inc.

You have to remember fans that our illustrious Dear Leader had a fake Emmy MADE for himself when Ted Koppel won for the Nightline series where he buried Miscavige. Basically all he had to do was let Dave talk and talk and talk…he buried himself. I wonder if DM still has that fake Emmy…or if he’s destroyed it or maybe beat someone with it…who knows?

Hubbard a leader in a historical context? Please. Hubbard will never register a blip in any history book ever published. I’m forever comfortable that I’ll never be in a position to defend Hubbard on anything, any time, anywhere. I’ll leave that demented narrative to the Freezoners.

Very nice Scribe.

There are so many words that rhyme with SUMP and that can be used in so many potentially great poems. Words like: dump, chump, trump, bump, hump, jump, lump, rump, sump, pump.

Those are just a few and there are so many more. I can’t recall hardly any other word that has so many other rhyming words. I think a great piece of rhyming poetry is currently on the tip of someone’s tongue and I would love to see them create that.

If anyone will do it, I would bet it will be Scribe.

Chris Shugart –

I think one of the two points Joe made were pretty solid: “leader” is a neutral term that could be applied to heroes and villains. After all, both Abraham Lincoln and Jefferson Davis were leaders even though they were opposed. I would consider Leah Remini a leader in the movement to expose Scientology.

On the other, Hubbard was not always wrong. After all, he needed some philosophical meat as bait. Some of his concepts make sense, and some are accurate but are based on evil premises like the whole Bolivar thing. I personally like seeing how the Co$ walks all over certain things Hubbard said – nothing like condemning them with their own scripture.

This fake-i-ness reminds me of a critical short film that showed a young woman struggling to get by as staff at a CoS org. Her father wants her to leave, she still is trying to study Hubbard.

The chief of that apparently dying org is in need of some success. With no advance notice he announces to his group members and to the young woman that she has reached the state of Clear. He then announces a party in her honor, and during it he ostentatiously attaches a fancy Scientology “Clear” bracelet around her wrist, to much applause from the party attendees.
The lady is quite confused and a bit embarrassed, partly because she thought she was far from the state of Clear, and partly for being the center of undeserved attention.

After the guests leave, the camera shows her staring at the precious-metal Clear bracelet on her wrist. The org chief officer comes up behind her silently, quickly removes the Clear bracelet from her wrist, and puts it back into its presentation case. He says, in a chastising voice, “We don’t just give those bracelets away. They cost over a hundred dollars, you know.”

Stunned, the woman leaves the building, wondering if her decision to leave or stay in Scientology has been made for her…

If it is really true that he believes he is deserving of respect, I would find that to mean he is truly delusional and that might just be one of the primary causes of his impending downfall. I check the news and I check this site daily in the hope that his downfall will be coming soon.