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		By: safetyguy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511352</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[safetyguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2023 11:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511296&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Just the fact that a &quot;church&quot; would tell you to sign a document like that would set off all sorts of alarms for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511296">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Just the fact that a &#8220;church&#8221; would tell you to sign a document like that would set off all sorts of alarms for me.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511163&quot;&gt;safetyguy&lt;/a&gt;.

safetyguy, I think people trusted they could sign a document from a &quot;church&quot; - yet another way the CofS has exploited if not abused the status it browbeat if not extorted the IRS into granting it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511163">safetyguy</a>.</p>
<p>safetyguy, I think people trusted they could sign a document from a &#8220;church&#8221; &#8211; yet another way the CofS has exploited if not abused the status it browbeat if not extorted the IRS into granting it.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511283</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 18:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511189&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

Ain&#039;t nuttin objectively true about scn.  Even subjectively, the &quot;gains&quot; proved to be all illusory. The &quot;success stories&quot; we were forced to write, if truthful, would have been variants of &quot;finally FINISHED that monster.&quot;
It&#039;s only gotten worse since the Twit<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> seized power. (whatever power exists within the organization) HE got running servants, day and night, gallons of good scotch to guzzle like cheap rotgut, plenty of pricey toys and a few willing punching bags.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511189">otherles</a>.</p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t nuttin objectively true about scn.  Even subjectively, the &#8220;gains&#8221; proved to be all illusory. The &#8220;success stories&#8221; we were forced to write, if truthful, would have been variants of &#8220;finally FINISHED that monster.&#8221;<br />
It&#8217;s only gotten worse since the Twit™ seized power. (whatever power exists within the organization) HE got running servants, day and night, gallons of good scotch to guzzle like cheap rotgut, plenty of pricey toys and a few willing punching bags.</p>
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		By: mwesten		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mwesten]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s an admission that all scientology can possibly provide is a placebo effect.

Scientology can only &quot;work&quot; if one believes that it can.

This is faith...just not an exclusively &quot;religious&quot; one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an admission that all scientology can possibly provide is a placebo effect.</p>
<p>Scientology can only &#8220;work&#8221; if one believes that it can.</p>
<p>This is faith&#8230;just not an exclusively &#8220;religious&#8221; one.</p>
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		By: Geoff Levin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff Levin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 03:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511174&quot;&gt;Mikey&lt;/a&gt;.

Good limerick]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511174">Mikey</a>.</p>
<p>Good limerick</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511222</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 03:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511179&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Imagine if any other religion made newbie followers sign legals docs up the kazoo...&quot;

I am trying to imagine that, and I can&#039;t!  Applied to Scientology, it is what it is.  Applied to any other religion, it is simply beyond the beyond,  unheard of and unmitigated gall!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511179">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Imagine if any other religion made newbie followers sign legals docs up the kazoo&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I am trying to imagine that, and I can&#8217;t!  Applied to Scientology, it is what it is.  Applied to any other religion, it is simply beyond the beyond,  unheard of and unmitigated gall!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 03:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great, great article, Mike.  Every person of political authority in this country should be given a copy.    Wow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, great article, Mike.  Every person of political authority in this country should be given a copy.    Wow.</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511215</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alcoboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 02:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the problem with Dianetics. It claims to cure all ailments by releasing the engrams which are the cause of them. Yet this supposes that all physical ailments are the result of engrams and this is not always the case. Why am I nearsighted? Is it genetics? Is it changes in the shape of my eyeballs over time? Or is it because my mom knocked over my highchair with me in it when I was two while she yelled something at my dad like &quot;You just can&#039;t see clearly!&quot;. The answer is that I don&#039;t know. If I run out the engram and my eyesight gets better, then my myopia was due to an engram. All I am saying is that if people want to use Dianetics to cure their ills they are free to do so but bear in mind that your ills may not be due to engrams and so may not vanish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the problem with Dianetics. It claims to cure all ailments by releasing the engrams which are the cause of them. Yet this supposes that all physical ailments are the result of engrams and this is not always the case. Why am I nearsighted? Is it genetics? Is it changes in the shape of my eyeballs over time? Or is it because my mom knocked over my highchair with me in it when I was two while she yelled something at my dad like &#8220;You just can&#8217;t see clearly!&#8221;. The answer is that I don&#8217;t know. If I run out the engram and my eyesight gets better, then my myopia was due to an engram. All I am saying is that if people want to use Dianetics to cure their ills they are free to do so but bear in mind that your ills may not be due to engrams and so may not vanish.</p>
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		By: Mat Pesch		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511212</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mat Pesch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 01:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511178&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

25 years ago she was seriously ill.  I don&#039;t know how that played out.  As a side note I heard that Harvey Jacques died last October.  He was no longer the Captain FSO at the time.  Apparently he was responsible for making money from the Philippines.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bait-and-switch-of-scientology-promises/#comment-511178">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>25 years ago she was seriously ill.  I don&#8217;t know how that played out.  As a side note I heard that Harvey Jacques died last October.  He was no longer the Captain FSO at the time.  Apparently he was responsible for making money from the Philippines.</p>
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		By: Ruth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ruth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2023 23:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[YES!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES!!!!!</p>
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