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		By: Beth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2019 03:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241543&quot;&gt;Ann Davis&lt;/a&gt;.

I would be very afraid to visit Clearwater!  Scientologists should 
STAY out of Florida!!!  Nothing but a sick Cult!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241543">Ann Davis</a>.</p>
<p>I would be very afraid to visit Clearwater!  Scientologists should<br />
STAY out of Florida!!!  Nothing but a sick Cult!!!</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 23:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241836&quot;&gt;Melania&lt;/a&gt;.

Well the things is I don’t really care if I convince you. You have already decided what you believe and anything I say (or Val) apparently won’t change your mind because you believe you have some knowledge we don’t have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241836">Melania</a>.</p>
<p>Well the things is I don’t really care if I convince you. You have already decided what you believe and anything I say (or Val) apparently won’t change your mind because you believe you have some knowledge we don’t have.</p>
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		By: Melania		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 22:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241380&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I have to agree with the original commentator. The simplest explanation is almost always the correct answer. Think Ocam’s Razor. You don’t have to “know how Sea Org works” to fill in the blanks on this one. No adult couple — especially  a couple heading up a sick and twisted cult like this one quite clearly is,  just hauls a 15 year old girl off half way across the country to be their “personal assistant” — without there being a sexual component to the relationship. 

You’ll never convince me that David Miscavige was not involved in a long term sexually assaultive relationship with Valerie when she was a young girl, and that the disappearance of Miscavige’s wife during her time as their personal slave somehow played a major role in whatever was going on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241380">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I have to agree with the original commentator. The simplest explanation is almost always the correct answer. Think Ocam’s Razor. You don’t have to “know how Sea Org works” to fill in the blanks on this one. No adult couple — especially  a couple heading up a sick and twisted cult like this one quite clearly is,  just hauls a 15 year old girl off half way across the country to be their “personal assistant” — without there being a sexual component to the relationship. </p>
<p>You’ll never convince me that David Miscavige was not involved in a long term sexually assaultive relationship with Valerie when she was a young girl, and that the disappearance of Miscavige’s wife during her time as their personal slave somehow played a major role in whatever was going on.</p>
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		By: Heather Azzatello		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 16:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241260&quot;&gt;Mary Kahn&lt;/a&gt;.

Again, such things as false imprisonment, physical abuse, pedophilia, covering up of such crimes....not true of JWs. Research, ask, educate but don’t take the opinion of a few few who slam people who didn’t like, didn’t agree, maybe justified, but could leave on their own free will if wanted. Don’t compare to something vile like Scientology and DM.  Leah and Mike strive to educate and make people aware NOT to make people believe lies like DM. Don’t be sheep and follow others, educate yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241260">Mary Kahn</a>.</p>
<p>Again, such things as false imprisonment, physical abuse, pedophilia, covering up of such crimes&#8230;.not true of JWs. Research, ask, educate but don’t take the opinion of a few few who slam people who didn’t like, didn’t agree, maybe justified, but could leave on their own free will if wanted. Don’t compare to something vile like Scientology and DM.  Leah and Mike strive to educate and make people aware NOT to make people believe lies like DM. Don’t be sheep and follow others, educate yourself.</p>
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		By: Heather		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241273&quot;&gt;ctempster&lt;/a&gt;.

I can only speak regarding JWs personally, but putting them in the same category as this vile cult is ridiculous and totally uneducated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241273">ctempster</a>.</p>
<p>I can only speak regarding JWs personally, but putting them in the same category as this vile cult is ridiculous and totally uneducated.</p>
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		By: Ann Davis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 14:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241726&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;.

Totally!  It&#039;s obvious it wasn&#039;t about that.  I understand that some people might think that,  but if you&#039;ve been paying attention that&#039;s not the case here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241726">Peter</a>.</p>
<p>Totally!  It&#8217;s obvious it wasn&#8217;t about that.  I understand that some people might think that,  but if you&#8217;ve been paying attention that&#8217;s not the case here.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 14:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241613&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Having watched the show through, it was clear to me that had Val been sexually abused, she would  have blared it out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241613">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Having watched the show through, it was clear to me that had Val been sexually abused, she would  have blared it out.</p>
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		By: Todd Rush		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Rush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who was the actor? It seems it would be a nice verifying source.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who was the actor? It seems it would be a nice verifying source.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241640</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 06:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241543&quot;&gt;Ann Davis&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Poor Clearwater&quot; is right. 

 Maybe the cult is hoping that &quot;the face&quot; of SuMP Pump can persuade Jenna Elfman to &quot;turn her back&quot; on Hollywood too.  Of course, Dave would build an Ideal Stable for her horse...

Yeah, the cult is closing ranks, alright.

Urgent Cult Memo:

From:  COB/RTC David Miscavige

To:      Washed Up Scientology Celebs
           CC Int C-Listers
           CC Int D-Listers
           Donkey Punchers (Yeah that&#039;s you, Masterson)
          
YO!:
 Listen up, Slackers!
This is a Call To Arms!
The Enemy Is At The Gate!
As Of NOW you are ALL in LIABILITY
SuMP Is FLOPPING because of YOU
The Stats SUCK and its YOUR FAULT.
Hiding From The Press!
What, Are You -  EMBARRASSED to be Scientologists now?
Don&#039;t answer that.
Just Stop Pretending to be Part of the Group
 Bullshit Seminars At CC Int
Soaking Up the Love Bombing from the CC Int Staff!
None of that is Giving Me Any STATS.
Here&#039;s what&#039;s Needed and Wanted:
Put your Homes On the Market.
Wrap Up Your Pathetic Lives In California
Move To Clearwater
Work For Me For Nothing.
Think about it:
 What ELSE do any of you have Going On?
The Time Is Now.

Much Love,
Dave]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241543">Ann Davis</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Poor Clearwater&#8221; is right. </p>
<p> Maybe the cult is hoping that &#8220;the face&#8221; of SuMP Pump can persuade Jenna Elfman to &#8220;turn her back&#8221; on Hollywood too.  Of course, Dave would build an Ideal Stable for her horse&#8230;</p>
<p>Yeah, the cult is closing ranks, alright.</p>
<p>Urgent Cult Memo:</p>
<p>From:  COB/RTC David Miscavige</p>
<p>To:      Washed Up Scientology Celebs<br />
           CC Int C-Listers<br />
           CC Int D-Listers<br />
           Donkey Punchers (Yeah that&#8217;s you, Masterson)</p>
<p>YO!:<br />
 Listen up, Slackers!<br />
This is a Call To Arms!<br />
The Enemy Is At The Gate!<br />
As Of NOW you are ALL in LIABILITY<br />
SuMP Is FLOPPING because of YOU<br />
The Stats SUCK and its YOUR FAULT.<br />
Hiding From The Press!<br />
What, Are You &#8211;  EMBARRASSED to be Scientologists now?<br />
Don&#8217;t answer that.<br />
Just Stop Pretending to be Part of the Group<br />
 Bullshit Seminars At CC Int<br />
Soaking Up the Love Bombing from the CC Int Staff!<br />
None of that is Giving Me Any STATS.<br />
Here&#8217;s what&#8217;s Needed and Wanted:<br />
Put your Homes On the Market.<br />
Wrap Up Your Pathetic Lives In California<br />
Move To Clearwater<br />
Work For Me For Nothing.<br />
Think about it:<br />
 What ELSE do any of you have Going On?<br />
The Time Is Now.</p>
<p>Much Love,<br />
Dave</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 03:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241612&quot;&gt;Debbie R.&lt;/a&gt;.

I don’t think you really understand how the Sea Org works. But unless you ere in it I don’t think you or anyone else could. I know Val very well and have talked to her a lot about her experiences and was there with her for many years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-aftermath-after-show/#comment-241612">Debbie R.</a>.</p>
<p>I don’t think you really understand how the Sea Org works. But unless you ere in it I don’t think you or anyone else could. I know Val very well and have talked to her a lot about her experiences and was there with her for many years.</p>
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